EHL Large no. of shares allocated to retail category. Large no. of retail portion will come for sell on listing day. I suggest if you have holding capacity then wait for some time 3 to 4 weeks. See the ipo launch and listing of Ujjivan. I observed in many ipos , if new ipo is launched then some momentum shown in it''''''''s peers which is already listed. Like sks micro, SpiceJet etc.
also since this companies are also cyclical in nature even capacity valuation can be used per ton rate and then multiple that will industry average. say for cement industry per ton capacity is valued at 100 $ per ton say a cement company has 5 million ton capacity then valuation will 500 million if this listed 300 Million then 200 million the company is under valued
Two different price band and total issue have been doing round which are as follows: 1. 430-445 price band issue size 480 Cr this value the company at 40 PE with MC of 2400 2. 565-595 price band issue size 640 Cr this value the company at 50 PE MC 3200
at 445 price band this one best issue to come no question just pt one single lot and if good luck u will get allotment at 595 price band the issue is pricy however compare to Dr lal which double in size has market cap of 8500 Cr so still can see some list gain.
let see in few days will come to know the price band
Sorry this post should be in 86, request to Manipo
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April 17, 2016 8:37:39 AM
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Vodafone India may raise $2 billion using IPO route
Bharti Airtel Vodafone India''s stated plan to sell its shares could involve raising of funds to the tune of $2 billion (Rs. 13,300 crore), reported the Mint, citing four sources familiar with the development. The stock offering will potentially be done through the Initial Public Offering (IPO) route by the end of this month or early next month.
Media reports had said on April 8 the parent company Vodafone Group Plc was laying the groundwork for India''s largest IPO. However, the firm then had disclosed that the stock offering would be a pure stake sale by the parent firm or involve primary capital raising.
India''s second-largest telecommunication company in terms of subscriber base, one of the four sources added, has already asked merchant bankers to submit proposals for the IPO mandate this week. By next week it is expected to shortlist investment bankers to pitch for the final IPO mandate.
In reply to an email enquiry, Vodafone India told Mint: "We have previously said we have started preparations for a potential IPO, which includes private conversations with banks." It added: "But this is a lengthy process and no decision will be made until we are at the end of it."
As all the major domestic and international bankers vie for the IPO, another source confirmed that the telco expects to raise up to $2 billion through this process.
Bloomberg reported that the share sale would provide Vodafone funds to expand in India. The country''s rising wages have helped the company''s growth in India outpace it in mature Western markets such as the U.K. The news agency, citing sources, added that London-hedquartered Vodafone may sell 10 percent of its India business, and set the valuation of its operations at $20 billion.
Bharti Airtel, India''s largest telco by number of subscribers, has a market capitalisation of nearly $21.3 billion (Rs.1.4 lakh crore). Idea Cellular, another thriving teleco, has about $6.2 billion (Rs. 41,315.85 crore) in market cap.
Good news for ipo people. thanks for information. could u pl enlight us on SME ipos like how to apply and deal in sec.market and also brokers names who deal in this end to end
@maruthi for SME ipos see my comments in Sysco ipo board made around 1st April.
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April 17, 2016 11:22:27 AM
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maruthi i find SME high risk but also high rewarding play even after SEBI has put lot of rule to keep some investor away like bigger min lot hard to trade should in entire lot, no need to provide quarterly annual report is abridged and soon. In this forum i find MANIPO has good knowledge on SME IPOs i do apply for these IPO my last one was sysco
@septa yes sir. I am a regular investor in SME IPOs and my journey has been rewarding so far. Yes SMEs are very risky. much more risky than normal equity. Liquidity is a problem there. There can be times when stocks are on lower circuit and there is no buyer for days. Also SMEs are not well supported by Banks and broker community. Not many allow buy and sell from their platform. But silver lining is that in last few months I see many people taking interest in them, recent subscription figures of sysco and lancer containers are examples for that.
Like many good people around here (including you) I am trying to do my bit by sharing whatever little I have learned from my own experience.
