Its PAT is reulargly Negative Its new worth is Negative Reserve& Surplus is Negative Huge borrowings of above 2 lac Crore
...to 18000 Cr me iska kya hi hoga? 10 rupaye me bhi iska share kyun lena chahiye? shouldnt the value be negative? isnt the company going to die sooner or later?
How this 18K Crore will take the company out of the quagmire?
It might give some extension to the inevitable - either bust or takeover. Like ventilator support.
41.2. MuStrFc| Link| Bookmark|
April 12, 2024 5:37:20 PM
IPO Guru (3000+ Posts, 2400+ Likes)
@mark bab Until there is something on the opposite side of the liabilities (the negatives), the share has a value. Its not the company at stake now, its the image of Mr. Kumar Birla to not accept bankruptcy / business failure. Plus the govt is adamant to not make telecom a duopoly, so that keeps VI afloat, for now.
@MuStrFc Hope..all this comes true. Anyhow, I am too susceptible abt the issue and would not dare to participate until thr is robust qib demand on the last day. Mr birla is just putting his money from one pocket to another by subscribing through this fpo. Again, I don't know how government can help vi if they are struggling operationally. I myself have ported out 3 Vodafone numbers to Airtel.
41.5. Chhote Lal| Link| Bookmark|
April 13, 2024 11:28:09 AM
IPO Mentor (6100+ Posts, 4500+ Likes)
@mark bab FPO is mere 'doobte ko tinke ka sahara', it will be interesting to witness as to how and for how long V! manages to remain afloat. Quagmire. Learnt a new word today. Thanks 😊
41.7. Rakcyt| Link| Bookmark|
April 13, 2024 5:13:40 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 1300+ Likes)
@mark bab The lamp gives bright light before giving away, so is the case here .
You will find opportunist making hay while sun shines and then disappearing. This will showcase how smart makes money out of trash and how an ordinary man becomes mere spectator in the show of circus . Hard fact in crude language without giving any soft covering.
@UjwalG Thank you Sir for explaining it so well !!
Hypothetical: Suppose this huge FPO gets oversubscribed only after considering bids of lower rates ( say Rs. 10 ) and therefore decides to lower the final subscription/allotment rate to Rs. 10.00.
What will the allotment rate be for bHNI & sHNI who have bid @ 11.00?
What rate will they be allotted? Rs. 10.00 (final rate) or Rs. 11.00 (Bid rate)?
1)Vodafone F&o me sell krna ho to Ban Kiya hua he???
2)Big HNI Tata tech k ipo me 1,57,000 application ai thi ha I know abi Funding band ho gaya he but itna fancy kostak k vajah se Vi k ipo me b 1,60,000 app aa sakti hana
35.1. Smile✍️| Link| Bookmark|
April 12, 2024 6:32:14 PM
IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
No, it's not Bharti hexa effect. After all vi is live trading at 13.15, recently made high of 17+. These valuations are considering present loss. Big issue size, I think this OFS as good opportunity.
@Rajkumar Bhuj - full 10 lakh allotment will be only in case if bHNI is unsubscribed amount wise as well (<1x overall). Looking at the overall scenario and Grey market activities, full 10 lakh allottment may not be possible. I'm expecting between 2-3 lakhs worth of allotment for an application worth 10 lakh.
What @Chalak Lomdi bhai is saying is roughly this: There should be a min Rs 1.5-2 GMP for it to get subscribed, as public mood is not in favour of sell and apply.
I would add here that Bharti Hexa would have been huge opportunity loss for sell and apply applicants.
As I understand, GMP should elevated to1.25 - 2.00 atleast to sail through for Vi People are not in mood to sell in gray after bhartihexa
It's all or nothing , kind of mood
29.7. GJ Eighteen| Link| Bookmark|
April 18, 2024 6:29:52 PM
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@Chalak Lomdi એય હાવ આવું નો હોય...બચારા બીજા નો શું વાંક ?? 😅🤪 તમારું ફેન ફોલોઇંગમાં ધરખમ અસંતોષનું મોજું ફરી વળ્યુ છે લાલા ... તળપદી અને દેશી ભાષા મિક્સ કરીને એમાં ય પાછા એકાદ અક્ષર ઉતાવળ થી ખોટો ઠોકી દયો છો ... 🤪 Chatgpt પણ ડીકોડ ના કરે એમ લખો છો... ચાલતું હશે ??? 😈પણ મને તો ખબર પડી ગઈ હો રાજા...
@Bullrunner bhai, sorry. But then this is not the right platform for pvt or targeted interaction in my opinion. Sorry again, if I'm offending anybody.
@Chalak Lomdi If you don't know hindi/english, then it's alright. Atleast some people who understand Gujarati will get benefited. Otherwise please write in English or hindi. Everyone must be knowing one of these languages. Wrest depends upon you in which language you want to write.
@Chalak Lomdi how can u assume that 1.99 lakh wali 1.5😉 lakh app lagegi... It may cross 3 lakhs all over india.. As GM punters are asking for those who sold in S2 to apply in 1.99 lkh app.. If this happens as per your assumption, I may get more shares 😜🤣👍
Lastest GMP 0.95-1 also there is news that GQG & SBI Mf planning to invest 6000+ crs in this FPO but clarification is not given by GQG and SBI Mf. after this news IDEA shares fully recovered from losses and closed at days high. News link https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/news/gqg-sbi-funds-eye-investments-in-voda-ideas-rs-18000-crore-share-sale-report/articleshow/109243877.cms
Just trying to understand. I am new to this. I have Idea shares at 13 rs price. Is there any benefit for me in applying here ? Can someone guide me pls ?
Thanks in advance..!!
27.1. UjwalG| Link| Bookmark|
April 12, 2024 5:03:45 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
Your avg price would get reduced to 12rs,. The advantage of fpo is that Someone having shares at lower amount can avg up and then sell at listing. Ps- No recommendations on this fpo though. Almost 9000cr will be available on listing, so selling pressure will nullify whatever premium is there.
23.1. Mr. Singh| Link| Bookmark|
April 12, 2024 2:56:10 PM
IPO Guru (1000+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
iska calculation simple hai. listed company ka future sell kero and IPO grey market me 11.60 per buy kero. But dhyan dena hoga ki sell and buy quantity almost match kare. warna either side me khela ho sakta hai.