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35. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 10:49:45 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Ujjivan GMP 48 - 50
34. Lokesh Jain |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 10:47:06 PM
It is one of best IPO''s in 2016. & it has all the potential to create wealth for investors in long run.
34.1. bandish |   Link |  Bookmark | April 21, 2016 8:43:57 AM
kostak price
33. Lokesh Jain |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 10:26:21 PM
What are the reasons for avoiding the ujjivan IPO.

32. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 10:20:38 PM
pinky ji agree with u avoid ujjivan ipo
32.2. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 11:26:12 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
This is actual better then equitas
32.3. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 21, 2016 8:17:38 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Mehulbhai,

I refer your 2 posting ...which are just 9 hours apart ...

mehul mehta Apr 20, 2016 10:20:38 PM IST
pinky ji agree with u avoid ujjivan ipo


mehul mehta Apr 21, 2016 7:31:54 AM IST
I AM APPLYING BOTH IPO WITH DOUBLE FORCE

.... even the Village Idiot is not as "fickle minded" as you are ... LOL
31. pinkyjain |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 9:33:55 PM
Avoid ( Next QH)
31.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 10:36:13 PM
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Ujjivan GMP is 50/- per share

Why do you recommend "Avoid" ?
31.2. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 11:13:39 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
THIS A GREAT COMPANY HAS WON MANY REWARDS FOR CORPORATE GOVERNANCE
30. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 7:46:48 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Ujjivan Financial Services Ltd., : IPO Update
Issue Opens On : Thurs, Apr 28, 2016
Issue Closes On : Mon, May 2, 2016
Price Band & Bid Lot shall be declared 5 days prior to issue opening date.
Issue Size : Fresh Issue of Rs.358 Crs & OFS upto 2,49,68,332 Eq Shs.
Issue Structure : QIB 50%, NII 15% & RET 35%.
Listing : NSE & BSE.
ASBA MANDATORY, NO CHEQUE WILL BE ACCEPTED.

Ujjivan Financial Services Ltd.,:
Providing a full range of financial services to the economically active poor who are not adequately served by financial institutions.
Co. also offer individual loans to MSEs.
Co. received in-principle approval from the RBI to set up a SMALL FINANCE BANK ( SFB).
Peer Group : Equitas Holding, SKS Micro.
30.1. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 8:44:04 PM
PRICE BAND 210 TO 215
29. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 5:35:02 PM
septa sir small and mid cap shares go up 15 to 20 % afterwards anyone buy that stock then next day go down any strategy to identify these stocks before they go up ?
28. PS Rao |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 5:23:19 PM
Ujjivan seller 12
27. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 4:15:26 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
looking at GMP and kostak it looks like market is expecting 3.5 times issue oversubscribed for UFL
26. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 2:29:27 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)

Ujjivan GMP 43 - 45
26.1. SIPs |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 2:36:48 PM
Going up ?
25. PS Rao |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 1:05:42 PM
Ujjivan Financial Ltd. IPO:
Issue Opens: 28th April 2016
Issue Closes: 2nd May 2016

Price Band: Rs 207-Rs 210
Lot Size: 70
Issue Size: 870 Cr.

BRLM: Axis Capital
24. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 11:33:59 AM
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Ujjivan GMP 39/-
23. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 6:48:23 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
IMO Arjun Main reason for price difference or better PE multiple for SKS is SKS margin are way superior to UFL or EHL infant is almost 10 bases point better so market always like a company which has better margins.One reason for high margin for SKS is area in which is works or the asset quality also time it has been in this business If UFL and equitas both be successful in increasing its margin to level of SKS then will see big PE rerating for both Equitas UFL. This margin difference we also see SKS getting better PB ratio. almost triple to what equitas and UFL is asking at IPO
23.3. Khemka |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 9:41:21 AM (1000+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Multiple id ????
23.4. AaryanWealth |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 12:06:47 PM
Really good analysis Jonam even I am expecting 320-340 for Ujjwin and 135-150 for Equitas.
22. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 6:31:29 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Sebi plans shorter gap between IPO and listing

Sebi’s attempts to streamline processes come at a time when the primary markets have picked up steam. Photo: Aniruddha Chowdhury/Mint
Mumbai: The capital markets regulator Securities and Exchange Board of India (Sebi) is trying to shorten the gap between an initial public offering (IPO) and the listing of shares to three days from the current six days, according to two people familiar with discussions held by the regulator.

The matter was discussed at a meeting between Sebi officials and market intermediaries late last month, they said.

Reducing the time between an IPO and listing of shares helps limit risks related to market volatility, which may emerge within that period, and would bring closer to developed markets like the US where the time between an IPO and listing of shares is as low as one day.

Attempts to streamline processes come at a time when the primary markets have picked up steam.

In 2015, 21 companies raised Rs.13,614.08 crore through IPOs— the highest in five years, data by Prime Database showed. So far in 2016, seven companies have tapped primary markets to raise close to Rs.3,200 crore, and an additional two dozen companies with valid Sebi approvals are waiting to launch their IPOs, the data showed.

