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379. Srini |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2010 8:48:25 AM (400+ Posts)
369 @ Anonymous,

First of all why you are not coming with your real name, why you are hiding it, so you are scared of something else.

Secondly none of the IPO's you mentioned were grade 4, either grade 3 or 2, I cannot comment on grey market premium cause I was not into share market at that time, who said DB reality QIB has subscribed heavily, its 4.4679 times only and regarding greymarket crash lets see on Monday whether you are true are just bluffing, suppose even though greymarket premium has crashed to 100 also we will get minimum profit. Also when it is listed at discount or when it is lower than the issue price, why cant you exit with minimal loss.
378. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2010 8:05:26 AM
Va tech, Asoka, Tecpro all 4 rated companies, more than 45 rating by capital market, business line recomened all ipo. 30 to 50% profit conform invest all ipo it is life time chance.
377. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2010 7:12:39 AM
Income Tax Department is planning to issue notices to the assessees applying for IPOs above a certain limit of funds. The department is of the opinion that during this peak period of IPOs where a dozen IPOs are running at a time, many investors will use their black money for applying IPOs. Those applying for multiple IPOs at the same time will be under the scanner of the Department.

Advice : use genuine funds only and apply to the limits of your self. dont strech your investment capacity when there are many IPOs at time. If possible, avoid applying for multiple ipos at a time, apply for one best ipo only at a time not in all. this will protect you from market risk as well as Income Tax scrutiny risk. an additional application will fetch only rs. 2000 per person but can cost you several thousands when scrutinised by the Income Tax Department.

CA R Jain
376. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2010 6:50:55 AM
SEBI TO CHORO KI DUKAAN HO GAYI HAI AUR CB BHAVE UNAKA SARDAAR. ALIBABA AUR CHALIS CHOR.
ON ONE HAND BHAVE SAYS LEAD MANAGERS TO KEEP GOOD INVESTORS FRIENDLY PRICES AND ON THE OTHER SIDE HE ALLOWS THIS TYPE OF COMPANIES TO HAVE PRICE BAND OF RS. 1310 FOR A SHARE OF RS. 5 ONLY. MORE THAN 2.5 TIMES OF RELIANCE.

JAB INVESTORS PIT JAAYENGE TO USAKE BAAD KAUN UNAKA GHATA BHAREGA.

375. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2010 6:46:57 AM
WHEN ALL GOOD COMPANIES HAVE EMPLOYEE QUOTA WHY THIS COMPANY IS NOT HAVING ANY SUCH QUOTA.

SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG GUYS.
374. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2010 6:44:13 AM
yeh ipo around 1400 list hoga. yaani rs. 90 ka munaafa. 75 shares per application ke hissab se 6750 ka profit. kya lagata hai. i have strong news of rs. 90 profit per share. any news?
373. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2010 6:33:57 AM
Dear All
when all the high price IPOs like SKS Engineer etc gave 5% discount why this Company not giving and such discount even when it is issuing shares of just rs. 5 at as high as rs. 1310.

Bajaj Corp did not give this discount and i got a very less return of less than 2000 per application. I dont understand why SEBI does not look over pricing of IPOs.
372. jeetshah |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2010 12:33:02 AM
dearsetuji,

Hope,you must have recd my email today noon regarding your advise on ipo .kindly refer my post @268 & reply accordingly.
May I expect some words from you in this connection?
Please please reply soon.

Jeet shah
371. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 26, 2010 12:04:07 AM
VA TECH IS A FINE PACKAGING STORY WITH ALL DEFECTS BEAUTIFULLY REPAIRED JUST LIKE A MARRIAGE OF AN UGLY GIRL.

IF THE COMPANY IS SO TECHNOLOGY SAVVY N AHEAD OF ITS COMPETITORS WHY ARE THE NET PROFIT MARGIN SO LOW AT 4%? IF THE CO HAS TO TAKE ANY LOAN IN FUTURE THESE MARGINS WILL BE WIPED OUT.

WHY DOES IT OPERATES AT SO LOW MARGINS IF ITS A MNC OPERATING IN 13 COUNTRIES.

INVESTORS IF AT ALL U WANT TO APPLY THEN DO SO AT LOWER PRICE BAND.

REMEMBER THE ADAGE BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.
370. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 11:58:36 PM
BREAKING NEWS GMP OF VA TECH CRASHES TO 120 RS WITH VERY FEW TRADES.
WHAT CUD BE THE REASON BEHIND THE GMP CRASHING.

CANTABIL CAN BE A BETTER BET ON PURE EPS & PE BASIS.CANTABIL PE IS PALTRY 7 WHILE VA TECH IS 30 ON EPS OF 44.NPM ARE EXTREMELY LOW AT 4% WHILE SUNDRY DEBTORS ARE 600 CRORES.

WHAT IF SMALL PORTION OF THESE DEBTOR TURN INTO NPA AS NET PROFIT IS ONLY 44 CRORES ODD ON A TURNOVER OF 1000 CRORES.ENTIRE NET PROFIT WILL BE WIPED OUT N THE COMPANY WILL TURN INTO LOSS.

NET PROFIT IN 2009 WAS ONLY AROUND 9 CRORES WHICH SHOT UP TO 40-50 CRORES JUST BEFORE IPO.ISNT SOMETHING FISHY?
369. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 11:47:56 PM
every ipo which have gud rating r giving minimum 20% on the opening day be it bajaj corp,sks,prakash or anyother ipo...this is a gud company maximum brokarage nhouse r tellin ppl to apply.QIB sub is high.
here on this site ppl r talkin about how expensive the ipo is compare to pear group bt gud company's always demand premium bro.LNT HDFC BHEL RIL INFY TCS TATA's every single script is expensive compare to other pear group companies then too we pay high price for them this company is nt new n already in the business with gud profitable business.

so i think its worth applying n if the market is gud then we can gt gud returns from this IPO too as we r expecting in other IPO.
368. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 11:47:07 PM
RS. 5 FACE VALUE ISSUE PRICE 1310
SOCH SAMAJH KAR LAGANA VARNA ......
367. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 11:43:24 PM (400+ Posts)
Gane

too much diversification is injurious to health

This is not Diwala ka phatakkaa ke phuljadi bhi achha laga to phuljaddi kharid liya ladddi bum bhi le liya rocket bhi le liya seven sound bumm bhi le liya.

