VA Tech Wabag Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 76)

Dear Sreedhar,SJ,Gem IPO,Mukul & other friends

This Career Point IPO seems to be another concept stock backed by PE players need to be care fully evaluated.This could be another Educomp/Everonn due to huge demand for its services. |
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Company is promoted by IIT Delhi Graduate Mr maheshwari & backed by reputed PE players. After the IPO the co will move to different orbit.

After the VAtech this is the 2nd best IPO amongst the current lot.Indo Solar could be an avoid as the solar energy sector has lost its fancy due to heavy losses n discontinuance of subsidy in Europe.

Srini,
Today 3 stocks were cum-bonus.They are Bajaj auto,Dabur & TVS.All 3 will go exbonus tomorrow.Those who buy tomorrow will not get any bonus shares.All the 3 stocks have runup before exdate so all 3 have high probability of falling tomorrow.I have shorted Bajaj auto future infact today & will cover later.

gane,
Price band not yet decided.

Shreedhar,

What is the expected price band for careerpoint? any idea?

Gane.

Dear GEM & SJ
thanks a lot for making us 'aware" of future shocks
sincere thank you to both of you.
i have learnt a lot form your post.
milinds

Sreedhar career point is also giving bank clerical, po and ugc net training to the candidates. My cousin have taken coaching for his ugc net exam in chandigarh and now he has cleared ugc(jrrf)and getting jrf from ugc.This business has unlimited growth prospectus. It could be another educomp.This is a type of share which will not be available in market after listing.

Friends,
As informed in the morning post,Career point is coming next week with its 115 Cr Issue.A company having bright prospects & a nice Issue to apply.
Check this-------------------------------------------

7 Sep, 2010, 08.21PM IST,PTI
CPIL to raise Rs 115 crore via IPO


MUMBAI: Kota-based Career Point Infosystems Ltd (CPIL) plans to raise Rs 115 crore through initial public offer (IPO) to partially finance its expansion of classroom infrastructure and office facility.

Career Point Infosystems is a tutorial services provider to high school and post high school students for various competitive entrance examinations, including All India Engineering Entrance Examination, Indian Institute of Technology - Joint Entrance Examination and All India Pre-Medical and Pre-Dental Test.

The company is entering the capital market early next week, with a public issue of equity shares of Rs 10 each for cash at a price to be determined through a 100 per cent book building process.

"We plans to utilise Rs 68.25 crore on construction of an integrated campus facility, Rs 16.48 crore on expansion of classroom infrastructure and office facility and Rs 15 crore has been earmarked for acquisitions and other strategic initiatives," CPIL's CEO, Pramod Maheshwari told reporters here.
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Hi gem ipo finder,
At last good to see your portfolio, lot of investment, hope you will get good profits in future.

DABANG

MY PORTFOLIO IS AS UNDER

1) JET AIRWAYS @ IPO / 1100 4 YRS AGO
2) SATYAM @81 2 DAYS AGO
3) ADANI POWER @ IPO / 100 1 YR AGO
4) GODAWARI POWER @ 170 5-6 MONTHS AGO
5) SJVN @ IPO / 24.7 3 MONTHS AGO
6) NHPC @ IPO /36 1.5 YR AGO
7) OIL INDIA @ IPO /1050 1 YR BACK
8) REC @ IPO / 105 2 YR BACK
9) PFC @ IPO / 165 ? 3 YR BACK
10) MUNDRA PORT @ IPO / 440 4 YRS BACK
11) UNITED BANK @ IPO /63
12) CENTRAL BANK @ IPO
13) GSPL @ 90 3 MONTHS AGO
14) IDEA @ IPO / 70 3 YRS BACK
15) PUNJ LLOYD @ 130 1 MONTH AGO
16) BAJAJ CORP @ IPO/ 660
17) ITNL @ IPO / 258
18) GLOBUS SPIRIT @ 83 @ 8-9 MONTHS AGO
19) VENKYS @ 235, I WAS TRACKING IT FROM 120, I BOUGHT 2 YRS AFTER TRACKING, BECAUSE IT HOLDS SHARES IN LAVASA IPO

I GENERALLY DONT KEEP THE SHARES FOR LIFE LIKE WARREN BUFFET, I NEVER HAD MULTIBAGGERS MORE THAN 4 TIMES,IF I SEE GOOD PROFIT I MOVE OUT OF THE STOCK ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT THE STOCK WILL SURE MOVE UP BUT I EXIT.

