Ujjivan Financial Services Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 9)

I support the views of Eagleye, Septa and others who stands firm on what they said about Ujjivan. I am not an expert in stock markets, hence I don''t suggest others in this group to follow my words or blaming me later. Here People are opining on IPOs based on some facts, future prospectus and sometimes even based on some logic, things go right or wrong, here some people are experts, some pose as experts and few are new to markets. But money is yours, you need to take due care before investing and don''t blame others.

On Ujjivan, people who invested for listing gains or very short term players can book their profits / loss and get last, this stock is for medium to long term investments and really can create huge profits if everything goes well. It mat touch 300 in current or next month, 400 by year end and 1000 by 3+ years from now. However, there will be pressure on earnings after becoming bank for at least 1 year due to investments on IT, People and transition, regulatory compliance. This fact was told openly by none other than Ujjivan''s MD, any management should have guts to tell this and only a confident and transparent management will speak openly like this. Wish you all good luck

Listing and post listing of both scrips Thyrocare and Ujjivan are totally opposite in direction and part of traders game plan .

I would like to ask about Alkem labs.
It is touching regularly lower levels since last months.
Trailing 12M EPS is 63/-. Considering d same stock is presently available at 19 PE, which is so cheap compared with peers.
It has to be noted that 70% of Revenue of Alkem comes from within India, which can be considered safe amid USFDA warnings.
In addition , it had 45 ANDA filiings with USFDA awaiting approval.
Having track record of double digit growth Rate in past.
Despite it is falling regularly. I had purchased it @1250 , again @1200 yesterday.
Am i missing something , which i am not aware about this fall or it is operator driven.
Please reply Septa and RKS sir. I am willing to average it more, if it falls further.

Yes RKS sir, Alkem story is remains intact. Overhang in Alkem is probably due to FDC based drugs bans by Indian drug regulator but as business standard says , there is impact of only 150 crore in top line on annual basis , which is meagre 3-4% of total turnover.
It have all potential to become tomorrow lupin or Dr Reddy. Alkem is household name through its various well known medicine, i.e. sumo.

1 more thing, Alkem will hv a robust dividend policy in future. Why i am saying that, Alkem hv scattered promoter base. They hv a big family of promoters , holding shares from 0.5% to 6-7% and due to this strong and scattered promoter base, they will certainly declare healthy dividends in future for their personal needs and that will also benefit Retail investors.
However its IPO came in an uncertain environment for pharma sector due to USFDA and other regulatory issues and it provides an opportunity to us to enter at such a cheap valuation (lower PE multiple) and be a part of an very likely future success.

Thanx all

Next IPO?

No IPO declared yet amid falling interest in Parag milk foods and unexpected listing of thyrocare and ujjivan.

PS:
Now lead managers are busy in convincing through closed door meeting with promoters of upcoming IPO companies for reduction in offer price.


Ha ha ha

EAGLEYE ITS VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND YOUR POST WHEN U SAID BUY THYROCARE AT 650 IT MEANS PEOPLE SHOULD SELL AT 650 WHEN U SAID UJJIVAN MUST REACH 275 MEANS NEVER REACH 275

The quality of posting made by mehul ji speaks something else, what he is pretending as CA.
However anyone can say that , fundamentally ujjivan is better placed than Equitas.
PAN india presence, more experienced management, better DII holding level and much more still it is available at discount than Equitas.

It surely outpace/ level Equitas in Mcap terms and we r witnessing d same since 2nd day of listing. It is making higher top higher bottom on daily basis.

Regarding Thyrocare, everyone knows that, it is not at par with Dr. Lal but it will certainly reach the level of 750. I m holding thyrocare for 750 target and it may not take much time to reach at that level.

India is a consumption driven economy , not like developed nations where growth is stagnant.

Daily 3 lacs child born in india and they cant live without consumption, They cant live without medical facilities, they cant live without financial services. So India is growing economy. Here volume and price growth , both factors are available for better placed companies.

Mehul bhai ko intraday loss laga h Thyrocare ke listing ke din isliye thoda frustrate h.
bought @ 650 and sell @ 623.

In this wk we see lot of abuse by fake id,here i give one suggestio to controler of this site,passward must be set on any membar PAN NO.this will help protect form fake person n comments.all senior,expart.follower member give their opinion.

Thousand of pan no already known here., also no one can ask for pan or adhar number excluding govt org. Also lot of rural people have no pan , so empty mind or empty works always unfruitfull

Monday ujjivan will open gap up rs3,day tgt 259.it is my opinion.

Do you want to sell or waiting to buy

@Khamkaji ,i m holding 1400,now above view for day trading

Some one had told that in this forum that better to book profit and re enter again.
I would like to quote here a comment of todays interview of Gautam sinha Roy, star fund manager of MoSt Mutual Fund.
It is easy to say book profit but can we know the bottom of a stock. We cant predict this.
One may sale a stock, in anticipation of getting it lower but it may be possible that u may not get the same at any level.

If 1 think for selling eicher motors at lower level, he may not be able to get it again.
Same is with ujjivan, i had placed bid @225 per share since second day of listing but not able to get it.