Diversify less for maximum gain

Meri baat maan


Go only for exclusive theme based IPOs like SKS Jubiliant


So go for

2 lots Va tech

2 lots Cantabill (india's first large scale discount retail brand in the making)

2 lots of Va tech....(i dont need to tell you why...? )


Ashoka has alternative in C&C construction and IRB infra

Tech pro i am not so excited about

may be if someone give me good logic i can listen but the study till now i have done

and the alternative

in va tech and cantabill i have

techpro is not that exciting


Regards


P.S. This is just my view. You should do what your mind says your intution says
366. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 11:41:07 PM
qib rpower subscribed 80 times.
qib ibpower subscribed 44 times

rpower had 5 star rating highest ever had by an indian company.
hathway cable cable had 3 star rating.

ratings are for fundamentals not for pricing. SKS was good at rs. 1000 but if SKS would have come at 2000 then also rating was 4 if 5000 then also rating was 4. rating does not mean pricing is good.

this watak was coming with a price of rs. 1000 now after seeing good last listings has decided to give price of rs 1310.

this will loot you, this will kooot you.

beware dont go by QIB or HNI.

this comapny does not have any employee quota. why?
this company declared ipo in this month only where there is already 12-15 ipos, why?
no retail discount why?
price band declared very late why?

think first and then take decision. koot ke rakh dega.

sabko water-water (paani-paani) kar dega.
sabki hawa sant ho jaayegi. bazzar 6000 nifty plus hai bahur peak hai.

babarimaszid - ram temple case is also there.

kanhin koot na de.
kanhi loot na le.
365. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 11:35:51 PM
Srini

so you believe in greater fool theory & are confident of finding a greater foll than your self.

BEST OF LUCK TO YOU BUT WHAT IF YOU ARE THE LAST FOOL

REMEMBER INDIABULLS POWER, DB REALTY ,NHPC WHERE ALSO QIB RESPONSE WAS GREAT N GMP WAS HEAVY BEFORE IPO CLOSED N EVEN ANCHOR INVESTORS PARTICIPATED. BUT WHERE IS THE PRICE NOW.

GMP OF VA TECH HAS CRASHED HEAVILY TODAY WITH NO BUYERS AT 280. FEW DAYS BACK DEALS WERE BEING DONE AT 360-350

SUNO SABKI KARO MANKI .BUYERS BEWARE
364. Gane |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 11:34:28 PM (400+ Posts)
Gem & SJ,

I am planning to go for 1 full application each in asoka, vatech, techpro and cantabil. What is your suggestion?

Thanks.
Gane.
363. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 11:00:40 PM
There is an old saying in corporate circles. One should raise money when it is available rather when it is needed. And no one would understand the wisdom behind this simple homily better than a clutch of real estate companies in India. These companies, almost a dozen of them, have been itching to hit the IPO market for quite some time now. However, their plans are presently being scuttled by a combination of high real estate prices and rising mortgage rates.

Most of these companies want to raise money and invest in new projects. But they already hold quite a bit of inventory. Besides, lowering prices too much may not be an option as land prices are setting new records every day. It isn't that there isn't demand for real estate. Government data has estimated India's housing shortfall to be as much as 26.5 m units. Almost 90% of this requirement is in the mid-to affordable segment, consisting of homes costing less than Rs 3 m. It is just that the developers and the buyers do not see eye to eye with respect to pricing on most occasions. And sadly, no solution seems to be in sight.
362. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 10:51:08 PM
PLEASE SPARE TWO MINUTES AND DIGEST THIS

SEBI chairman Mr. C.B. Bhave is a man on a mission. Especially, when it comes to protecting the rights of investors. And in his latest move, he has slammed investment bankers for robbing investors. This is for pricing initial public offers (IPOs) at astronomical valuations. More so, when the anguish of investors will deepen, in case there is a correction in the stockmarkets.

There have been a slew of IPOs that have hit the markets in the past one week. All of these are looking to capitalise on the buoyancy prevalent in the markets that have crossed the 20,000 mark for the first time since January 2008. Many of the promoters are looking to garner the best possible price for their stakes.

And this has caught the ire of Mr. Bhave. This is what he has to say, "In a bid to maximise returns for promoters, they (investment bankers) are not looking at the interests of investors. You need to introspect whether it is a healthy practice. If you keep investors disappointed day in and day out, the cause of investors will only be a lip service."

We could not have agreed with him more. Investors should not fall for the gimmick that a rise in the number of IPOs means that stockmarkets are going to rise further. It is in times such as these, that investors will have to keep a cool head and not get carried away with all the noise. Valuations of not just IPOs but all stocks will have to be given a good, hard look. Only if they are available at attractive prices, should an investor then choose to put his money in them. This is of course, when all other parameters such as strong financials and good management also pass the test.
361. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 10:47:53 PM
I have applied for VA Tech Wabag IPO using SBI's ASBA, after successful bidding I am unable to edit for Increase stocks or to Remove/Delete.

Could you pls guid me.
360. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | September 25, 2010 10:45:48 PM
hi I am unable to edit VA Tech Wabag ASBA application, could you pls guide me