Thanks Manipo and Septa for providing infor.abt SME ipo and sec.market. Infact Manipo has given some valuable insights abt SME platform and brokers dealing there over phone. With his handholding, i applied in Sysco through ASBA in HDFC offline, but with no success. May be better luck next time. In the mean time i am still struggling to find a broker who is dealing in sme secondary market. Anand Rathi at chennai not dealing in this platform. Market maker Karvey at pondicherry has no idea abt it.What a shame? i don''t know what karvey is capable of ? Tomorrow i intend to try at Motilal/Sharekhan/HEM Sec Let me see. Request Manipo''s help in identifying the broker. Thanks onceagain for both of you.
No i don''t have trading a/c with them. After ur input last week,i contacted them at chennai through one Mr.Ganesh, with idea of opening an online trdg a/c with them.But they said they don''t deal with sme.
@manipo, @maruthi.. To work in SME, I would like to suggest u broker, SMC Global.. They allow to work in SME, u can put order, and if volume, then trade also execute.. Also, u can trade it online, browser base Or Mobile/Tablet Trading Platform which is really best, as it''s developer is Financial Technologies.. You can select this broker...
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April 17, 2016 8:33:11 AM
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PNB housing which is also planning an IPO has revised it price on advice of merchant bank which is good news for retail investor.
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April 16, 2016 9:09:38 PM
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kostak of Jodi @ 2300 in bhavnagar
kitne dino k baad investor making money so if some one don''t want to apply sell in kostak but do not post that i am not applying
In an unusual turn of events, L&T Infotech Ltd on Monday withdrew the draft red herring prospectus (DRHP) it filed with the Securities and Exchange Board of India, and filed it afresh on Tuesday. According to investment bankers, this was necessary becathe estimated size of the issue has been cut by more than 10%. As it turns out, the estimated size of the issue has been cut by almost 30% to around $200 million, according to news reports.
The Nifty IT index has corrected by around 5% since the time L&T Infotech filed its DRHP the first time in end-September.
Clearly, its valuation estimates were far too high to begin with, necessitating the sharp cut in the issue size.
Parent Larsen and Toubro Ltd (L&T), which currently owns all of the company’s shares, is offering a part of its stake in the issue. The number of shares to be issued will remain the same at 17.5 million. Based on the earlier rumoured issue size of up to Rs.2,000 crore, L&T was expecting a valuation of around 24 times fiscal year 2015 earnings. This has been toned down to around 16-17 times.
Large-sized IT services companies such as Tata Consultancy Services Ltd and Infosys Ltd trade well above 20 times FY15 earnings, and so is the case with some smaller-sized firms such as Mindtree Ltd and Hexaware Technologies Ltd. But these firms have grown at faster rates.
Mindtree has grown revenues at an annual average growth rate of 23% in the three years till FY15, while growth at Hexaware has stood at 21.2%. L&T Infotech’s growth was lower at 16.1% during the same period.
Operating profit margins are comparable with Mindtree at around 20%, although they are ahead of Hexaware. However, free cash flow generation is lower at L&T Infotech at around 9% of revenue. For the other two firms, free cash flow generation as a proportion of revenue was in double-digits.
Besides, like most other mid-sized firms, L&T Infotech carries greater risks such as high client concentration. Its two largest customers, Citibank and Chevron, account for 21% of revenue.
Against this backdrop, L&T was clearly aiming too high by demanding valuations of around 24 times trailing earnings earlier. The fact that it has toned down expectations sharply should help the issue sail through.
I compared financials of Throcare and Dr. Lal: - I don''t think Throcare will give returns like Dr. Lal. - Dr. Lal is almost 3.5 times bigger in revenue - Dr. Lal''s profit margin is consistent since last 5 years and comes to 12 to 14 percent - Throcare''s profit margin coming in the range of 25 to 40 percent - Lal''s profit margin is very less compared to Throcare both in the same line and difference between margin is 2 to 3 times - Throcare''s profit margin is decreases from 40 percent in 2013, 29 percent in 2014 and 25 percent in 2015 - Dr. Lal''s profit margin is consistent from year 2011 to 2015. - Revenue of throcRe is not increasing compared to Lal.
I am waiting for price band for detail analysis. If it comes with comparable price band then listing gain should be sure but in midterm , return like Dr. LAL is questionable.
very well put Uchit Patel like always price band of 445 to be a run away success however at 595 will be risky bet however even with such high valuation market would lap given this vertical of health care is liked and success of Dr LAL
also market grey premium of 150 Plus is based on price band of 445 if the issue comes at 595 then all this GMP will disappear or reduce to 10 and twenty making this issue un attractive