Need quick help... As most of the time my third party application are getting rejected I was wondering if Can We Map Individual Deemats UPI Approval to My Personal UPI ID will That be Possible
105. sbipo| Link| Bookmark|
May 13, 2022 12:29:06 PM
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@Avenue, R u applying in bHNI or sHNI? Or in retail obly to minimize risk?What's your criteria for superb subs,QIB isn't picking up here probably coz of market conditions, T2T segment listing and small issue size, Thanks
@sbipo... to me HNI average sub 10-15x, good sub 15x-20x, excellent 20x+. Pure Blind Guess...
By now big HNI have learnt that there is no real advantage to apply for for than 10L application. Like in campus 4 people applied for 102000 shares and only 1 out of 4 was awarded 714, so in fact lesser chance as compared to 10L applicant. It may bring down final HNI figures somewhat.
My applications will be a combination of sHNI and bHNI purely depending on final subscription figures. We can even apply in sHNI at least till 4:00 pm through Zerodha/Edelweiss. There are too many complexities and uncertainties except playing blind, now even sHNI figures can be manipulated, via UPI route. If subscription is average or less, may apply half and target half after listing... If SEBI wants us to play blind, we have to play blind... .
Small IPO size .. Better NoT to get carried away by subscription numbers. GMP not more than 10%. High risk investor should only try for 2 lacs worth of allotment. Allotment chance in retail will be very low.
Can I apply through 3rd Party UPI will my application bw accepted ? has anyone recently got any allotment using 3rd party UPI application ? pleas guide me, Thanks
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May 13, 2022 12:32:23 PM
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Till now Nii subscription figure is not impressive.
What is the role of SEBI? Make life easy for the investors or keep them in the dark? Non disclosure of the HNI category subscription makes the risk takers do too much guesswork while leaving the door open for the issuers and their accomplices to commit their white collar fraud.
IPO Open : 20-May-2022 IPO Close : 24-May-2022 Basis of Allotment : 27-May-2022 Initiation of Refunds: 30-May-2022 Credit of Shares : 31-May-2022 IPO Listing Date : 1-Jun-2022
Sonam Patel what is your opinion for eMudhra ipo , to invest or avoid
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May 12, 2022 12:09:16 PM
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Campus is now available @ 330 at right valuations. On can pick this gem for long term. Rainbow too can be picked at around 455-465 levels. Pretty nice results expected in the future in this counter seeing the rush in various hospitals to pre-Covid levels.
@Dipendu.... PE of campus is calculated on fy 2021 EPS. But if you approximate the Dec 2021 EPS upto march 2022. EPS should lie between 3.5-3.75....that brings down PE to 90-97 range...in BOA itself the PE is mentioned as 101 over issue price of 292. Don't blindly follow the PE mentioned by financial websites and apps they are using the 2021 EPS of 1.77
Well.....you can buy Mirza international (Red tape)... I'm accumulating in this fall. Their products are of good quality and a major exporter to Europe.
Once LiC is listed on issue price.. we'll see nifty @15000...then an upward movement to 16500. If you are lucky to get 20% gains in venus then book profits. As it would not sustain those gains and will be back to issue price. As i said earlier..8-10% listing gain and double UC of 5%..will get you 20% gains. T2T category...no intraday...can sell after T+2 day if purchased on listing date. I would like someone more experienced to confirm this T+2 settlement cycle, as most stocks are moving to T+1 cycle.
@Lokes, Avenue, Noorul, MRavi sir and other experts,
In Campus, we had 6700 applications in BHNI and subscriptions were around 19500 applications I.e 1:3 BHNI.
In Venus, it seems we had 788 applications, if we go with 15000 applications over subscription, are we saying that possibility of getting in BHNI is 1:20?
I think with so much negativity all around in boarder market there will b significant downfall in uhni category applications. With only 10% GMP and wounds given by black and white Rainbow will take time to heal.. taking all this factor into sight.. my assumption uhni category allotment ratio will b 1:7
Thanks Noorul. Still 1:10, will be very remote chance to get allotment. Hopefully SEBI gives application wise subscription of SHNi vs BHNI, so that we can plan accordingly
@Suneel..How can we use subscription figures of one IPO to estimate the Other. I may wrong but currently HNI are playing blind. So far HNIs were calculating now they are estimating and predicting..And it may work in safer IPOs like Venus.
