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1496. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 6:43:29 PM
FAIR VALUE CAN BE DIFFERENT AS PER DIFFERENT METHOD NOTHING IS FIXED
1496.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | May 8, 2016 12:09:49 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
SONMAYA do not worry..... MEHUL IS JUST GOOD KID who is hurry i just like pulling his leg........ so do not worry SONMAYA and thank u for ur advice.... I am here in the forum to learn and share my knowledge. So all can benefited.....
1496.2. SONMAYA |   Link |  Bookmark | May 8, 2016 12:45:43 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Dear septa,that''s really kind of u and yr greatness...carry on guy...god bless u & Dory...
1495. tusharbhai |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 6:21:43 PM
dear everyone, amount has deducted from my account i.e. rs 14718/- but i have not been allotted any share. my application no. is 27698482. kindly help.
1495.1. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 6:45:02 PM
its one kind of charity u did to thyrocare co ltd
1495.2. Arup |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 6:52:42 PM (900+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
No allotment
1494. amol shringi |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 6:03:54 PM
when thyrocare tech will be listed on NSE-BSE..........?????
1493. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 5:58:57 PM
ITS FAIR VALUE WILL BE DETERMINED AFTER ITS RHP COMING OUT
1493.1. Khemka |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 6:30:40 PM (1000+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Correct , till then no speculation
1492. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 5:31:26 PM
SEPTA SIR IN C.A NO SUBJECT IS ON FINDING FAIR VALUE OF SHARES SO I AM NOT EXPERT IN IT I CAN DO AUDIT ONLY I AM ALSO LEARNING THIS FAIR VALUE AND TEACH OTHERS LIKE EAGLEYE HAHA
1492.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 5:46:09 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Yap Spoon feeding is term used for people like u
1492.2. Arup |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 5:58:07 PM (900+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Really C.A SAHAB!
1491. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 5:23:59 PM
ok consider its np 15 percent then how much its fair value ?
1490. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 4:04:07 PM
SEPTA SIR MAHANAGAR GAS EPS 30 AND NET PROFIT MARGIN RATIO 10 PERCENT pe ratio will be 10 SO FAIR VALUE 300
1490.7. SONMAYA |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 6:23:12 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Dear septa.. when u wrote yr qualification . As CA....mehta describe himself as CA...to impress u..and that time he ask for yr email..id....I Doubt. That he is CA ..by looking at his behavior.. here
1490.8. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 6:49:30 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
I agree 100%
1489. xyz |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 2:54:56 PM
If your amount is not blocked then it is banks mistake u can check u r bid details either on NSE or bse website by putting application No & pan no
1488. Antonio Munia |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 2:52:15 PM
Amount unblocked from HDFC bank. No need to login to HDFC sec and release fund.
1487. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 2:49:16 PM
septa sir FAIR VALUE OF MAHANAGAR GAS IPO IS RS 300 HOW MUCH IS IT AS PER YOUR CALCULATION ?
1487.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 3:40:15 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
DORY can u enlighten us as how u got Rs 300 as fair vaule pls. Eagerly waiting for ur reply 🤔
1486. NKSRAO |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 2:43:23 PM
Hi,

I got allotment for the applied one lot only.(33 Shares). in NRI Category, UJJIVAN was not in NRI, hence applied in my wife name 3 Lot, Zero Allotment, Can anyone have allotment Ratio of Ujjivan,
1485. Dheeraj Karwa |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 2:41:24 PM
My both application is rejected..I.e thyrocore and ujjivan... I want to know reasons behind of it... How can I ?????
1485.1. Arup |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 3:06:59 PM (900+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
U can mail to register,linkintime,karvy
1484. mayur soni |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 2:29:20 PM
Thayeocare ipo me mera rs. ASBA account me block nahi Hua tha to isliye galti kiski hai . bank Ki galti ya broker Ki galti. Plz advise me
1483. chintan rangrej |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 1:59:27 PM
Dear septaji,
What to do on both ipo listing?
Should we buy thyrocare if it lists at 750? Or it will godown after huge listing.
Same question for Ujjivan listing day.

