The show appears to be rigged with the promoter slated to win it big time.... issue priced at EV/EBIDTA of little over 14 leaves investors with nothing but a hope against all hope which in modern day Hindi translates to '' Baba Ji Ka Thullu '' ...
. A blip in the price may come only with the onset of production from the newer facilities. But that will be it...There is no further visibility ... There is No economic moat here ..no monopoly or pricing power of any kind ...PepsiCo shall always have a clout and the power to decide the Co''s fate ... Not a pretty picture to see...
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October 28, 2016 1:03:47 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Varun Beverages Ltd.
Day 3 at 12:00noon
QIB*: 2.97X (*Excluding Anchor) NII : 0.22X Ret : 0.43X Emp : 0.02X Total : 1.08X
there will be big gamble pnb down n varun will be up in quick short time like manpasand beverages this will be guaranteed u all see...septa eagle eye nidhike
The soft drinks market in India is underdeveloped in terms of per capita consumption of 9.4 litres in 2015, when compared to the world average of 91.9 litres and the more mature U.S. market, with a per capita consumption of 347.3 litres CAGR of 18.2% by total volume from 2010 – 2015 so next five years the consumption will at least double.
Capacity line is 5 Billion Lts per annum so can increase production big time with out additional capital or minimum out lay
So based on this parameters i am happy to invest at Rs445
I am getting feeling that Varun listing will surprise every one...@eagleye what is max downside risk you see on listing? and what are long term prospects of this company?
I am applying in employees quota... that''s why confident that will get full allotment.... but confused abt listing price......please suggest......as today is last day.....want to go for 200000
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October 28, 2016 11:00:52 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
IPOs in the Pipeline
Which have got SEBI approval already
Hinduja Leyland Finance >>> DRHP date 29-Mar-16 CL Educate >>> DRHP date 30-Mar-16 Seaways Shipping and Logistics >>> DRHP date 28-Mar-16 GreenSignal Bio Pharma >>> DRHP date 04-Jul-16 Laurus Labs >>> DRHP date 19-Aug-16
Which are pending SEBI approval
Aster DM Healthcare >>> DRHP date 24-Jun-16 Sheela Foam >>> DRHP date 29-Jul-16 IRB InvIT Fund >>> DRHP date 07-Sep-16 BSE >>> DRHP date 09-Sep-16 Security & Intelligence Services >>> DRHP date 26-Sep-16 Genesis Colors >>> DRHP date 28-Sep-16 Shankara Building Products >>> DRHP date 28-Sep-16 Avenue Supermarts >>> DRHP date 29-Sep-16 G R Infraprojects >>> DRHP date 29-Sep-16 Prataap Snacks >>> DRHP date 30-Sep-16 Continental Warehousing Corp. >>> DRHP date 30-Sep-16
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October 28, 2016 11:05:19 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Which have got SEBI approval more than 6 months ago (hence considered not serious anymore)
K.P.R. Agrochem Nihilent Technologies New Delhi Centre for Sight GVR Infra Projects Maini Precision Products VLCC Health Care Sandhar Technologies Matrimony.com Paranjape Schemes (Construction) SSIPL Retail
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October 28, 2016 8:52:27 AM
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Few High profile private company or organisation which i like to come with IPO
COCA-COLA INDIA ( Warren buffet is the biggest share holder in the parent company so technically he is the biggest share holder in COCA-COLA INDIA) BCCI ( some analyst put it profit for 2016 at 1000 crs which is growing at 30% CAGR) LIC ( if listed this will be the biggest market cap company in india) HYUNDAI MOTOR INDIA ( biggest exporter of manufactured goods in india) GUJARAT COOP MILK MKTG (AMUL Asia''s largest milk brand however given it coop society bottom line is not that attractive ) PARLE PRODUCTS ( India''s largest manufacturer of biscuits and confectionery for almost 80 years.)
NSE BSE and VODAFONE these three will be going public soon
In the era of free pricing of issues, these companies also price their issues too high and issue huge bonus prior to issue,skim all the butter themselves.Gone are the days, when the share holders could make big money in ipos.
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October 28, 2016 10:38:04 AM
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October 28, 2016 7:56:57 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
in Varun .... we need 259,848 retail applications for 1X application wise
So, your broker is expecting 520,000 retail applications ... which might happen ... but how does that help us to make a decision weather to "apply open" or to "sell and apply"
Moreover, asking your broker for stock advise... is akin to ... asking your pharmacist for medical prescription ... he might be correct ... but it is a high risk gamble
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October 28, 2016 8:27:26 AM
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2x time app wise little bit more.... All put max in PNBHF...+ ...diwali... 1.5x ok...
MKT is all ""gamble"" Eagleye..
Us like Troops in game of COC.
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October 28, 2016 8:58:41 AM
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earlier i have made it clear Varun is high risk IPO however i am happy to take the risk. BTW i like ur pharmacist broker take :)
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October 28, 2016 9:01:12 AM
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Eagleye when u r feeling of uncertainty or lack of conviction on Varun better not apply. BTW kostak is only Rs 250.
I am going to apply
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October 28, 2016 1:08:16 AM
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not much GMP however if u look deep down till second total money on PNBHB was 1240 Crs
Varun on the other hand day two 794 Crs not bad even with all broker house negative on the issue
BTW i have already put my application left one to apply on HNI if the issue get subscribed below 15
this is i look at this 8000 cr MC on topline of 4000 cr this in few years will grown big time. all the thinking on buying may not get the chance fiis will lap this up in no time like what the did to other good stock
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October 28, 2016 1:18:43 AM
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actual i should have waited till day three if RII does not get full application for some reason like indigo then like indigo put full RII lot and one HNI. may be change before 3 pm cut off with my broker
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October 28, 2016 1:00:14 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Varun IPO
I have gone thru the RHP 3x but I still cannot figure out how to value this stock ... So I have decided to apply only if I can sell in kostak @450/- ... Otherwise not
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October 28, 2016 1:22:57 AM
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kostak is only Rs250 so u r not applying....
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October 28, 2016 1:32:44 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
After today''s bumper ... I expect some momentum to build up for Varun too ... but I shall definitely not go open in this IPO ... will only apply if I can sell 100% in kostak ... and that too @450+