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we can be save ourselves only by sebi not by any court or highcourt,because our regulatory is sebi,so kindly wake-up him.

YES IN USA AND OTHER COUNTRIES RULES ARE STRICT SO YOU GET GOOD PRICE FOR THE IPO ON LISTING
EVERY BODY IS WATCHING WHAT IS GOING ON
IN INDIA CAT IS ONLY WATCHING MOUSE

Two recently listed companies in the US fared extremely well. "LinedIn" IPO opened 96% up from the issue price and "MakeMyTrip" (MMYT) IPO surged 89% on listing.
Compare this to the ailing IPO market in India.
Greed is killing the IPO market in India and in this the Merchant Bankers play spoilsport in not advising to properly price the issues.
By tying to extract the most that they can at any point of time, the Merchant Bankers overprice the issues and are spoiling the party.
From a position of chalking up new records, now we are in a position where there are hardy any takers for the new corporate paper.
On Reliance Power, the IPO which was fully subscribed within a minute of its opening, The Financial Time of London wrote "Its only when the tide goes out that you discover who is swimming naked. Few are caught in quite such an alarming state of undress as Reliance Power".
There are many such cases of naked swimming (to name a recent few Ramky, A2Z and Galaxy - badly priced good companies) which continues unabated. When will good times return to the IPO market in our country?

court injuction is not easy affair all the investors have to meet together and then have file an injuction SEBI AND the lead manager and other vested broker will remove the injuction you canot sell the share till you fight ie an 10% to 15% loss on listing will be converted in 50% to 75% loss till the court decides your matter in 10 years
still i am not an expert consult leagal opion before you decide action .case can be filed in mumbai only

I see lots of people are debating on Vaswani IPO. Those who have burnt fingers are responsible of their own money. Now rather blaming other ( for your loss likely to happen if Vaswani lists ) why can't those stuck with multiple full applications file a complaint and get stay order from high court to postpone IPO listing ( this can be done if SEBI gives node to Vaswani to list without listening to retail investors' complains ). I am sure if one moves strong application in court, they can postpone the listing..

some where or the other both boad members at fault we cannot blame one person i think both are correct at some point of time sreedhar and good broker. sreedhar is right on ipo part while good broker is right on the complain part proper format is required as per SEBI norms or atleast name application and pan is required along with demat accounts so the complaint becomes valid while sreedhar has helped all in guiding for ipo
seems from the tone of goodbroker he is an person in govt department or some where related to cases going on in share deparment
any way both of them should stop the fight and continue forthe benifit of board members

now that sreedhar has also posted all his calls i dont think any one has any doubt....sreedhar you rock man as always

Dear Sreedhar,
He is a person who can't spell the names of the fellow boarders properly (seedhar for you and k k nataragan for me). I doubt his intentions. Ignore him.

Ravi, Bangalore

In a number of earliar posts you have mentioned that you apply in all small issues & that 90 % of such issues list in premium. I am sure you must have applied in this issue also. What is your stretegy on its listing if at all held. What premium / discount we should expect. Anything can happen if it goes into operators hands.

sreedhar,guruji,now your opinion about pfc &sail

SHEEDHAR
VERY GOOD KEEP IT UP AND ALL THE BEST FOR YOU COMPLAINTS TO SEBI ON THE VASWANI ISSUE
GOD BLESS YOU
YOU ARE REAL SUPER MAN IN THIS CHITTORGARH SITE LIKE THE ONES ON CNBC TV AND ETNOW ETC

sheedhar

HOWEVER OFTEN YOU MAY HAVE DONE 100 FAVOURS TO SOMEBODY
BUT IF YOU ONCE YOU COMIT AN MISTAKE THEY FORGET EVERY THING EXPECT YOUR MISTAKE

Buying quality companies at 5200 & selling above 5700.My blockbuster prediction of SKS when it was 1300.I said bubble will burst.

Coming back to recent calls:This is my record:

1)Muthoot sell at 193.It was the highest rate.Now Muthoot maybe at 155.
2)Vaswani.I said to withdraw on saturday.Vaswani I said will get real pasting.GMP went o as low as -20.
3)Innoventive 100 percent avoid-now 87
4)PTC -avoid-now 17
5)SBI bond - recomended people to buy 9.95 . people got 4 percent premium-1percent interest-1percent incentive so total 6 percent profit with full allotment
6)Servalakshmi-Buy at 29.3 with stop loss at 27.3.I sold at 35,40 ,45
in 3 instalments.I told even that one.
7)Acropetal one more Ravi
8)Most Important I said those who do not have knowledge in faltu companies do not apply becos you will get crippling losses.Thats wat happening in Vaswani.

just calcualte how much people have made if they followed me 100 percent.Simple just take example of servalakshmi & innoventive they would have made a whopping 1 lakh rupees(note the amount saved from innoventive).These 2 Im considering becos my friends really made or saved this amt.Go & find such money spinner & post his name.I will permanently say goodbye to chittorgarh.