Please guide us.
1483.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 2:11:15 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
With Ujjivan I will be buying more with Thyrocare I will flip at 800 plus rate
1482. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 1:35:38 PM
thanx to pranay prasunbhai finally funds release from hdfcsec
1481. krupa |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 1:22:42 PM (800+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
any news for upcoming ipo in next month
1480. PPJ |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 1:16:14 PM
I have not got allotment of Thyrocare, I want to know about rules of trading on listing day, whether intraday trading allowed on first day or not? Thanks in advance
1480.1. Pranay Prasun |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 1:20:33 PM
Yes..Its allowed !!
1479. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 1:06:54 PM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
Mahanagar Gas Ipo:
Total 820000 residential, 2600 small commercial and 55 industrial customers. CNG fuel stations in Navi Mumbai etc.

Gail and British Gas each selling 25 percent stack. Each have 49.75 stack in Mahanagar Gas.

Total value of company 4800 crore
25 percent sale means 1200 crore. Total size of ipo around 1200 crore.

Total shares for sale 2.46 crore.
Revenue 2095, 1885 crore for 2015, 2014.
Net Profit 301, 297 crore for 2015, 2014.
EPS for both years Rs. 30.

Comparison with peers:
Many analysts compare with IGL. IGL is one of the peer but not 100 percent. IGL is more in vehicle fuel - fuel stations. Though Mahanagar is in domestic LPG supply to residential customers.
I think best peer is Gujarst Gas. Some other peers are GSPL, Adani Enter etc.

I compared peers are trading at P/E of 14 to 20.

If Mahanagar comes with Rs. 485 , then it is P/E of 16. This price is fair enough.

Though it is a basic utility company. We never see tremendous increase in customers, revenue and profit in utility company because of government regulations etc. We can see steady limited growth only. Medium to long term investors will get more benefits.
Chances of loss is very rare. Investors will not get healthy returns in short term.

1479.15. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | May 8, 2016 1:44:43 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Uchitbhai,

MGL''s 75% business is CNG - vehicles....and 25% is PNG - domestic gas ...

Therefore your point that "Many analysts compare MGL with IGL. IGL is one of the peer but not entirely. IGL is more in vehicle fuel - fuel stations. but MGL is in domestic LPG supply to residential customer. Best peer for MGL is Gujarat Gas."

Does it still hold true ??







I infer this from the DRHP, which says ...

"As at June 30, 2015, we supplied CNG to over 0.43 million vehicles through our network of 180 CNG filling stations, and provided PNG connection to approximately 0.82 million domestic households, over 2,600 commercial and 55 industrial consumers in Mumbai and its Adjoining Areas. For Fiscal 2015, our CNG and PNG businesses accounted for 74.09% and 25.91%, respectively, of the total volume of natural gas sold, and 65.10% and 34.90%, respectively, of our total gas sales revenue. For the three months ended June 30, 2015, our CNG and PNG businesses accounted for 73.91% and 26.09%, respectively, of the total volume of natural gas sold, and 70.71% and 29.29%, respectively, of our total gas sales revenue."
1479.16. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | May 8, 2016 2:58:36 PM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
Thanks Eagleye. It is my mistake. I didn''t go through the all pages of DHRP.
Now I have more concern about the growth of MGL. At present it''s 75 percent revenue comes from CNG and 25 from PNG. Day by day except Delhi -NCR ,sale of CNG vehicle (small vehicles) is decreasing because petrol prices is not high compared to CNG. At present IGL, Adani enter. enjoying good profit because of GAS prices is very low. As soon as it bounced back it will effect their balance sheet.
I need to study more about future plan of MGL. If company is commited to increase PNG business then no problem. It''s very costly to increase PNG business because of infrastructure cost of pipeline etc.
1478. mehul mehta |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 12:43:38 PM
thanx siddharthbhai
1477. Sidharth Sahni |   Link |  Bookmark | May 7, 2016 12:41:10 PM
Well I am sure about whether the solution for unblocking is relevant to all or not, but I will share my experience in case its helpful.

I have my DEMAT and Trading A/c with HDFC Securities. Up till today morning my HDFC Bank savings account was showing the said amount as blocked. Just like everyone I was perplexed to see why is this happening when I have not been allotted any shares. I logged into my HDFC Securities account and saw the funds being blocked my them and not by the exchange/registrar. I requested for release of the funds and the same was done immediately and now my funds are free.

This sought of a thing happened for the first time. In earlier cases where no allotment was made, the funds got released automatically without any request.

Well I am not sure whether this will be the case with everyone, but it might help some of you.