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235. amit ghosh |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 9:32:47 AM
Rks & septa ji , thnks to both of u. But what about my existing share , sell or hold ?
235.7. amit ghosh |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 1:02:51 PM
I mean the most comfortable buying price..
235.8. RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 1:39:44 PM
Amit do not average anymore. Not worth it. Let the stock fall for another quarter n see its results then. If situation improves then only average. U r doing the mistake which I did in R Power. Allotted in IPO n kept averaging in the hope that it has reached bottom. That''s when I learned virtues of patience.
234. Sreedhar R |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 9:23:57 AM
Is there anyone in this forum who had applied for multiple lots from single PAN for Equitas Holding and still managed to secure more than 1 lot as allottment?
Ideally they shouldn''t since Retail was subscribed more than 1 times in case of Equitas.
Just trying to understand SEBI allottment algorithm..
234.2. Sreedhar R |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 10:43:57 AM
Thanks SIP. Nice link with lot of information stats. Now the question then is : How come then people saying that if oversubscribed chances allottment is only 1 lot if applied multiple via single PAN??
Sepat, Eagleye ..your comments ?
234.3. SONMAYA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 3:58:45 PM
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Dear. Sreedhar.at u r suspicious...,I also got. Heard...same....that.....after ASBA....they...r ...considering....aloft. Process...by using...APPLICATION...NOS....&....NOT...BY....VERYFYING......BY.........PAN......NOS............PEOPLE FROM..AHMEDABAD ..SAYS.....IF U....HAVE...MULTIPLE......DEMATE....UNDER.....SAME....PAN......NOS.........&.....IF U APPLY...THROUGH......BOTH.....DEMATE....NOS.....&.....IF ...ALLOT....IS....FIRM.....THEN U...WILL GET....BOTH...APPLICATIONS......ALLOTED..................BTW.......THIS IS WT I HAVE HEARD......
233. RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 9:17:32 AM
Stock Recommendation- for short term 15 days to one month.

Buy NELCO.

Why- Results are expected to be superlative. Do not miss.

Buy Gokaldas Exports

Why- New export policy due next week. Expect stock to run 15 to 20% in 15 days.
232. amit ghosh |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 8:22:06 AM
septa ji , what''s ur view on IDFC bank for long term (3-5 yrs) ? I have 500 quantity .
I can buy more.. need ur suggestion.
232.2. RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 8:53:51 AM
Dear Amit. Septa would be busy so in the meantime till he ans ur query I will do some input. IDFC latest results have been very very disaapointing. NPA have grown from 3.5% to 6.5%. Profits have fallen to half. In such a scenario it is difficult to predict the stock for next 3-5 yrs. The bank first needs to show some improvement in its performance before any one can give a definite decision to apply fresh or not. However, if u want to invest in banking then invest in Indusind bank, HDFC bank n axis bank in the order they have been stated. The money that u want to invest in IDFC Bank would give u tremendous growth in the banks that I m suggesting. Hope my explanation helps in u taking some concrete decision.
232.3. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 8:58:40 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Correction would not have in the portfolio
231. Bharat mata ki jay |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 7:51:37 AM
Respected Arjun patel please give mo. no.
230. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 7:37:42 AM
eagleye what should be price at which ujivan shares should be sold post listing within a week ?
230.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 8:29:38 AM
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Minimum 270
229. RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 3:58:25 AM
Breaking News. NTPC has invited bids from contractors to install 100MW wind project. Hope Suzy gets it. If it does then expect Suzy to cross 15.5 or maybe 16. Let''s keep fingers crossed.
228. RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 3:17:11 AM
Stock advise- buy cement stocks.

Why-

Modi govt push into infra for building 40 kms highways every day as well as its pledge to connect length and breadth of the country n every village, the cement stocks would be major gainers of such initiatives. Nowadays, NHs are preferred to be made of cement as they r long lasting and can be repaired rather fast n hence preferred. Also, cement prices have started rising again as the demand picks up. Also, with 7th pay commission arrears due any time, there would be spurt in construction activity of individuals who are making their own homes. I m not talking about organised developers as they already are holding overcapacity in housing and are debt ridden. Also, smart city initiatives in first 10 cities would lead to huge demand supply gap. Therefore, the outlook on cement sector is very bullish for next 2 to 3 yes.

