1215.1. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2016 7:13:42 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
What is there to ask anybody ... If you observe the data ... it speaks for itself ...
Today was the sixth trading day since Ujjivan is listed and ... 1) everyday the delivery volume is robust .... at ~40% of the traded volume 2) everyday the VWAP has been higher than the previous day ...
Day 1 ... 10th May ... VWAP was ... 234.55 Day 2 ... 11th May ... VWAP was ... 235.68 Day 3 ... 12th May ... VWAP was ... 240.42 Day 4 ... 13th May ... VWAP was ... 249.70 Day 5 ... 16th May ... VWAP was ... 256.38 Day 6 ... 17th May ... VWAP was ... 259.31
1215.3. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2016 7:52:36 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Similar observations for Equitas:
10th May ... VWAP was ... 141.61 11th May ... VWAP was ... 142.26 12th May ... VWAP was ... 146.42 13th May ... VWAP was ... 146.55 16th May ... VWAP was ... 148.75 17th May ... VWAP was ... 148.89
This is all true VWAP %VAR delivery volumes But traders play differently they trap u when u start trusting from above values Then comes insider rigging and entrapment Ujjivan subscribed 40 times and was available 6.65 premium on day one I exited from ujjivan today while going down @257 earning profit of 1.2 lac Now should I enter again ? Traders School of thought....?
All said and good. Info is indeed good....... But Question remains same..... movement is not as much as expected w.r.t. subscription and zeal in these ipo window. These IPOs are crawling. I think they are going like Elephant or Tortoise.
I feel these 3 ipos - ujjivan, equitas, thyrocare - not doing as expected by many people here.
Equitas looks like does not move much coz, it is almost a month since it is being listed- It has not moved much either way to give either to book profit or buy on dips. I feel no one had booked good profit in this ipo
Then Ujjivan, though it is much better than Equitas in terms of PE, RoE multiples etc, and also with huge subscription it is not going as per other IPOs in past with similar subscription. I had poor listing too despite huge subscription. May be it is bit early to comment about this ipo, as it is just 1 week since it got listed.
Same is the case with Thyro. Huge subscription but not moving at all either way. Just hovering with +/- Rs 5 to 10.
I m hugely disspointed with these IPOs movement. Of course, i can/will hold it for more longer period but the movement of shares is quite fishy when we see their subscription and enthusiasm in the counter. they are not in sync.
simple hype to loot investor money i think.
Also, it would be good if some expert here tell me how HNIs get money. HNIs usualy invest in crores or at least in lakhs and they usually drive the market, and they usually get good returns. In that case, why HNIs bid in IPO to just sell it when listed. Allotment ratio for them is so poor i feel they get maximum 1 lot and on that they can book hardly 3 to 5 thousands rupees, which is peanut for those monsters. I dont know what is the logic. Cud any1 tell the logic behind it???
Any way not happy with these IPOs especially with their price movemnt. Hugely disspointed.
All 3 IPO''s have given good return, if anybody got it in IPO price. Those people who have bought it after listing have not gained much except incase of Ujjivan. If you calculate from the IPO price then within a month Thyocare - 41% gain Ujjivan - 23% gain Equitas - 35% gain
I feel no one gains handsomely... Neither HNI, nor Retailer. I am not sure about QIBs. But there are lot of enthusiasm.
Another thing i noticed is Ujjivan''s PE is around 10x and that of other is more than 2 times this. All other factors are also in favor of Ujjivan. But still its listing was poor and also not much upside from listing. Ofcourse it is somewhat better than other two( thyro and equi)
But still overall, these three are bakswas IPOs. Last year and 2014 was much better IPOs.
Dear Venki, There was one disadvantage with Ujjivan vis-a-vis Equitas, which is there share in housing loan & Vehicle loan business is very less (12%) compared to Equitas (~45%) which is quite beneficial for a company. Post conversion into small bank the company will have to comply with CRR, SLR and higher priority sector lending requirements, which may negatively impact its operating performance. But in the long run Ujjivan will give better returns than Equitas. Just hold onto it.
To chittogar infrmetion departmnt time ujjivan ka listing informetion boxme ujjivanka fase valu Rs 210 ke jga 201 decler kiya hay vo mistek hay please corect and change the ecord
1211.1. Arup| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2016 10:26:39 AM
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1196. Chem cho| Link| Bookmark|
May 15, 2016 9:51:09 AM
IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
Advice only to new comers in IPO market , statistic show 90 % of stocks of IPO are for listing gains , ie price it lists ,and the gains arrived after listing before the 3 months time frame , as QIB try to sell , after 3 months ,
IF you go for list of IPO that listed between 2007 to 2016 , all are trading below the listing gains , or below the issue price , so only 10 to maximum 20 % of the ipo GIVE good returns
your friends who give realistic value of IPO is still not fair ,
you have to decide when to buy and when to sell gone are the days on 1960 to 1980 , when you buy any good stock return was by BONUS SHARE , RIGHT ISSUE , COMPANY used to announce bonus every 3 to 4 years and right some times in 5 to 10 years or earlier people have have made money but did not en cash and left for children and grand children ,THEY hold these stocks and are very very happy with the gains 1000 % now the game plan has changed sell at higher levels and buy same stock at lower levels , and average out so that the price is 50 % lower than the trading price example of alkem sold at between rs 1588 to rs 1500 ipo price 1050 gains rs 500 , buy at 1188 = -500 = rs 688 have an stop loss at rs 900 and enjoy , but every time you may not succeed, as you have to act fast , and track sock with strict stop loss , you should be able to understand the chat of stock , and news day to day basic , NOW the stock market is more operator driven , along with company management tie up with operator to rig price and then lower it so that you are trapped , RIL on rumor with 4G launch went up to rs 1089 on 13 jan 16 and now trading at rs 975 since 4G is delayed
STICK to your goal and not my advice , and be happy