MY EXITS IN LAST ONE YR HAS BEEN -

NTPC @ 217
ARSS @ 700
JUBLIANT @ 200
COX @ 500
INFINITE @ 229
SKS @ 1150
EIL @ 330
TALWALKERS @ 185
FORTIS @ 185
DB CORP @ 255
MAN INFRA @ 390
PERSISITENT @ 435
INTRASOFT @ 165
ETC

Dear Gem IPO Finder,

I always appriciate your inputs on this site.
Your inputs regarding "WHY PEOPLE LOOSE MONEY IN STOCK MARKET" are great.

I always wanted to know your present INVESTMENT portfolio in the secondary market. OR what are you betting on these days for investment (not TRADING).

I am in the stock market for last 4 years. I have made a very good return from the secondary market in last 3-4 years. Infact, I get a many of ideas after discussions / inputs from others.

Please share the stocks you are presently invested in.

THANKS.

Markets will keep on going to panic buying levels now.

If 6000-6200 on the nifty comes dont be suprised.

Valuations and fundamentals will be done and dusted.

And people sitting with plush cash will now enter.

This is the last leg of the current world bear market rally.

India is in a long term bull market.

Its growth rate is expected to supersede China in the next 5 years provided the same Congress or BJP government minus the left is in power.

It may be affected in slowdowns and that is the ideal time to buy stocks.

US is in a long term bear market for the next decade.

So when world environment is panicky and depressed buy stocks in India at cheap 10-12 Sensex PE.

Since so many people are talking about double dip and are bearish. Double dip may not happen now.

Crashes happen not when you are wary of it but when you are in complete denial and hyper bullish.

This is the same thing that happened in 2007 second half.

US corrected from 14000 peaks but India jumped to all time highs in 2007.

And then when defaults started it corrected sharply.

First half of 2011 will start the beginning of another depression and not recession in Developed economies due to write-offs of Option ARMs and ALt-A loans come due.

2008 was just a trailer of things to come.

Some money junkies aka bookies called analysts in US call it a jobless recovery and we have bottomed in 2008.

Well US has not yet bottomed out in credit defaults build since the last 30 years of consumption and overspending boom.

So keep on buying India in crashes coz external shocks will keep coming...where FIIs will liquidate.

If you regreted that you missed the lows of 2008 or early 2009 and want to enter now to be the last man standin in the storm...when it comes.

PLEASE REFRAIN. Trade and keep on booking profits at higher levels.

Dont enter now for long term investments. You will get ample chances.

GOVT/SEBI SAYS SMALL INVESTOR IS WELL PROTECTED !!!!!

Let us check out some history of investor protection. It is quite nice to see what history has to teach. The only thing that history teaches is ‘you cannot learn from history’. LOL. This is because the ‘small investor’ – I have 3 names for this person:
a. Voluntary contributor to the broker welfare fund,


Happy that I did not let my CA degree did not let me join the ‘intellectuals’ (you need a MA from JNU, DSE or a Journalist tag) or a PhD in ‘Why there were 22 columns in the share transfer form’. Happy to be a part of the small investor


b. Caretaker of the bear market: He buys a share at Rs. 10 watches it go down to Rs. 3. Then after 3 years he sells it for Rs. 10 and puts the money in national savings certificate. He is happy that he did not lose money.

c. The victim of the bear story (story is excellent, but cannot be put on this site).

MARKET IS VERY STEPLY PRICED AT THE 5600 LEVELS, HERE ARE SOME RISK I CAN SEE-

Risk No. 1: No fund manager is talking about interest rates going up. Ben Bernanke who thinks all problems can be solved by keeping interest low will have a problem.

Risk No. 2: We ignore what we want t ignore: When Dubai happened, we said Dubai is not US. When Greece happened, we said Greece is not US. When Spain happened we said…When the Red Shirts disturbed Thailand, we said Thailand is not India. Dubai, Greece, Spain are symptoms of a world living beyond its means. One day it will catch up. We are all hoping when the music stops, the parcel will not be in our hand.

Risk No. 3: Throwing US currency from being the ‘reserve’ currency will be bloody. The US thinks the rest of the world owes it a living.

