Hi, If SME shares are allotted in ANGEL Demat account, can I sell those shares on the day of listing? or shall I have to wait till the next day? Thanks in advance.
Angel me gafle hote he listing day par, maal jata nahi he, call bazi karni padti je customer care me, kai baar wo bhi hath khade kar dete he, jo waake hi sukhi hona ho to broker badal do, Zerodha me account kholwake usme se bharo, also, angel not provide sme ipo on its plateform but zerodha provide it.
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August 8, 2022 6:31:13 PM
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@nurool, Thanks a lot yaar,and I think,without your dua,it couldn't have been possible,so I think u helped me indirectly to get Agni allotment. And u r telling it's a jewelleriy company but from company prospectus,it's mentioned as textile company,I know that jewellery companies are traditionally wealth destroyer,but u see,Veekrupa is hitting daily upper circuit and has doubled,when operators are there nothing can stop a stock,whatever its quality may be,anyway thanks
@ Sbipo.. I mean to say all this jewellery, clothing and fashion sectors didn't gave a pleasant experience to investors . Yes this one fall into a clothing category .. and you can check out the recent examples of abcotspin, swaraj, kck .. they all are struggling on sme platform and to very surprised lEmerit a company with great fundamentals is struggling to reach even it's issue price.. yes exceptions are always there like veerkurpa but if you went throught it's fundamentals you will see it's very downrated.. it's pure operators play or may b leading manager also Having a big role in it because of its fake advertisement issue ..and then a warning from sebi.. may b L manager for the sake of its name.. giving it a fake ride because size of equity is paper thin.
Infact that time I also received a msg from unknown number that advertising about Veerkurpa company .. mention a GMP of 7rs, debt free etc etc. I m trying to post that screenshot but not finding any option.
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August 9, 2022 10:25:10 AM
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@nurool, Rightly said buddy,I also noticed how textile sme listed stocks exibiting pathetic performance and worried for this also,that's why wanted your opinion,but SBT and subs showing good progression till now,don't know what will happen at the time of listing,anyway please inform your decision on 11th around 2:45 pm regarding subscribing this issue, Happy Muharram,Allah bkess u, Thanks
@sbipo.. thanks buddy and here I will surely apply atleast for listing gain... Subject to is increasing with everyday... Looks like getting a lot is now become a difficult thing. Try your luck with all the accounts you have.
Considering recent bull run specially in SMEs, I expect huge subscription again. Even FF may not guarantee allotment. Money will be probably be available for mainboard Syrma, if not even 2L sHNI application can be made (sHNI/bHNI subscription guessing game starts again...) and use bulk in Olatech... I expect 100x + HNI subscription here if Upsurge gives an expected good listing...
Big members i know about mainboard ipo profit suppose one year 4 5 ipo allot and total gain in ipo profit is 20k to 25k this is example only. So this type of gain tax implied or skiped this gains on taxation.or this is neccesary or skip it.please inform us.
20-25 k realised gain (after selling shares) after one year is not taxable but you have to show in IT return mandatorily. If you don't show it, you may get notice.
Vibhor is correct. Just reread the rules and looks like total annual income upto 250000 is exempted from tax for age < 60 years.
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August 9, 2022 2:46:50 PM
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@Nobody says
250000.00 per year is basic exemption. Any income like salary, pension, bank interest, company dividend, house rent etc are reckoned in this limit at first after appropriate adjustment applicable to each as the case may be. Any remaining amount if available in this limit can be used to adjust capital gains short term as well as long term. If the basic limit is exhausted in the income mentioned above then LTCG & STCG needs to be paid after adjustments. Trust this helps.
@ipo gyaan & @vibhor saxena both have different on tax.please clarify in detail if one demat has annual calculate total income of only ipo profit is something 30k 40k so this is in stcg or this stcg will i have pay tax or skipp it.
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August 9, 2022 10:17:11 AM
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@Nobody says Don't worry,just skipp it,40000/ stcg is less than 250000/
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August 7, 2022 8:43:20 PM
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wait you didnt talk at first when you were applying, always talk first, assuming the situation that you cant ask them to transfer money to your account, i think you can transfer your share from their demat to yours, that too required lot of procedure, easiest portal in cdsl website will do it.
@Priya./@Divya. 1. Money is NEVER EVER transferred from D-MAT Account.Shares are Tfd. 2. DIS ( Delivery Instruction Slip) will do for OFF-Market Transfer of Shares. 3. You can also transfer Money form Friend's Bank Account but only with his/her consent and subject to Income Tax laws 4. All this can ONLY HAPPEN after taking friend in Full Confidence. 5. A lot more Questions are still to discuss........