I can go on & on about ramky,jaypee etc avoid apply real good return ipos & so on.

Your quote""yes if your advice is good all the board members say i am happy with it but one point i failed to under stand if you are good advisor as all say and i partally agree with it""
I think you had fully agreed with If I had not given wrong call on Omkar.So due to that You only partially agree becos in more than 100 Ipos I had given omkar wrong.

So good joker(sorry spelt your name wrong-I think you you have the same intention in spelling my name as seedhar)

I do not have any more patience to go beyond SBI bonds for the record of my reco's-If I go beyond I can bring out my real blockbuster calls & ,lic hsg(3 excellent calls)

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Apex,
Withdraw your application.If you can withstand loss of 20 K ,you can hold but freshers & investors whose loss bearing capacity is less should not apply for such issues.These type of issues can make you or break you easily to the tune of 20 k.


Servalakshmi:
673. Sreedhar May 12, 2011 9:40:54 AM IST | Reply | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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As ipo message board is not working.I m posting my message here.Momentum is surely on upside for Servalakshmi.Those who have got shares & gone long can put a stop loss of 27.3 & go long for good returns.


PFC:
Sreedhar May 16, 2011 10:29:45 AM IST | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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Bj,
That rate came on monday when price was announced.I had asked everyone to buy at opening rates on that day.I myself bought at 203,200,201 etc at an average rate of 201.4.I have also advised them to sell today or tomorrow where it will be at its highest rate.I have in fact disposed off 1 future at 209 today.

Innoventive:
Sreedhar Apr 30, 2011 12:37:32 PM IST | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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SK Dash,
Lot of my friends from chittorgarh who were regular boarders have applied for Innoventive Industries.They all have withdrawn from the IPO now after my suggestion.The main threat is Innoventive industries is a quality company which has come out at higher valuations.100 percent of such companies have failed miserably example being PFS,Ramky,claris,hatwaycable,Jaypee & so on & it should meet the same fate.I told them only one thing when there is 99 percent odds of listing discount why should we risk our money.They will not blame me even if lists in premium .
Looks like you have applied & hope to continue in Innoventive, best of luck to you.

Note:iNNOVENTIVE NOW AT 87.

Sreedhar Apr 29, 2011 10:52:22 AM IST | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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Friends,
Both Servalakshmi & Innoventive are average issues . Innoventive being bigger & also is well known will be more susceptible to selling pressure.Remember quality companies which are subscribed less in QIB segment & which have priced their Issues a tad expensive mostly fail spectacularly as seen from Ramky,Jaypee,PFS,A2Z etc.Innoventive falls in this category.

3)never subscribe to junk companies.Junk companies require strategy.I had applied for Ravi distilleries ,acropetal & after finding people have shorted a lot before ipo. they covered a lot after the close which resulted in share premium touching 20-30 percent & a gain of 50 k per application.If you see there is no gmp change even after 2-3 days then stop your application.This requires a careful strategy which everyone may not be aware of.



##**When Vaswani allotment not yet declared:**##


Sreedhar May 11, 2011 12:29:22 PM IST | I Like It. Like (1) | Report Abuse

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Look for one more pasting in this Issue.These IPOs are running only on grey market.People sell their Kostak's & apply for it.Due to this others are applying.When a person cannot afford to sell in grey market best course of action for him is to leave these type of grade 1 issues.They will surely give 20-30 k profit & will also take away the same amt.


***##Call for manapuram***-check the rates-low & high are whai i predicted##


642.4. Sreedhar May 05, 2011 11:02:07 PM IST | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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Irrespective of fate of Muthoot I am going to short Manappuram in good quantity tmrw.I am sure it will drop from 135.5 -136 to 127-128.Those are my shorting & covering points.Good probability it will happen.



***##Muthoot-My advice****###

Sreedhar May 05, 2011 10:45:27 PM IST | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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SGupta,
it will list at 193.I hope & pray that it will not go below 193.If below 193 I will sell immediately.



***###Good broker making fun of me without seeing my earlier posting on May 05 ****###

GOOD BROKER May 06, 2011 10:08:27 AM IST | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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VAS NAT, sheedhar
where are you
are you wating for rs 200

***##See this clown-when I clearly said I will sell below 193 he is asking me Where are you??Waiting for rs 200??***##


***###When reliance was 1050-1050 was the highest-Reliance retreated from 1050***###


Sreedhar Mar 31, 2011 2:11:50 PM IST | I Like It. Like (1) | Report Abuse

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Bj,
1050 may be the short term cap on this stock.You can sell now & buy back later again at 950.Remember I have traded Reliance like this more than 6 times at least in last 6-9 month or so.Everytime gain of 100-150.So my investment in Reliance already doubled.Follow this simple mantra you have nothing to loss but everything to gain.


