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115. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 3:44:36 PM
is parag milk food ipo really come ?
115.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 3:47:16 PM
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Expected dates 04 - 06 May
114. ShubH |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 3:44:15 PM
Whether i should invest in UFL or not.?
113. Armaanarora |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 3:37:27 PM
Howmuch shares are alloted in ujjivan financial services ltd in one lot?
113.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 3:40:19 PM
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70
112. SUSHIL GARG |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 2:37:37 PM
850/- of Ujjavan & 1000/- Thyrocare in Hisar on dt 22.04.2016 at 5.00 PM
111. Manoj gopesh |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 1:57:26 PM
UJJIVAN KA KOSTAK PRICE KYA HAI HISAR MAIN
110. jeetu vardiya |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 1:45:24 PM
Application ka Kostak price Kitna hai or gmp
109. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 1:17:14 PM
chances of getting allotment very good in parag milk because of nobody will apply haha
109.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 7:35:16 PM
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The ASBA used for Thyrocare & Ujjivan will be unblocked for Parag ... So retail will be able to apply for Parag also.
108. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 1:06:35 PM
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ujjivan chance of getting allotment is very rare as the IPO SIZE is just 358 CR
in case OF EQUITAS 90 TO 95 % ALLOTMENT was there for retail side , so many have made 4800 highest to 3500 lowest in one lot in 6 accounts equitas rs 22000 ie 200 shares free approx.
so if you apply in 6 family account you may get 2 or 1 lot only ie Rs 4000 maximum
in ujjivan if you get one lot you will earn maximum is Rs 25 to rs 45 =25*70 = Rs 1750 to 2000 or as per listing gains or loss what ever may be

so apply for listing gains try you lottery
108.6. Forum Modulator |   Link |  Bookmark | April 24, 2016 9:30:15 AM
Hi Forum Members,

Based on your feedback we now have corrected the information. In future we will display the size in below format:

»» Issue Size: 42,270,760 Equity Shares of Rs 10 aggregating up to Rs 875.00 - 887.69 Cr
»» Fresh Issue of [.] Equity Shares of Rs 10 aggregating up to Rs 358.16 Cr
»» Offer For Sale of 24,968,332 Equity Shares of Rs 10 aggregating up to Rs [.] Cr

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108.7. ASHOK MEHTA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 24, 2016 10:07:15 AM
Dear Chem,
You have not considered OFS portion of Ujjivan. If you add it total size come to about 850 cr which is almost double than TTL. Moreover TTL will be attract more investors due to its craze. So OS in TTL will about 6 times and 1.5 times in Ujjivan.So if you make 6 applns in each youare likely to get 33 and 70*4=280 shares respetiverly. Please give your feedback.
107. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 1:03:42 PM
fii holding post listing 45 % only 4 % buy more so no upside much
106. rahoolgupta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 12:51:46 PM
Septa Sir,
Please suggest some Small Cap share to purchase and get good return in say 2~3 months time.
106.1. Maruthi |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 3:05:28 PM
u can have a look at the following scripts.
1. Tallwakers around Rs.200
2. Tamilnadu news paper around Rs.220
3. uflex around Rs.170
5 SRF around Rs.1250
6.Indian Terrain at cmp
105. Lokesh Jain |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 12:39:09 PM
Equitas Holdings VS Ujjivan Financial Services


Assets Under Management CAGR (2011-15):
      Equitas Holdings 49.9%
      Ujjivan Financial Services 51.6%

Net Profit CAGR (2011-15):
      Equitas Holdings 39.1%
      Ujjivan Financial Services 62.1%

Networth Growth CAGR (2011-15):
      Equitas Holdings 40.3%
      Ujjivan Financial Services 58.7%

RoAA (FY15)
      Equitas Holdings 2.96%
      Ujjivan Financial Services 2.34%

RoAE (FY15)
      Equitas Holdings 11.15%
      Ujjivan Financial Services 13.71%

Leverage
      Equitas Holdings 2.8x
      Ujjivan Financial Services 4.9x
105.4. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 7:59:59 PM
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What is your opinion about Equitas @138/- ??
105.5. Googly |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 8:28:32 PM
Personally i dont belive in finance company. i made a huge loss in crb capital.....
104. abhinavgupta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 12:32:06 PM (200+ Posts)

current shareholding patter 22.9% domestic 77.1% foreign
Post IPO shareholding pattern 51% domestic + 49% foreign

so in this case FII do not have any scope to buy more than 49% hence they may sell and move to equitas.

