Vodafone Idea Limited FPO Message Board (Page 73)

​@Anuwak  hedging isliye hai kyunki dono account milakar max loss define ho gaya of Rs 28000 for (160000 shares).Depending on alloted amount.Even if i am able to secure 80000 shares fixed profit of min rs 52000(assuming allotment at rs11.

I got your point. Thank you for the detailed illustration, sir.
But What if we short 1 lot for ex.: Sell FUT @ 12.65.
In 8 accounts (in your case), securing 80000 shares should not be hard at all. That way profit is of at least Rs 1.6, hence total profit will be of 1.3 lakhs approx.
Now, in worst case, suppose you get 60000 shares allotment, Price neeche jaane me to profit hi profit hai in case of less allotment & considering share price in cash increases above 13 (around 13.25 say), your profit will be of 60000*2.25 - 80000*0.7 (taking futures price even more than cash) = Rs. 81000.

Seems right?

One clear view ....
Many of them have hedged and sold positions in futures or bought put options ...
Just seeing the volume of VI Futures it is very clear it is going to be a surprise issue if everyone is a seller who is buying definitely a strong big player
Volumes more than 300cr shares till now apr may and June expiry
This is going to be a solid game no brainer
My view anchor will be solid
And oversubscription wise

QIB will be 10x
BHNI 5x (1/1)
SHNI 5x (1/5)
Retail 1.5x (1x application wise )

Those who are hedging be clear about it ... It won't be as easy to procure shares just a caution for one's hedging

I have few queries in my mind. Is it that easy to make money from arbitrage or by hedge in VI?
Hope 'll get clarification from experts.
1) What if this FPO gets cancelled (like AdaniEnt)/postponed/listing date got changed?
2) Usually last day of the expiry, broker 'll ask to maintain 100% of margin. Also, for index F&O, it gets auto settled, for stock options, one has to take/give delivery.
-In case 1 & 2, April contracts will become headache to give 1 lot delivery.
3) What if it opens with LC & followed by a few more LCs.
Forget to make some easy money, it can destroy the financial planning of an individual.

Kindly respond if anyone have their expertise in this kind of scenario.

Very complex situations in VI FPO
govt. With 33% stake, largest share holding.
In future govt. Will reduce or opt out in VI, like they did in hexacom recently.
Problems in VI book debt will not eased completely.
Duopoly in Indian teleco market currently.
Government want strong compitition with three players atleast.
In near future satellite data services from starlink(x) and Amazon kuiper(don't know details) will make further compitition.
Govt. More focusing on mobile (JAM)connectivity and cheaper data .
Entertainment choice are now shifting from television and cinema to mobile and wifi, revolution has started just now and under grown so growth is eminent.
Revamp of BSNL should be taken in to account
Earlier some buzz that VI can merge into BSNL, but I don't believe.

Risk takers can take positions with SL of 10rs

June or September end price hike is eminent

As per my calculations every households will pay 1200-1500 monthly in near future.

Old players ones remember example of YES BANK
Short term players can sell and apply

Vodafone PLC group and other entities will take part in FPO (my guess)

my thoughts only nothing reco.

Vi has been removed from fno ban. Please explain if i sell 1 lot(80000) in future so I have to apply min 4 hni lot in fpo to hedge my position. But what if I don't get the allotment and price increases? In this case I would suffer a big loss. Some ppl are same hedging will give guaranteed profit. Please explain how?

Do not indulge in such advices. It's your money afterall. Kindly apply only that much you can bear in case there is loss.

Suno sabki par Karo Jo khud seh pao

its better to buy pe because if stock goes down u are in profit if price goes up u are loss is just the premuim amount u paid. loss is limited profit is unlimtied

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​@newgen consultancy Sir can we buy and share for any shareholder quota in any upcoming IPO

Pls help if any

Heard ban on vi f&o is lifting today. Is it true?

New Mainboard IPO

JNK India Limited

Date : 23-25 April
Issue Size :
Fresh - 300 cr
OFS - 84,21,052 Shares

FV : 2 /-
Retail : 35%

Financials FY23 :
Rev - 411.5 cr
PAT - 46.4 cr

Till Q3 FY24 :
Rev - 256.8 cr
PAT - 46.2 cr
Prima Facie Expecting A PB OF Around 270
And Size Of 530~ cr

Finally new mainboard IPO JNK India Limited is coming, probably it will open next week.
​@Admin @ Chittorgarh.com Please open a new page.

Expected listing gain as per below table. I don't think so it won't be listed in discount. Keep on eye's QIB subscription on last (expected 2x). Almost confirmed allotement in retail category.

​@HappyToHelp I think very less probability to get Full Rs 10 lakh Allotment (92158 share) in BHNI..

In case of under subscription in BHNI, Allotment of around 3-4 lakhs is possible at max..

New Mainboard IPO

JNK India Limited

Date : 23-25 April
Issue Size :
Fresh - 300 cr
OFS - 84,21,052 Shares

FV : 2 /-
Retail : 35%

The Israeli war cabinet has decided to retaliate "clearly and forcefully" against the missile and drone attack carried out by Iran on Saturday, The Times of Israel has reported

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If FnO ban ends tomorrow as some are saying, what's best way to hedge (not considering selling in gray)?

Buy Apr 24 puts? Buy May 24 puts? Will the put premiums climb once the FnO ban ends or remain in current range?

Or better to short futures (arbitrage trade with fixed return)?

Is it better to wait till last day of FPO to hegde or could it go back into FnO ban, so better to hedge tomorrow?

Above are under assumption that one can get 2L allotment (either BHNI will be <1x, or 13 lot retail will give full allotment) per account.

​@rohiitian - better go with May contracts as the listing is on 25th coinciding with the expiry if margin constraints are there .
Margin requirements for April contracts would be high closer to the expiry.
If you are going with buying puts, May puts would be more expensive (for obvious reasons).

All in all, depending on how much margin you have you can chose either Apr/May contract.

​@rohiitian Near to expiry, options premiums will surely erode due to time decay, so for that May is suitable.
Likewise for futures for margin requirements. Also if one choses not to square up on expiry, May is the go to option.

All this should be coupled with how much allotment is received or supposed to be received. For the listing day price, imo other than expiry there are two aspects. One is the future holders coming to square up which pushes prices up, other is the allottees who sell for listing gains. The demand and supply balance of this should yield how listing plays out and how much gains one can make out of it.

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i am confused whether sale n apply here or going open ?
big hni rate 25k

I hv 4...
But not sure about shares allocation here . It will be huge
Because the category is going to be under subs here .

Can you pls explain how this works "sale n apply here or going open"?

thanks