Sometimes price is managed for FPO.. Do not go by CMP of VI. I remember price was way higher in case of Adani FPO and soon as it was removed price started to fall. Price was even managed then even after the Hidenberg reports. But actually fall after the FPO removed. This it clearly tells that price can be managed
82.1. UjwalG| Link| Bookmark|
April 13, 2024 9:53:56 PM
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Bhai cant compare with Adani fpo, everyone knows that group shares are managed. Here this cant be the case, as public holdings is too high in VI.
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April 13, 2024 1:55:12 PM
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My read is that many sHNI will shift to 14 lots. ie. application of Rs 199,892 rather than going for 15 lots as sHNI bucket is much smaller just Rs 900 crores
@newgen consultancy Don’t you think that vi shares will list at LC and we will not be able to sell shares after FPO shares are credited in our demat for 2-3 days. As far as i know, Same thing have happened in yes bank fpo.
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April 13, 2024 3:19:38 PM
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@🎁 Just For IPO 🔔 As per my estimate it would be 1x as per current situation but if GMP and subject to rate increase more than it could go 2 to 2.5x maximum
@newgen consultancy - welcome back bro 😃 Initially I too thought that application wise bHNI will be under subscribed but looking at current GMP & Fix Application rates calculations grey market participants are also expecting 91-92k applications. I feel things may change depending on how stock behaves towards the closing date.
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April 13, 2024 9:15:38 PM
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@newgen consultancy In Tata tech out of total 73 lac application appx 175000 of BHNI and 275000 for SHNI . If we compare these data with vodaphone then IMO BHNI will subscribe appx 2.2 times and SHNI around 7 to.इस as only 80k and 40 के lots are available respectively and retail will easily oversubscribed if premium stands in between rs 1 to 1.5 . Pl correct if I hv mistaken somewhere
@PLAZA Data are correct but the main difference is in the fundamental of companies. In tata issue size was small, GMP was very high and people are waiting for tata more than one year. I personally know who have never apply in ipo have applied in tata due to brand name. So I think no of applicants will far less than TATA.
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April 13, 2024 9:42:03 PM
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Final subscription revised probability as per availability of funds and fomo if exist at the close of day of fpo...
BHNI 1.75 SHNI 6 Retail 1.5
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April 13, 2024 9:48:38 PM
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@arvindarvind True but here fundamental doesn't works when in gray shares are easily saleable and handsome profit is generated within 3 days and overall 7 days by getting money back is quite attractive and I think more then tata issue where allotment uncertainty prevails ....
@newgen consultancy Retail and hni will have 9000 crore worth share. Who will buy it on listing because majority will be sell on list as VI future not looks bright. Will there be a lower circuit on listing or before listing
Please reply that as well asked by @arvindarvind very good doubt we have
Newgen sir , according to you in Bhni category how much shares we can allotted, and what should we do sell in grey or sell on listing day, give your opinion
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April 20, 2024 12:48:22 AM
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Vi fpo gmp sinking
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.60 paisa only
SAY ❌ TO 1️⃣0️⃣8️⃣
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April 20, 2024 11:04:30 AM
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Instead of new high it is making new low. Punters at work and want to grab as low as possible. I remember Yes bank FPO where price was going up and than fall after fpo closure but here it is already going down.
Fpo close hone ke bad lower circuit na lagne Lage vi ke stock me be aware is bar tamasha door se dekhne ka man ho Raha hai .....10-12 % is big I know but risk is also big 🙏🙏🙏
Imo agr idea last day tk 14 ke around close hua to over subscribe ho skta h ni to tough h if we see the history of yes bank n adani fpo of less little issue size
What are the chances of allotment in below 2 lacs retail application
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April 13, 2024 7:21:45 PM
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Maximum subscription in retail is 1.7x SHNi maximum 2.5 x BHNI maximum 0.9 x All are above as application wise Let's see on final day Those above are if nothing. Happen around world ,otherwise some impact (if iran israel war )
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April 13, 2024 7:05:59 PM
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Bharti hexa ka profit Vodafone idea to nhi leke jayega?????
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April 13, 2024 3:59:05 PM
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1.38 - 1.43
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April 13, 2024 4:00:39 PM
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Percentage wise only 15% premium So kindly hedge or sell and apply as its not a bad rate. Once F&O out from ban , it will be much lower side expected. And Premium will also come down.
But @Ankur Goel ji.. Lot of happening in Grey... might see avg subscription in Shni.. Many are selling in Grey as there we can see 8-10 % avg fix returns 🤷♀️
@Confuse Contact your depository branch.. Collect the physical form fixed for dematerialisation of physical shares.. Fill this form with required detail.. & complete all other require formalities..attached it with physical share certiicate which are to be dematerialise.. Your physical shares will be converted into demat form with in a fixed period.. I used this procedure to convert my physical shares.. It may be any other procedure also.. But I explain what I have used..
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April 13, 2024 1:49:27 PM
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True sir. Not in a position to ask Iran to wait for the attack on Israel 🤪 that may or may not happen. Market may fall or may rise or may remains steady. But one thing is sure that, by this method, we can get something rather than nothing or very much. Sometimes being middle class rather than richest or poor is more convincing and this is that situation for sure.
As per my opinion vi will subscribe 7 times in BHNI (application wise 1.25, SHNI 3, Retail 0.8 times, experts opinion please
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April 13, 2024 11:57:37 AM
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This issue will be more comparable to Yes Bank FPO. One can see retail love for this share given 38 lakh plus share holder and amongst them 27,000 plus shareholders with atleast 1 lakh plus share Company still serve 22 crore plus subscription and do require money to move from 2G to higher technology. India telecom market are cheapest in world for data prices. Visible fact is that both Airtel and Jio have not brought 5 G plans. They are providing 5G at prices of 4G. As and when they change the price as they too need to recover 5G infra expense the company will gain benefit of rising tide
Average holding of company shares below 20,000 share holding is just around 600 shares. My read is many shareholders will buy
Face value of this share is Rs. 10. No body can sell share of company below face value. However those confident will buy and rest will watch
When Indigo share came for IPO their book value was just Rs. 7 and IPO was 700 plus. You pay for running business so book value has no meaning in this case.
Looking at large supplier agreeing for conversion like American Tower Company converted their outstanding due of more than 1000 crore to equity. So my read is this is going to be interesting play like Yes Bank. If you have bought Yes Bank consider else this share is not for faint hearted
“Aditya Birla Sun Life AMC “ sure you must have heard it’s name. After emerging from the hellish depths, the share is window dressed to achieve almost 1/2 the IPO price after 3 years- of IPO.
Hope you remember bankruptcy rules of this Govt. where minority share holders are given nothing in case of winding up of company. I can not understand the rationale of this IPO???? Anyone does!!