“In a meeting with market intermediaries, Sebi discussed the idea of bringing down listing time to three days and various ways in which this could be achieved. It was an informal, knowledge-sharing exercise as the regulator is keen on expanding the reach of our markets,” said one of the persons cited above on condition of anonymity.

An email sent to Sebi on Monday was not answered.

In November, Sebi halved the listing time for all IPO transactions opening on and after 1 January to T+6 from T+12. (T denotes the closing date of an issue and the number represents business days in listing shares on exchanges). The system was introduced with the objective of reducing costs as well as time associated with an IPO.

Discussions are now underway to move to a T+3 system.

Merchant bankers and corporate lawyers say that a further reduction in listing time would benefit the markets but add that this would involve a significant overhaul in the prevailing systems.

“Reducing listing time will particularly help QIBs (qualified institutional buyers), who bid for significant quantities of shares and deposit full money for their bids, by unblocking capital faster in cases where bids are only proportionately accepted for allotment. The earlier regime of accepting margin money from QIBs has been long abolished. However, the process will not be easy and will require synchronization among market intermediaries like brokers, ASBA (applications supported by blocked amounts) banks and depository participants (DPs),” said Kaushik Mukherjee, partner, BMR Legal, the legal arm of Indian accountancy firm BMR Advisors.

Lawyers also explained that there are numerous procedures involved in an IPO and said that the regulator will have to simplify each step to achieve its goal of a quicker listing.

These processes include manual filing of application forms in some cases, filing of prospectus with the RoC (Registrar of Companies), verification of electronic bid details by exchanges, ASBA fund verification and the final allotment and permission to trade following submission of documents.

“While any proposal to reduce the post-issue timeline further to align with developed markets, such as the US where trading commences on T+1 basis, may be welcome, the approach for post-issue mechanisms in various jurisdictions are different. Accordingly, further reduction in post-issue timelines, say to a T+3 format, would require that various post-issue processes are completed within this period which may pose challenges under the current framework. Accordingly, changes would be required in the manner in which post-issue processes for public offers are presently executed in India today,” said Abhimanyu Bhattacharya, partner at Khaitan and Co., a tax and law firm

Sebi chairman U.K. Sinha has publicly spoken about the concept of quicker IPO listings and has discussed the idea of bringing them on par with secondary market settlements.

The idea was also reiterated in a discussion paper released in January 2015, where Sebi proposed draft norms for electronic-IPOs (e-IPOs) and fast-track follow-on public offerings (FPOs) and rights issues, in an effort to minimize the listing timeline, boost retail participation and make it easier for companies to raise money.

“…Once the process (of T+6 listing) gets stabilized, timelines can be further curtailed to T+3/2 days. Further, on account of reduction in printing of application forms, the overall cost of public issues will also come down,” said the discussion paper titled Revisiting the capital raising process.

While the benefits are plenty, bankers and lawyers also flagged certain risks that may emerge, such as mistakes in know-your-customer (KYC) verification or in uploading bids, which are all manual functions and need to computerized.

“One can aspire to make end-to-end process electronic. However, we must understand that there are vast differences in India’s primary and secondary markets in terms of KYC requirements. While it is possible to achieve T+3 listing, it would be premature to explore the concept as India recently moved to a T+6 regime, and it is the best you can achieve in the present situation,” said a senior official at a top domestic bank, requesting anonymity.

Initial share sales had slowed down to multi-year lows between 2011 and 2014, prompting Sebi to introduce measures to boost the primary markets.

Over the past year, however, the number of primary issuances have surged due to improved retail sentiment towards equity markets, resulting in inflows into equity mutual funds.
21. Arup |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 12:50:40 AM (900+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Gravita ji,wht is bsda?
21.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 5:56:46 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
basic service demat account (BSDA)
20. IPO Riders |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 12:34:23 AM
Precision seems coming on track. Still holding 1735 of ipo price. And bought 4725 in grey at 10rs. EHL.

SEPTA what to do.?

20.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 6:04:54 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
EHL 4725 which cost u Rs 120 u have two option sell for listing gain of at least Rs20 from from purchase price or hold till this year head triple ur profit from Rs20 to Rs60

With regards PCL first i will average the cost if u do not feel like buying more then wait for few quarters issue price will certainly come. BTW i have averaged hold 85000 shares at 158 will start selling in parts only after it hits 200 i am in for long run.

BTW the price at which u got EHL is super doper price should hold for long run to really get the benefit
19. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 12:34:20 AM
SKS Revenue 1002 Cr. FY 16
UFL Revenue 987 Cr. FY16

EPS 20.35 SKS ( Don''t Have)
EPS 15.2 UFL ( Have Bank License)

Still SKS @ 570
UFL @210

NAV 88.28 SKS
NAV 84 UFL

Think!!!

19.1. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 12:38:07 AM
nice comparison but all bank trading at 3 times nav and ujivan has bank license
19.2. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 2:40:06 PM
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Arjun Sir,

Please do similar comparison between SKS & Equitas also na
18. ranjan patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 12:25:30 AM
ujivan ipo''s grey. market has been started...
17. ROYKOLKATA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 12:10:48 AM
How much money UFL will raise??
16. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 20, 2016 12:08:54 AM
thyrocare price band ?