Again repeating it is better placed than other MFIs who r holding SFB licence due to same sector experienced management and pan india presence and hv all ability to become tomorrow Kotak mahindra , indus ind and Yes bank

Well said.

Thanks RKS sir

Agree with eagleye today vwap 249.70

MORE DELIVERY VOLUMES MEANS STOCK GO UP AND THEN GO DOWN

Your use of the English Language Grammar is of a much higher level than mine ... I am quite confused ... May you please explain what you meant by your earlier posting ...

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mehul mehta May 10, 2016 12:24:45 PM IST
Ujjivan Financial Services Ltd IPO

when eagleye said gmp of parag 2 to 4 rs means that it will list at discount in thyro it said it buy at 650 means sell at 650 and ujjivan he sell at 260 level

:-).

Ujjivan IPO

Deliverable Volume (NSE+BSE)

10-May      16,538,519
11-May      1,780,423
12-May      2,272,064
13-May      3,400,882

Total      23,991,888

It is very encouraging to note that Delivery Volume is going higher & higher since past 3 days.

And more importantly,

The Volume Weighted Average Price (VWAP) is also higher on each day post listing.


Inviting comments on these observations...

Deliverable quantity data needs to be analyzed along with the share price. When the share price of the stock goes up along with the higher percent of deliverable quantity to traded quantity, it indicates bullishness in the share as most buyers are expecting the share price to go up.
Similarly, when the share price of the stock is moving down with higher percent of deliverable quantity to traded quantity, it indicates bearishness in the share as most sellers are expecting the share price to go down.

according to my observation it menace good chance of break out.

generally delivery volumes of new listed equity is in decreeing tread.

yesterday market was in red still stock touch new high with good volumes and close at high level,
it shows buying from big players.
it should open 2-3% plus Monday. n good chance of 300 price in 4-5 month...

more over total ipo size is 2.85 cr shares (excluding anchor investor)
day 1 1.65 cr share(60% of total ipo )
day 4 0.34 cr share(12% of ipo size)

i think there is big cornering of shares in this counter...

So suno sbki kro mann ki

True but money is urs n so should d decision b. So Dat u cannot blame others.

1172. sp.ahm May 12, 2016 11:02:29 AM IST Reply
Just hold ujjivan. Range is becoming narrower, it will soon blast

in 2011 crisis had happened in Andhra Pradesh only.. SKS is geographically not diversified.. However, Ujjivan is geographically diversified.. so there are least chances of such crisis in the case of Ujjivan

Yes. True but some political risk will always be there.

All three hold good potential : Equitas / Thyrocare / Ujjvan
Worth the hold for another 15 - 20 days atleast

Ujjvan and equitas should be holded. Defnitely

Ujjivan now 251 , still holding
62. Khemka May 10, 2016 10:41:37 AM IST Reply
Ujjivan Financial Services Ltd IPO

This is not for sell share , married to it for long term . Its market leader seems may surpass sks

Rightly said...

People who r advising to trade in this stock n book profits are making charlie out of people. This stock one should hold for lifetime. It would be a multibagger. Remember, holding good companies for long term can give u multifold returns. Some people hand in glove with a nuisance called Mr Tip have created enough panic n confusion on few of the recently listed stocks. So u can imagine how much u can trust their views. Talking of someone called Mr Cho. Someone asked him if he tracks HCL. N what was his reply. He doesn''t monitor such a stock. U can imagine how good he is. Even a layman will tell u about HCL.

Khemka improve huh... Ya aadat hei bark Kearney ki.

As far as getting blocked is concerned. I don''t mind speaking my mind out to people like u khemka. However, I m trying to avoid but of all the people besides Mr Cho r hell bent in provoking strong reaction from my side. But I will still avoid it. Because I have learnt a lesson from u all. Never stoop to ur IQ.

my target of rs 248.85 is almost near todays high of rs 248.5 , today should trade not above 248.85 and low of rs 240 for today , have you booked some profit today at 248.5
thanks for trading

lol it crossed 250 also

This is a bit off topic...

What will be the implications of tax treaty with Mauritius on the share market??

Come 2017 will there be a massive selloff by those entities resulting in stock market crash?

Will Finance ministry with help of DII and LIC migitate that crash??

How should retailers like us deal with this..

Please reply

It is a relevant question. Yesterday market has taken the news in its stride, and same will be the case going forward. FII are here to stay. 7.5% capital gain tax is not going to drive them away. The global scenario if you see, European and Asian central Banks are in a monetary easing mode because of lack of growth. US Fed is also in no hurry to increase interest rates. So, money will go where there is a chance of good returns not withstanding a small tax. It is also high time tax evasions and murky deals are stopped. A good move by the Government. Also read interview with big bull Jhunjunwala in Money control.com

Hello Chitra, Thanks for reference.. Its a good read...
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/market-outlook/end-son-in-law-treatment-for-fiis-india-no-africa-jhunjhunwala_6615161.html

Hello Ipo tracker, You are correct.. Here is the link.. it covers only shares
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/amended-india-mauritius-tax-treaty-only-covers-investments-in-shares/articleshow/52246626.cms