Which stocks to buy? -

Buy- Ultra tech, Ramco, Dalmia n Manglam cements. Hold for 1 to 3 yrs.
228.2. RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 7:46:53 PM
U can still buy.
228.3. Masterstroke |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 8:14:37 PM
Tnxx sir
227. Ankur Goell |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 10:52:42 PM
There should be ofs link also in this forum. What do u say guys? Tomorrow nhpc ofs is coming. Moderators can you add a link for ofs of nhpc.
226. EKP |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 10:30:08 PM
Septa, RKS, Eagleye or anyone who could respond-
Based on the number of lots I apply, situation one being me applying to 5 lots, situation 2 being me applying to 1 single lot -
Are there chances that situation 2 has higher chances of me being allotted shares by the system than situation one, just on the basis of some system algorithm?
226.6. RKS |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 2:55:06 AM
EKP there is no use Applying for multiple lots from single PAN no if the issue is fully subscribed. With existing rules if u have to get then u will get only one lot to a PAN in oversubscription. Its better to apply single lot on single PAN of family members to increase ur chances in the lottery.
226.7. EKP |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 6:25:40 PM
Thanks RKS, that solves my doubt
225. kingsuper |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 9:00:26 PM
Suddenly bhav is moving up
224. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 7:49:08 PM
TTL 196/-
APPLICATION 1225-1275

UFL 44-47
APPLICATION 1075-1150

PARAG 39-42
APPLICATION 475-525

BUYERS FOR ALL @ RAJKOT

224.6. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 8:50:32 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Those with little knowledge keep showing it how stupid they our let just keep silent and enjoy..... BTW i enjoying lassi good for this hot chennai weather
224.7. Nirmal Shah |   Link |  Bookmark | April 27, 2016 2:02:46 AM
Septa sir are you from chennai? Currently i am doing job in chennai so only asking.
223. J J |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 7:40:01 PM
Dear Eagleye
( Belated )
Happy Birthday Wishes..!! I Hope this is the Beginning of your Greatest most Wonderful Year Ever !!!
ALL THE BEST
223.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 8:07:56 PM
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Thank you Sir
222. VALUE INVESTOR |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 7:35:02 PM (900+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
SP Tulsian analysis of UFSL:
New issue (IPO) Analysis:
An Attractive Debut

Ujjivan Financial Services is entering the primary market on Thursday 28th April 2016, to raise Rs. 358 crore via a fresh issue of equity shares of Rs. 10 each and an offer for sale (OFS) of upto 249.68 lakh equity shares, both in the price band of Rs. 207 to Rs. 210 per share. The total fund raising aggregates to Rs. 883 crore, at the upper end of the price band, of which, OFS portion is Rs. 525 crore. Representing 35.5% of the post issue paid-up capital at the upper end, issue closes on Monday 2nd May.

Bengaluru based Ujjivan Financial is a microfinance company serving over 27.7 lakh customers, through its 470 branches pan India, enjoying a market share of 11.15% of India’s NBFC-MFI business. Having received an in-principle approval from RBI to set up a small finance bank (SFB), foreign shareholding in the company is to be brought down to 49% or less, by April 6, 2017, and hence existing foreign investors are pruning their holding to ~44%, from current 77.10%, via this IPO.

For FY15, Ujjivan recorded a stupendous 57% YoY growth in net interest income (NII), at Rs. 328 crore vis-à-vis Rs. 208 crore in FY14, with net assets under management (AUM) almost doubling to Rs. 3,219 crore as of 31-3-15, from Rs. 1,617 crore, a year ago. All this, with asset quality remaining steady - Net NPA of just Rs. 60 lakh, representing 0.02% of Net Advances. Company ended FY15 with PAT of Rs. 76 crore, against Rs. 58 crores YoY, up 31%, leading to an EPS of Rs. 11.24, against Rs. 8.91.