***###sHILPI CABLES***###


Sreedhar Mar 28, 2011 1:17:32 PM IST | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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Gane,
I have applied to Shilpi cables from the refund money of Lovable.Hope to make some money in it.


***##simpleton had posted this comment***####

Simpleton Mar 14, 2011 11:35:28 AM IST | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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"One more thing most of those who applied in Fineotex & Sudar will face crippling loss in another Issue becos blindly applying for such Issues will even out & with all charges & brokerages they will face loss."

- Sreedhar Sir, you are the Rajnikant of share markets. The IPOs you apply in and earn, are the best and you can continue to reap further profits endlessly. But, if others apply in IPOs, and by mistake earn profit, thou shall earn ur wrath and losses and rot in hell! ;)
For them, it eventually evens out, but you sir are Rajnikant :D
ps > Hope you dont mind me comparing you to Ranjikant. Or may be Rajni will mind, not sure! Am confused :)
As always, good job! I hope one day these morons listen n learn from you!

###****Had clearly told people not to apply such issues-See whats happening in Vaswani-They were on the verge of facing alomost 80 thousand loss for 2 lakh application
Their profit from sudar,fineotex etc will have vanished***###

****###PTC my opinion***####
Sreedhar Mar 14, 2011 7:02:39 AM IST | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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Friends,
price band of PTS financial services out in Financial express.Price band is 26-28 & discount of 1 Rupee to the retail inves
tor.At 28 Issue is costly



***###My comment on SBI bond-spot on 400 RS per 10000 -See now also its premium***###
Sreedhar Feb 19, 2011 2:05:45 PM IST | I Like It. Like | Report Abuse

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Dear Bj,
10 year is at 9.25 .Now most of the fixed deposits are being offered at 9.25 hence no premium for it.At the time of listing in Nov 2010 the rate of interest was around 8.25 if I am not mistaken,hence the premium on listing at almost 5-8 percent.Now 9.5 is at 10388.So 150 premium for it.9.95 Interest is very high even by historical conditions since 9.5 is commanding good premium 9.95 should definitely command 400 premium per 10000 in my opinion.This is also my first investment in bonds.
It is first come first serve basis.You will find the forms in most of SBI branches & in places where you get IPO forms.Submit in designated SBI branches.


****##My post when Acropetal greymarket premium was 5 rs-I said it will become another ravi-hOW TRUE-aCROPETAL LISTED AT 30 PERCENT PREMIUM**##
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Dear Gane,
It is pretty easy.If you remember I had posted when its greymarket premium was 5 rs ,It will be another Ravi distilleries.After the Issue if grey market increases with no corresponding QIB subscription to show for it means some Idiot is short in it.let him enjoy the loss.

215. Gapoo

A large number of applications were withdrawn after the IPO closed. Retail investors got 75% allotment, panicked and complained to SEBI.

SEBI is now investigating what lead to such a large number of withdrawals.

To be honest, I have no sympathy for such investors. In the past, I have booked losses in IPOs like Indiabulls Power. I don't blame anyone for that except myself. Investors should understand the risks of applying for over-valued or junk IPOs.

Although some investors alleged wrongdoing in the issue, I have a different take. In all probability, these investors were in the issue only for listing gains. But once they saw much higher allotment than expected, which wiped out the grey market premium, they went to SEBI.

GOOD BROKER
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k k nataragan
i have not applied in the vasvani issue and i donot run like other run but i am not causing an flutter in the form
i say give good advice correct advice and think of all board members when you make comments you people are BOARD STAR CONTRIBUTORS
as i say learn IPO rules , SEBI rules then advice people to make email in this forum


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seedhar
yes if your advice is good all the board members say i am happy with it but one point i failed to under stand if you are good advisor as all say and i partally agree with it then what made you apply in the vasvani issue sudenly at 5 or 4 pm that means you are not that good at advice, since the issue was subcribed and qrey market premium was more you rushed to apply and got trapped along with others
advice people before the qib subcribe about the ipo i and all will be happy still iam an very small person in this forum
pl advice people correctly as SEBI rules say applicat name, address signature, demat ,pan number and applicant signatiure is required for submission of complant ,scan copy can be submitted by email or fax the complaint

HAI EVERYBODY,

THE PRESENT SITUATION IS TORTURING FOR THE VASWANI INVESTORS. THE
LAST TWO DAYS THERE IS NO NEWS EITHER FROM THIS SITE OR FROM TV
CHANNELS. IF INVESTORS GET A CHANCE TO WITHDRAW THE APP. THEN EVERY
THING IS ALL RIGHT. BUT WHAT IF UNFORTUNATELY THE LISTING HAPPENS ?
YOUR EXPERT COMMENTS PL