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355. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 10:49:57 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
I am advised that we should expect no more than 500K (mostly likely to be lesser) retail application forms in Ujjivan …

That will mean at least 40% allotment chance in Ujjivan ...

as compared to approximately 16% allotment chance in Thyrocare ...
355.6. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 12:34:40 PM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Consider 3 scenarios for your single dmat account.
1. 4 lots (or)
2. maximum lots possible for a retailer (or) < 2 lakhs
3. single lot.

It all means the same in an oversubscribed issue like this, since the sebi rule says, maximum number of retailers are to be allotted at least a minimum lot size. That too by electronic lottery system.

355.7. Fountainhead |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 3:54:15 PM
I doubt if we are going to see such less applications (<500k) in Ujjivan. Most people applied for both. So if not 735k, it should easily cross 600k.
354. ccol chennai |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 10:41:02 AM
GRAY MARKET PREMIUM
354.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 10:41:23 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
50-51
354.2. Sarah |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 5:19:42 PM
@Eagle - Need some inputs, I have already applied for Ujjivan 1 lot via SBH Online ASBA, but not received any SMS or email for a successful bid like thyrocare.

so here are my 2 questions

a) How can I increase my bid by another lot for ujjivan.

b) I got 2 different demat accounts, so can I submit another application ? or will it get cancelled as both account are mapped to the same PAN number ?

Please advise.
353. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 9:37:19 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Ujjivan GMP 50-51
353.6. Deeep |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 2:03:48 PM
he cant be a CA...
CA cant be so confused..
I myself is a CA..
353.7. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2016 12:52:39 PM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Then Put "AC" instead of CA so that it can cool off the head in hot summer
352. gala |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 9:15:24 AM
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Septa sir can we buy alkem at 1150 or expect more downside ?
352.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 9:53:10 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
i have sold got my position in alkem will wait before entering again
351. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 8:53:12 AM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
RE: Msg No 518 in thyrocare technologies, in response to your kind replies,

Chem cho/septa Ji and others

1. You mean FD income of 2 lakh per year?

2. Can we make transaction above 50 k from one account to another account with same PAN number (between my own different bank accounts)?

3. Does HUF require separate bank account?

Question for Arun/septa ji
1. I dont have any ancestral property only earning from my work. In that case, can i form HUF or not?

2. You people are saying both individual and HUF total income has to file separate returns.
Suppose total income is 3 L my side and total family income is 6 lakhs (for example). I have to pay tax for 50 k personally and for HUF, i have to pay tax for 3.5 Lakh. Now this is like double tax right? Then how come, tax saving is possible by HUF formation
?
351.2. arun |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 9:22:21 AM
HUF means "Hindu Undivided Family " for family means husband,wife,and male child
So basic requirement is husband and wife .children comes afterwards and even one do not have children may adopt too
351.3. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 10:39:37 AM
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to add birth date is date of marriage ,
350. MahiMahi |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 8:33:03 AM
Hi
I have budget of 60k for ujjivan, should I apply as 4 lot or 1 lot only? To get allotment.
350.4. MahiMahi |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 10:07:40 AM
Jonam
how should we apply one lot each in four different names?
350.5. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 10:54:24 AM
APPLY THROUGH 4 applications FORMS 4 different PAN NO 4 SEPERATE NAMES 4 SEPERATE DEMAT ACCOUNTS SIGLE LOT IN ALL 4 APPLI
349. ASHOK MEHTA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 8:09:13 AM
Dear Kuldeep,
Nice calculation. However I feel that suscription will be little less due to (1) There was heavy craze for Thyrocare because of huge sucess of Dr Lal (2) As Thyrocare is highly oversubscribed there may be a scarcity of Funds for this issue (3) some Funds are also blocked in Equitas and Quickheal as Quickheal is quoting below issue price and at current price investors are not getting expected profit in Equitas. Pl send your valuable comments.
349.1. jonam |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 9:14:23 AM
Four applications of one lot each.
348. KULDEEP BHARGAVA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 6:35:28 AM
Good moring Eagleye madam for ujjivan ipo subscription if we assued maximum forms that submitted in tryrocare was 736000 and dived it 211000 which is 1 time for ujjivan calculation comes out maximum 3. 5 times subscribe ujjivan ipo basic of number of forms please write your view for this calculation
348.2. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 10:43:05 AM
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I am advised that we should expect no more than 500K retail application forms in Ujjivan
348.3. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 10:44:24 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
That will mean >40% allotment chance in Ujjivan ...
as compared to ~16% allotment chance in Thyrocare ...
347. sumit mh |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 11:37:18 PM
anyone on board
please confirm if their application number is fetching correctly with BSE/NSE database.
347.1. sumit mh |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 11:39:49 PM
sorry i just checked on BSE, it matched there :)
347.2. Shrikant Panigrahi |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 6:15:39 AM
How to check application number in NSE/BSE
346. Beginer |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 9:31:33 PM
Can anybody teach me, how to apply through multiple applications. ICICIDirect allows only one application per PAN.
346.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 9:39:32 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
you need multiple account in name of family and friend to apply multiple application
346.2. sugreev |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 8:51:57 AM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
You can apply for only one application with one PAN No. If you apply 2 applications with same PAN No, both will be rejected even if you had applied with different brokers or different DMAT Nos....
345. sumit mh |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 8:55:47 PM
So many queries for ASBA. I guess 1 out of 3 persons in india holds SBI accounts & most literate ppl also take onlinesbi access from SBI. Go in E services its very easy just need to put DP id & customer Id.
345.3. sumit mh |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 11:45:07 PM
Got it on BSE.Mine is showing.you should also try again.
Mine starts with 002E and its 16 digits hope this work for you.
345.4. IAMIRFAN |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 12:34:33 AM
The platform of all the state bank groups are same. If you apply from sbi aur sbp sbh sbm sbbj sbt. They are submitting the application from the same platform
344. mayoormayoor kumar shah |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 8:11:00 PM
i am waiting for reply to my quiry no.348
344.1. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 9:11:35 PM
www.bseindia.com/investors/appli_check.aspx check your app above link
343. Paladan |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 7:45:54 PM
Thats Ok Give mine...
342. GRAVITA PAROL |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 7:35:28 PM
septaji,and other friends,