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August 8, 2022 9:44:35 AM
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Transactions in any one's demat account, online or offline, without his knowledge and consent are illegal and should be avoided. All these transactions are monitored by Income tax authorities and there are tax implications of such transactions. Sooner or later, it may land up anybody in big problem. So, friends, be careful and it's better to have perfectly legal transparent transactions.
@Priya In my opinion it is better not to ask such questions in forum. I also think that nobody is going to reply such questions. This is personal matter. People will start asking how you share profit and so on. Sale proceed is never credited in demat account.
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August 8, 2022 11:20:19 AM
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@ Monster , are you using groww only for mainline IPOs or for SMEs too ? Because on listing day groww is not allowing buying and selling in SMEs though stock is in demat account. @ Monster & Kami , CDSL's easiest service is free of cost or does it charge for transfer of shares ? Shares are transferred on same day ? Thanks
@Manu How can one take consent to withdraw from his bank account. You need to have blank Cheque duly signed, or password of net banking and other things. Who is going to share all these with friends now a days. Do you remember : "Never ask the age of a female and salary of a male".
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August 8, 2022 12:11:28 PM
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@ Monster & Kami , CDSL's easiest service is free of cost or does it charge for transfer of shares ? Shares are transferred on same day ? Thanks
@ PKRAJ Why cannot one take consent to withdraw from his bank.Of course all legal banking methods needed. Friends also include "close family friends" ,may be relatives........They can easily share all these details like i and Monster Zero AND MANY MORE are practically doing without a single problem.( REMEMBER- Within four corners of law).
This is not end.....A lot still to be discussed
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August 8, 2022 12:23:06 PM
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@svh 0.03% of the transfer value or Rs. 25, whichever is higher, plus 18% GST. You (transferor of the shares) will also have to pay stamp duty at 0.015% on the consideration amount to CDSL on their platform.
@Manu So happy to read that you people share all the details of Bank, etc. with each another. I have seen even the people don't share mobile with own family. I my time there was no mobile. Even I don't lock my mobile. You people might have opened one joint account. I have no right to ask you or say anything about such relation. Let other memmbers say something in this regard.
Only paid the 13.5 + gst ..cdsl charges for transfer of shares. Transfer reason: gift. Only did it for main line IPOs, never crossed threshold of 50k , which is limit for gifting stocks. 50k per year. Never applied sme from friends account. For sme only family accounts are used, not even relatives.
I read in some zerodha thread, this Stamp duty is applicable only if off-market transfer (online mode through easiest) is Sale. if it is a gift no need to pay this stamp duty, can you please confirm this?
When you transfer using CDSL Easiest (for Zerodha to Zerodha atleast), approx 27 rs is deducted from your Zerodha account. It even goes into -ve if you have Zero balance in your Zerodha account (not recommended) and later you can add funds in Zerodha to settle this.
27 rs for mainly Mainboard IPO for SME, approx 130 rs, depends on the amount actually. I did transfer both types of allotted shares from one Zerodha to another Zerodha account using CDSL Easiest.
That is good... Zerodha to Zerodha process is much easier and convenient... I tried recently and successfully transferred (not ipo shares).
One doubt to ask you.. whether zerodha allowing immediate transfer after allotment (previous day of listing)? And all ipo shares (companies) will it allow under gift segment???
1. immediate transfer after allotment (previous day of listing)? In 99% of cases, NO. Only once I was able to transfer before listing that too because of the long gap between CDSL credit and listing date difference. You have to wait till listing and then transfer in the evening (before 6 PM). The next day it will be there in the recipient account. But after most of the transfers, you have to resolve discrepancy yourself from here https://console.zerodha.com/portfolio/holdings/discrepancy/EQ
2. all ipo shares (companies) will it allow under gift segment?
From Zerodha Gift interface: Mostly NONE of the newly listed are allowed. It allows only selected/old listed stocks to gift. (https://console.zerodha.com/gift) Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12D5MnLDav3AVxSY84nc1aavaYg9kbLkRyZvq7aJ-DCM/edit#gid=40865646
From CDSL Easiest: ALL of the listed stocks (newly listed and old ones) (not sure about unlisted ones, but sure they are allowed too)
@Priya.. I dropped the tag as per my choice.. well you can still dance on this as per your choice.
@sbipo.. Jewellery business having a worst track record and destroyed the wealth of many so can't play blindly here on GMP... I will apply on last day after a clear picture of subscription figures. And congrats to you finally you pocked a hefty profit in Agni.. wish many to come more..