but i think in ban period we can square off the position........... can not create the new position & secondly for hedging purpose actually we just want to waste that money just buying the put for the purpose to safeguard the downside
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April 16, 2024 4:19:31 PM
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Great run today in Bharti Hexa . It touched 917 ath level. The call given by the Jefferies of Rs 1080 which might get 1000 plus by April 2024 only. Happy days for all Bharti Hexa who have hold it tightly and enjoy the time.
@Retail investor small If you go on top of this page, details are available for you to go through. Reproduced below as quick reference: VI FPO price band is set at ₹10 to ₹11 per share. The minimum lot size for an application is 1298 Shares. The minimum amount of investment required by retail investors is ₹14,278. The minimum lot size investment for sNII is 15 lots (19,470 shares), amounting to ₹214,170, and for bNII, it is 71 lots (92,158 shares), amounting to ₹1,013,738.
All dear CG members after vi came out of FNO ban i sold one lot April Futures and will try to get maximum shares in this FPO All the gurus please let me know it this is the right approach for me to have conviction of my trade
I've also gone short on its Future today. Will Apply FF in FPO. I think the reward in Future Short is better than OTM CE SELL... Now the question is, whats the best category to apply FPO. Im thinking of 8 retail applications with less than 2L Suggestions Welcome
Quick which is also F&O expiry). This assumes buying 4 lots of 12 PE April exp @ 0.2; Interest cost @ 9.75% for BHNI.
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April 16, 2024 1:49:28 PM
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@Sunsam Yes bhai.. 11 ya 12 strike price ki PE buy kar sakte hai.
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April 16, 2024 2:58:52 PM
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⭐Not any buy/sell advice only for understanding
Rightly said @Sadluckforever That's what I am thinking while reading your previous message i assumed that why you are saying to buy CE and sell in future and you even try to make profit from hedge position 😄, By just buying PE of 12/11 you can easily hedge your IPO application. It's feels good when someone like you giving there valuable insights ,keep it up 👍 and Yes hedging is something that when situation is not in your favour you will exit your position at breakeven But as @Aman Soni Ban will take place then hedging is risky as of now
@Prince 🤴 Par yeh wala method better hai put kharidne se.This method is in my opinion better because expiry ke din put agar in the money aa gaya toh 5lakh+ margin require hoga.isme 2.1lakh mai use hokar last day margin requirement nahi aayega & and many brokers dont allow you to hold naked options close to expiry
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April 17, 2024 10:43:33 AM
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@Prince 🤴 Even in ban, we will be able to square off existing positions, so no worries. @Chirag Agrawal 10 lots? bhai 8 lakh shares hote hai.. itne ka allotment milne ka jugaad bhi to dekhna padega.
Vodafone Retail Category need 4412382 Applications of 1 lot each to subscribe 1 time. So confirm allotment of single lot applicants and more for other lots up to 14 is quite possible. In recent memory only Tata Tech attracted 7325011 Retail Applications. As this being FPO short term price movement in the Counter will have a bearing on final subscription figures.
if retail category remain less than 1x subscribe after the completion of the IPO , then if somebody applied for the 14 lots (Less than 2 lakhs) will get the whole 14 lots........ Plz guide
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April 16, 2024 2:36:13 PM
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Before sell on grey please confirm with the broker many brokers not allowed pre opening limit order between 9 AM TO 9:07 AM and grey market punter want to sell pre opening only so please check with your broker and comment below which one is allowed to sell pre opening , and than sell on grey market. Just i confirm Many following brokers not allowed in pre opening.
I am not familiar with Hedging and F&O. Seeing lot of discussion around F&O for this FPO. Please advice if F&O strategy is very much needed for this FPO ? Cant we simply apply without hedging strategies ?
Confusion in hedging, because on listing many people will sell in cash and lot of buyer in future. Lower circuit in cash and upper circuit in futures am I right?
It completely depends on your risk appetite and the funds you have....because even 1 lot of future hedge will cost around 4 lac plus MTM margin is also required.
If you can hedge in future with someone of your known person and then cost will get reduce.
Bought 12 CE @ 0.9 & SOLD FUT @ 12.65 in one account. If 80000 share alloted at 11 then min profit 60000 till Rs12 and then profit above Rs 12 increases as price increases.
In another Account Bought 11 CE @ 1.8 & Sold Fut @ 12.7. Max loss is 8000.If share alloted at Rs 11 profit starts above Rs.11.1(for 80000 allotment).
A little complicated strategy did math for 15 mins XD
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April 16, 2024 12:02:29 PM
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@Sadluckforever Strategy is ok but with the caveat of 1,60,000 allotment (80,000 per account). How are you planning to ascertain assurance for that? Anything +/-, the figures change.
@MuStrFc Have 8 accounts in total for applying IPO. Will apply 2 BHNI accounts & Probably 6 retails accounts (can apply 4bhni/4 retail aswell) of 14 lots after seeing last day subscriptions.Even if 30000 shares alloted in all 8 accounts, I have my losses covered anything above that is profit. If 80000-100000 shares alloted in total, can mint good money.Risk reward seems good to me
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April 16, 2024 12:14:23 PM
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Do we really need to buy the CE option? I mean if we only sell the Futures, then profit will only be limited, right? With buying the CE option, is there any need to apply in FPO? FPO me apply karte hai in this situation, fir isme hedging kaise hui, 3 positions (Futures sold, CE bought & FPO alotment) ho gayi to 1 to open hi rahegi. Please correct me if I am wrong.
what is the fault if we simply buy 11 pe @ 0.10 paise max loss is 8000 even if we do not get any shares if we got shares 80000 & sell it at lets say 12.5 profit will be 120000 - 8000 ........ am I missing anything please guide.....
@Anuwak This is cheaper premium wise as compared to buying PE even though it uses more capital. Max loss is 28000 in case of non allotment. Max loss in PE can be 104000 for 2 lots for in the money Put. @Ajit Katariya 12 CE higher Risk and max loss is 20000 per lot(profit is better). 11CE strategy is low risk. Max loss is 8000