Is someone lucky person gets allotment in both thyrocare and ujjivan, profit of minimim 15k is confirm. All the best guys. Keep fingers crossed till then.
Ujjivan Vs SKS Micro For 9 month Dec 2015 Profit before Tax 187.68 Crs 283.73 Tax 65.37 Crs 65.23 Crs Net Profit 122.30 218.50 Market Cap@55/-premium 3127 7590 SKS is paying only MAT as it has carried forward loss and Ujjivan pays normal tax. So the metric to compare Ujjivan should be the PBT of SKS Vs Ujjivan. So on PBT of 284 crs SKS is valued at 7590 crs so on pbt of 188 Ujjivan would give: 7590x188/284 =5024 Crs. Assuming a discount of 20% for market leadership still Ujjivan should get 4000 Crs Market Cap. Should see a steady rise in prices in Ujjivan to eventually get to 4000 Crs MC in a short period of time.
All three are in proportions. Why u expect that ujjivan will increase its MC to the level of SKS.keeping the grown in segment same will defiantly remain them in as proportions as it is present. Pl explain
All three are in proportions. Why u expect that ujjivan will increase its MC to the level of SKS.keeping the grown in segment same will defiantly remain them in as proportions as it is present. Pl explain
Atul on a pbt of 284 crs SKS has MC of 7590 crs. So on Pbt of 188 Ujjivan should ideally have a MC of 7590 x 188/283 = 5024 crs provided aerey thing remains same. Since SKS is the leader I would deduct 20% to arrive at Ujjivan;s MC which works out to 4000 crs as against 3127. Now if we compare Ujjivan with Equitas both have same PBT but Equitas is commanding a MC of 4690 crs. and Ujjivan is stucck at present with only 3127 crs inspite of having better ROE, Return on Asset, Lower NPA , Higher growth in AUM and disbursements. So I see no reason for Ujjivan to catch up within a short period.
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May 4, 2016 10:22:03 AM
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That will be disastrous... !!!
Hope they will clarify when they declare official results on 6th May
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May 4, 2016 10:38:46 AM
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The results declared last evening are for 1 of the 3 subsidiary companies ... The listed entity "Equitas Holdings Limited" will declare its consolidated results on 6th May 2016
Equitas vehicle financing wholly owned subsidiary has posted excellent results for March 2016, even though NPA are a tad higher. We have to wait and watch the results of main activity of micro finance and the consolidated results. This will decide the future valuation and up move if any.
Going by previous good IPO trends, there has been atleast 20% increase from the listing day. 141 is good buy and u can expect it to go till 160 in next one month.
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May 4, 2016 9:36:19 AM
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2 very important point , which i would like to discuss here, 1, in this year budget , Micro Finance companies are permitted to claim their provision for NPAs as tax deductible in their tax return to the extant of 5% of Revenue. This benefit to MFIs are not available earlier. This will leave additional cash flow in the hands of MFIs by way of lesser tax payments. Banks are permitted to expense provision in their books to the extant of 7.5%. This is a welcome step and u will feel its impact on financial of MFIs from June 2016 quarter onwards. Equitas, Ujjivan and SKS all 3 will be beneficiary from this amendment in Income tax act
Sorry, i had not discussed the second issue. One very important point which i would like to discuss here, no one imagined HDFC, Kotak , Yes will become such a large bank on one day. I m a school going boy at the time of yes bank ipo. Why it had happened : due to professional management except yes bank , being one man show by Mr Rana kapoor ji. Both Equitas and Ujjivan hv similar potential to become multibegger in long run. Both are professionally managed, no single promoter stake holding and strong growth past track record. One may appreciate that in HDFC bank, FII is permitted to the level of 100% and in yes bank , yesterday, to the level of 60%. These developments rewrite the valuation metrics of these stock. Over the time , such higher FII stake permission will also be permitted in both these stocks and it will become multibegger. Septa and RKS sir can correct me, if i missed something.
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May 3, 2016 11:26:52 PM
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Your points are quite interesting ...
but a particular information is factually wrong ... Yes Bank was started by Rana Kapoor & Ashok Kapoor (was died in the 26/11 terrorist attack)
And Wife of Ashok kapoor and family is running board room battle in company. I personally dont like earlier Yes bank, due to these issues. This leads to lesser focus on business development. But since last 1 month stock is catching up and run to the level of 1000. But still i would not invest in Yes bank. Madhu kapoor, wife of Ashok kapoor and their son and daughter shagun and Gaurav kapoor hv the joint right to nominate director in yes bank in the line of Mr.Rana kapoor, which will later create corporate governance issue and distraction from main business for Yes bank.