Guys UFL is not equitas .

In equitas FII that are holding close to 93 per cent before issue and come down to around 35 per cent post IPO so they have scope to buy 14% more hence equitas jump sky high but UFL will not show same thing.

Avoid UFL no scope to earn i will not apply
104.2. abhinavgupta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 1:01:06 PM (200+ Posts)
I have refered research report of dilip dadva .

Please let me know correct shareholding pattern post ipo if i am wrong
104.3. abhinavgupta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 1:07:31 PM (200+ Posts)
See this fii holding will be around 45%
http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report-ujjivan-issue-to-hit-markets-on-april-28-2204801
103. king ipo king |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 11:53:54 AM
Latest premium & costak rate?? Both ipo
102. Haar Jeet |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 11:02:56 AM
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is it true that love start from hate first !! :))
102.1. Khemka |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 11:35:23 AM (1000+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Wrong its
101. patel''s |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 10:20:01 AM
septaji 2 ipo me se konsa accha he ujjivan or thyrocare ?
100. chitra kamat |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 9:44:52 AM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Both Equitas and Ujjivan have NBFC license and are going to ex-Citi Banker) is to finance the poor and under privileged sector who find it difficult to raise funds. Ujjivan focus will be this segment even after converting in to a Bank.They are going to stick to the business which they know best rather than venturing in to new areas which equitas wants to explore./
100.1. chitra kamat |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 9:49:32 AM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
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100.2. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 10:28:09 AM
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Dear Chitra,

Ujjivan Financial Services Ltd.

NetWorth (Post IPO) = Rs.1558Crs
Equity O/s (Post IPO) = 12.11Crs No. of shares
Therefore, NAV per Share = 128.63

Equitas Holdings Ltd.
NetWorth (Post IPO) = Rs.2055Crs
Equity O/s (Post IPO) = 35.09 No. of shares
Therefore, NAV per Share = 58.56


Can you please guide me if the above data is correct ?
99. AaryanWealth |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 9:43:11 AM
Ujjiwan is better then Equitas in many ways:
1) Book value after IPO Equitas 64 (P to BV 2.1 at CMP) For Ujjiwan Book value after IPO 120 and it can command better P to BV then equitas
2) ROE 19% as compared to 13%
3) Present in 25 states as compared to 11 states
4) Last year growth rate 90% as compared to 40%
5) Focused om microfinance business till now as compared to diversified businesses of Equitas
6) Lower NPA
99.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 10:27:31 AM
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AaryanWealth Sir,

Ujjivan Financial Services Ltd.

NetWorth (Post IPO) = Rs.1558Crs
Equity O/s (Post IPO) = 12.11Crs No. of shares
Therefore, NAV per Share = 128.63

Equitas Holdings Ltd.
NetWorth (Post IPO) = Rs.2055Crs
Equity O/s (Post IPO) = 35.09 No. of shares
Therefore, NAV per Share = 58.56


Can you please guide me if the above data is correct ?
99.2. AaryanWealth |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 11:57:07 AM
Bang on!
98. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 9:40:38 AM
EAGLEYE MAY YOU TELL ME HOW U FIND FAIR VALUE 275 ? ITS BOOK VALUE 94 AND RONW IS 3.84 PERCENT
98.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 10:24:18 AM
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Mehulbhai,

I am as smart as you are ... I just used the formula of 2X of Equitas CMP .. :)
98.2. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 10:28:53 AM
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^NOT as smart
97. SID |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 9:32:41 AM
What is the basis of allotment in NII catrgory in case of oversubscription? Plz reply
96. Nitin Gupta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 23, 2016 9:32:25 AM
Pls reply ujjivan apply or not for listing gain