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May 12, 2022 1:55:14 PM
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@suneel: as avenue informed, there is no comparison between two, both are completely different kind of ipos in many ways.....campus was a established brand and with big size, with more than 30% gmp during ipo time, had good demand from QIB's and in venus, its small size and will be in t2t category and currently having less than 10% gmp so we cannot think of any similar no. of applications here like in campus. Even rainbow was having around 5-10% gmp and similar size of campus and had good fundamentals but that had very less total demand in HNI. And in t2t category ipos, mostly hni/qib demand is less and retail demand is more like in hariom pipes, hp adhesive, uma exports (except some like sigachi).
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May 12, 2022 3:16:50 PM
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@ suneel
how you calculated 788 application, please explain
@Bhav.. Approximate way. bHNI 10% of total share (- some ) 507410, equal to 507410/46 =11030 Lots. Since each applicant will get minimum 14 lots, total successful applicants 11030/14 = 788. I hope I am correct in my assumptions
Good subscription figure on second day. Looks like retail and HNI both cross 10-15X.
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May 10, 2022 2:33:49 PM
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Mravi Sir, Noorul Sir, Lokesh Sir & Avenue and other esteemed friends of the forum Gentlemen, Kindly let us have your views for 3 running ipos (Delhivery/Prudent/Venus). So far my vote for venus and then prudent (if subs phenomenal) about Delhivery, it may be a dark horse/dead horse. Thanks.
@K.Atar... I am yet to see and compare them. Still at first glance Venus is a safer bet. will apply here. For Prudent & Delhivery... a lot depends on subscription and market sentiments. I hope they do not follow Rainbow path due to HNI distribution unclarity and imbalance. I will be careful in these two.
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May 10, 2022 8:06:00 PM
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@Avenue, its a small size ipo (for me it is its usp) . others are comparatively larger, we have seen what happened to veranda 200 cr ipo. it flew to the moon. Only negative seems to me is Promoter holding More views are invited.
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May 10, 2022 8:43:25 PM
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I am also waiting for clarity of the experts here. I am also leaning towards just Venus.
@MRavi... Yes HariOm has corrected, but most of stocks have corrected by almost same margins. Venus is safest IPO among three, relatively, though nothing can be confirmed in current times. I will apply FF only if subscription is extra ordinary.
Venus looks promising among current 3 running IPOs.. but there is twist Venus amount can't b used pardeep poshpate which also looks very attractive and eye catching. Let's see how subscription figure goes to get some idea.
@Noorul. Funds availability may not be a major issue due to HNI limit of 2 or even 10L. most HNIs will still have fund for all IPOs. Let's see...
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May 12, 2022 9:15:54 AM
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Arrival of Paradeep has presented a healthy dilemma, which one to target, looking at the recent trend, it can be said that we should target only one ipo at a time, which one out of two is going to shine on listing day is tricky now.
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May 12, 2022 9:20:58 AM
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@MRavi Sir, in mu opinion these times have forced everyone to protect capital at first opportunity that's why we see correction everywhere (started by FIIs). However I feel that we should also do the same, doing cherry picking and keeping risk at minimum level by taking out capital (leaving the profit in stock - only if loss is bearable in future), and exiting if situations demand so. **People are free to make their own decision as per their investment capability.
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May 12, 2022 10:30:07 AM
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Undoubtedly, Venus is the best among three.
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May 12, 2022 2:30:08 PM
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@K.Atar: As, by now, it is clear that mostly are avoiding both prudent and delhivery. Regarding venus, it is good to apply as per financials and future expansion plans. No idea how mostly all companies managing to have too good financials in 6/9 months of current FY while bringing ipo. But as per current market situation and lesser than 10% gmp, we should be careful while applying in HNI category due to 14 lots allotment. Mostly all t2t group companies are hitting UC after listing and then LC after 2-3 days but here if market conditions won't improve and no much qib demand, then it may hit LC too after listing due to selling from HNI's so lets see the final demand in qib/hni to decide to apply in which category and how many applications etc. Better don't apply too many hni applications since if allotted in multiple and listing not as expected then it can be a big blow again like rainbow. Campus was a good brand and had good gmp, so that can't be compared here to apply for too many hni applications. Rest everyone can decide as per their risk/funds/holding capacity.
for retail, allotment will be difficult to get but surely gonna apply for this
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May 12, 2022 4:55:13 PM
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I was not allotted anything in campus and thus bought 600, so kind of in waiting period, this sentiment improvement will take time (since few months there is no respite), as you rightly pointed out regarding the mentality of super hni, and as we saw a recent example, and same story can be repeated here so as you suggested its better if we wait for the subscription numbers and look for broader market sentiment (very important to me), we can test it with one leg only, not necessary to jump all in.