I need your help.
I used icicibank(net banking)
query:
when I do register asba for IPO,
in register box
there is required landline no.(compulsory)
but I have no landline no.,so I can''t register my demat ID.
what I should?
thanx
342.4. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 9:26:45 PM
give physical form to icici bank
342.5. Manipo |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 12:20:26 AM (200+ Posts)
I checked by logging in to ICICI bank still can''t find the option to apply using ASBA.
341. mayoormayoor kumar shah |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 7:35:03 PM
how to confirm my application for ujjvan ipo submitted to bse, ASBA application,submitted to broker,whether he has sumitted to concern. normally i am getting information from bse,
that application no.submitted to bse..but still i have not received as above.
341.1. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 9:08:26 PM
search in google bseindia ipo application status
341.2. Sarah |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 9:33:08 PM
Check te status out here, if you know the application number ?

http://www.bseindia.com/investors/appli_check.aspx
340. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 7:30:52 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Just out of context question: One of my women staff i think is physical abused by her husband i had asked her about it she confirmed my fears however said please do not take any action against her husband. However i took some professional help (detective agency) found her useless husband is living on her income and also involved in an other relationship with an another women stays most of the time with the other women only visit weekends that to not all weekends.

The women and kids does not know about should i tell my staff about it or just keep quiet need advice
340.10. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 9:44:37 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
@harish J thank u
340.11. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 9:51:27 PM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Septa Ji

You should first look at the psychology of the lady. If she feels no one is to help her, she might tell her children. For children, its "like a rock on a sparrow''s head" Their childhood will be spoiled on thinking of a solution for adulthood (parents). Sometimes, the child may become violent or domestic violence could happen. The children will become mentally affected and may even lead to psychiatric hospitalizations or consultations. A theft will not be stopped unless a thief stops the theft. Wait for some more time, DONT RUSH to tell her at present. This is a very delicate problem. I will get back to you tomorrow, now its too late and got to play a game after a stressful day...

Thanks Septa ji for your concern but I will tell you more about it later.

339. ketul |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 7:03:55 PM
hi i want to know that in online asba can we apply for different id through one account like from account can i apply for my wife if she is having different account which has no online facility.
338. Khemka |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 6:58:15 PM (1000+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Same story going to repeat , Qii 50 , Hni 140 , Rii 5 times oversubscribed likely
338.7. Marwari |   Link |  Bookmark | May 2, 2016 9:20:57 AM
eagleye
journaly ipo opens for 3 days.
Its open for 5 days 28th to 2ed may.
So i am talking about 2 extra days.
AND DONT CALL ME "SIR".
338.8. Marwari |   Link |  Bookmark | May 2, 2016 9:26:11 AM
journaly=generaly
sorry for spelling mistake.
337. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 6:49:12 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
UJJIVAN ... "FULL FORCE" APPLY ... APPLY ... APPLY !!!

after looking at today''s closing of Thyrocare ... the market expects that ...

Ujjivan will be :
NII 70X
RII 2.5X (number of forms basis)

The lower subscription numbers are expected becoz of 2 reasons:
a) There is lesser money circulating in the market
b) the Issue size is almost double as compared to Thyrocare

Therefore, the wiser players expect a greater RETURN on "money invested" in this issue as compared to Thyrocare
337.3. BULLS OF INDIA |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 9:37:43 AM (200+ Posts)
@ Eagleye, Thanks for predicting over-subscription figure correctly & timely in Thyrocare. it help us in deciding, to apply in which category.
337.4. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 30, 2016 10:40:49 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Kuldeep Sir,
Sorry could not reply you earlier as the bidding closed only after 11pm last night ... anyway, I am sure you would have got your answer by now ...
336. Haar Jeet |   Link |  Bookmark | April 29, 2016 6:38:28 PM
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QIB 0.62
NII 0.32
RII 1.14

TOTAL 0.81