Risk No. 4: We think India is insulated from all this. We are not. Our luck is which ever currency is strong, there will be enough Indians working there and remitting money from there. Thank God for Keralites, Sindhis, Punjabis, Gujaratis, and Tamilians – and their wandering spirit!

Risk No. 5: Thinking that only the above 4 risks matter.

Risk No. 6: Thinking all risks will be nicely tabulated and given to you in a website. I call this the MBA power-point solution – problem.

Risk No. 7: The risk that will get your net-worth down is not listed here from 1 to 6. It is your behavior when the market is up or when the market is down. Investor behavior is much worse than Market behavior.

WHY PEOPLE LOOSE MONEY IN STOCK MARKET ( I COPIED FROM A WEBSITE)


Of course there are many reasons, here is an attempt to find some of them:

1. Over-Confidence: It is quite shocking to see how people over estimate their ability to pick up stocks. This in face of their portfolio staring at them from one of the websites!

2. Over-Confidence: People who have heard ‘In the long run, equity shares out perform other asset classes’ without understanding average returns, CAGR, standard deviation, or other statistical measures. Many of them have not seen the data to understand what this means, so they will continue to ‘build’ their portfolios by picking up shares of by ‘knowing’ which fund scheme to pick.

3. Paying too much for growth: A company with hardly any profits but part of the ‘India growth story’ is a great buy! But dull dividend paying companies like Colgate, Gillette, Procter and Gamble look ‘too expensive’. To me it seems to be they look ‘dull and boring’ or another great ‘knowledge’ that everything is in the price. Growth is over rated and terribly expensively priced.

4. Not diversified enough: Not understanding what it is to diversify they pick up a bunch of mutual funds – overall there is hardly any diversification. Thank God for some compulsory provident fund – or that money would have gone into ‘building’ more diversified equity assets.

5. Over and Hyper activity: needs no explanation. Too many brokers, too many advisers, media – all encouraging to trade take their toll. So here is a big group of voluntary donors to the brokers welfare fund. Look at brokerage balance sheets – you will know what I mean!

6. Paying too much for advice without knowing that they are paying too much!

Dear Gem,

TVS MOTORS today i buy 600 share @ 148,,,,i hope eligible for bonus share.

and same for

DABUR INDIA today i buy 250 share @ 214,,,,,,for bonus purpose...

HOPE bonus share is elibigle for both.

SMA

U WILL GET THE SHARES.

ONE THING U KEEP IN MIND IN CASE OF BONUS DATES,TILL THE SHARE IS TRADING CUM - BONUS MEANS PRICE HAS NOT YET ADJUSTED ( RS. 150 FOR TVS ) IF U BUY IT HERE U R ELIGIBLE FOR BONUS ON THE OTHER HAND IF IT STARTS TRADING EX- BONUS ( RS 75 ) IF U BUY AT THAT PRICE U WILL NOT GET THE BONUS SHARE.

Dear Gem,

TVS Motors, bonus 1:1 Ex-bonus 08/09/2010 and record date 09/09/2010, today 07/09/2010 buying can eligible for bonus share????
please do needful reply.

Setuji, where are you today.Anyway i think you might be busy in important work today.We are not able to read your important views today.Hoping for a come back soon.I am sure that you will not leave your friends like that.

SMA

i could not understand ur qstn,

if 9 th is th record date u can buy on 7 for bonus, the shre will trade ex-bonus from 8 th at a price 110/2 = 55, IN MONEY TERM U WILL NOT RECIEVE ANYTHING THE PRICE OF THE SHARE WILL BE ADJUSTED TO THE EXTENT OF BONUS GIVEN


SMA Sep 07, 2010 12:09:42 PM IST
VA Tech Wabag Limited


Dear RAJIVJAIN & GEM IPO FINDER & All Friends,
Thank you for your for your kind reply.

Please need your help to clear
The company has set 9 September 2010 as the record date for a liberal 1:1 bonus issue. The stock turns ex-bonus on Wednesday, 8 September 2010. (if i buy the said bonus share today, then, it will affect Bonus to my account) and suppose Share value 110 then bonus will count + 110 (1:1)

Please do needful, and waiting for your kind reply.
Best regards

HI ,SHREEDHERBHAI & GEM IPO FINDER

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