Coming on to the just concluded fiscal, NII of Rs. 408 crore posted during first 9M of FY16, has already surpassed FY15’s Rs. 328 crore, by 24%, that too in just 9 months’ time. PAT of Rs. 122 crore is a smart 60% rise, again in just 9 months, although asset quality has softened a tad bit, with Net NPA of Rs. 1.79 crores, representing 0.04% of Net Advances, as of 31-12-2015. However, this is not a concern at all, the number being so minute! Company has improved its NIM to 12.31%, RoA to 3.74% and RoE to 20.4%, which are all very robust parameters, besides bringing down cost-to-income ratio to 62% from 73%+, recorded in the previous fiscal.

Having Net AUM of Rs. 4,540 crore, as at 31-12-15, Ujjivan is being valued at 1.75x on pre-issue book value of approximately Rs. 120 (as on 31-3-16), at the upper price band of Rs. 210, while it works out to 1.58x post IPO, which is quite attractive, considering the present comparable peer Equitas Holding, which has received excellent response from institutional investors on its listing last week, currently ruling at a multiple of over 2x. SKS Microfinance, with over 1,300 branches and Gross Loan Portfolio of Rs. 6,177 crore (as on 31-12-15 ex AP & Telangana), is currently ruling at price to book of 5.7x.

Ujjivan is likely to close FY16 with an EPS of about Rs. 16.50, on equity base of Rs.101.20 crore, leading to a PE multiple of less than 13 times, on historic basis. This is cheaper than Equitas Holdings on earning multiple as well, the latter’s PE being close to 22.5x. Equitas is currently a holding company, and this should not make much of a difference, as Ujjivan will also eventually become a holding company, when its existing business will be transferred to SFB upon commencement of SFB operations.

It may be noted that since RBI has issued 10 licenses for SFB and in due course of time, all of them will get listed, which will taper off valuations of the existing listed peers. However, having posted NII and PAT CAGR of over 50% and Net AUM CAGR of whopping 69% over the past 3 fiscals, with handsome NIMs and return ratios (RoE and RoA), fundamentals of the company remain very strong. Moreover, due to the valuation gap vis-à-vis peers, the issue has left a lot of money on the table for prospective investors.

Microfinance industry has started seeing healthy loan volume upticks and players like SKS Micro and Equitas Holdings are leapfrogging with rising profitability. Good monsoon forecast for this season can only make MFI players show higher growth for the next couple of years as well.

To conclude, Ujjivan IPO is attractively valued and investment is advised for listing gains, as also, with a MT view, due to its robust operating performance, professional management, good corporate governance and favourable industry dynamics. Go for it!
221. prashant patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 7:31:45 PM
retail portion of UFL and TTL
and issue size ?
220. lakshya agg |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 7:07:04 PM
when ujjivan ofs open?

is it applied by broker only?

ofs is only for 1 day?
219. Abhilash.L.S. |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 6:29:46 PM
Sir,is there any advantage for applying ipos on the very 1st day of issue???? Thyrocare is opening tomorrow????
219.5. AZMAT KHAN |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 7:06:07 PM
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219.6. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 7:07:56 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
yes it will be 100 plus so min investment 15 lakhs to get one lot which does not make sense 5 to 15 times over subscribed then it useful if not it is waste IMO
218. Haar Jeet |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 6:24:11 PM
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Kostak jodi @2100 here in bhavnagar
217. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 6:06:19 PM
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http://ftp.motilaloswal.com/emailer/Marketdiary/Result/UjjivanFinancialServices.pdf
217.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 6:17:56 PM
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Contact details of the analyst at Motilal Oswal ...

Jehan Bhadha (jehan.bhadha@MotilalOswal.com); Tel: +91 22 33124915
216. GOOD LUCK |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2016 5:45:51 PM
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