202. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 10:27:06 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Varun Beverages
even after 30 hours ... I am still uncertain ... the fact that the domestic mutual funds have given a pass to this issue (except Sundaram) is not at all encouraging ... also the GMP is quoted @10/- ... but no buyers ... only sellers ...
Hence, my inference is that ... this issue looks like only for long term ... not for IPO flippers
... I shall conclude my thoughts on this IPO later today ... after a closer review
And what about intrest of fii in anchor list ? Mam in parag milk all experts views, qib and hni subscription and gmp was against and till today it is trading in plus. Waitig for your reply for varun.
202.3. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 12:18:25 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Mudit Sir,
For your benefit ... I shall repeat ....
"My inference is that ... this issue looks like only for long term ... not for IPO flippers"
Now your turn to help me ... please tell me what was the issue price of Parag and what was the listing price ? ... and therefore was it a good item for IPO flippers ??
Mam lssue price of parag milk was 215, after discount 203 for retailers and listing price was 217.50. I did not have an expert knowledge but it gives 5 % listing gain after poor response by qib & hni and on listing day closing price was more high than listing price. Without any arguments I am quoting an example. so pl. take it as simple discussion not as comparison and serious debate.
202.5. COMMONMAN| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 2:39:44 PM
Top Contributor (300+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
I Believe In Sundaram Rural Fund Mnagaer Picks. His Fund Has Given Good Return Compared To Others. So VB Is Worth Taking Risk.
201. gamble| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 10:08:42 AM
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No confusion
139. gamble Oct 19, 2016 10:12:14 PM IST Reply PNB Housing Finance Ltd IPO
Avoid varun( check gmp before ipo date if above 45 then only apply for safer side)
PNBHF apply ( ignore gmp)
200. gamble| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 9:56:36 AM
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Nidhike sir u also change ur mind in varun like PNBHF or still firm ???
200.1. Nidhike| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 11:41:48 AM
Top Contributor (300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Believe this issue has been priced quite well . IMO all consumer stocks in past was also said to be pricey be it jubilant or manpasand or parag or prabhat but all given good.
One leading analysis report at the time of manpasand IPO was saying its drink is not like Pepsi or coke so its costly. now same report saying its not manpasand like drink n ppl avoiding carbonated drink so avoid Varun......sometimes stock price or GMP rule the mind and heart of analyst.
199. Septa| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 9:04:42 AM
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Varun is high risk IPO given it balance sheet and debt. So listing chance of discount is high. However i am going to apply both head and heart says skip . but my gut feeling is it will bumper IPO btw several times my gut feeling has given negative return. If capital is important and u cannot take a risk then my advice avoid if loss is not a issue then apply.
199.1. gamble| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 9:52:42 AM
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Great to hear sir. :-)
199.2. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 10:06:24 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Your comment ... "both head and heart says skip" ... "However I am going to apply" ... is very unlike you
Sir, a sincere submission... we are all humans ... it is okay to change our mind ... do not let your ego determine your investment decision
199.3. Septa| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 10:46:53 AM
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Eagleye that me.....Perfection is all about the ego however, Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything..... i have no issue change my mind.
199.4. Nidhike| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 11:43:36 AM
Top Contributor (300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
In this IPO I believe "Darrr Ke aage jeet hai". :) so apply!!!!!!
I think u r supposed to tell us ur view by today...!!
193.2. Septa| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 12:10:11 AM
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Eagleye i will apply also if HNI is not over subscribed more then 10 then i will apply in HNI category also if list at discount i will buy.
BTW a standard discloser equity is around 40% of total liquid investment and even if put a sizeable amount in VB it will still be between .25% less then 1% of liquid investment.
193.4. Nidhike| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 2:04:45 AM
Top Contributor (300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Suno Sab ki karo apun ki.....I m applying!!!!!!!
193.5. Chem cho| Link| Bookmark|
October 26, 2016 7:22:02 AM
IPO Guru (2600+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
No kick backs given by the company
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October 26, 2016 7:51:08 AM
IPO Guru (2600+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
SMALL CAP WORLD FUND
U.S. Equities40.9% Non-U.S. Equities51.1% U.S. Bonds0.3% Non-U.S. Bonds0.2% Cash & Equivalents37.5%
AMERICAN FUND BEST FUND IN AMERICA
ABUDAHBHI The Abu Dhabi Fund for Development (ADFD) is an autonomous foreign aid agency established by the government of Abu Dhabi in 1971. The fund provides concessionary loans to fund economic and social development projects. The fund also invests in order to expand and strengthen the private sector economies of its clients.[1]
MORGAN AND STANDELY
1.67M Service hours volunteered by Morgan Stanley employees
542 Cities with communities strengthened by our initiatives
39 Countries around the world benefiting from our global reach
American Fund and Small Cap World Fund are both Capital, one of the largest institutional investors in the world. Abu Dhabi Investment is what is called a managed account so difficult to understand who fund actually bought. Morgan Stanley is P Notes investor.
Small cap world.......20% American fund..........6.7% Abudabhi.....,.............12% Morgan stanely.........2% Merrillynch................8.16% NorDEa(all)...............20.4% Wasatch emeging india..,.......3.45% Chennai 007...............3.45% Sundram...............10.71% Stichting depositary.......13.02%
Well,,, if some one see this anchor book as a good then PNBHF''s anchor book consider as
Varun Beverages garners Rs 327-cr from anchor investors
Varun Beverages, PepsiCo''s largest franchise bottler, today raised over Rs 327 crore by allotting shares to anchor investors, a day ahead of its initial public offering opens for subscription.
The shares were alloted at Rs 445 apiece, which is the higher end of the price band of IPO.
Among the anchor investors are Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley and Small Cap World Fund.
"Under Anchor Investors (AIs) portion in the public issue of Varun Beverages, 73,50,000 equity shares have been subscribed today by 14 AIs at Rs 445 per equity share," BSE said in a circular.
The initial public offer of Varun Beverages, that entails sale of up to 2.5 crore shares, will open tomorrow and close on October 28.
The company has fixed the price band at Rs 440-445 per share. At the upper end, the firm company would raise Rs 1,112.50 crore through the offer.
Proceeds of the issue would be utilised for capital expenditure, repayment of loans and for other general corporate purposes.
The issue is being managed by Kotak Mahindra Capital Company, Axis Capital, CLSA India and YES Securities (India) Ltd.