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116. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 2:15:39 PM
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116.1. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 2:20:43 PM
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116.2. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 3:38:11 PM
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115. CA nkn |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 3:11:38 PM
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114. AnilKr |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 2:10:57 PM
Analysis of IPO in Hindu Business Line

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Tejas Networks: Connecting to growth

RAJALAKSHMI NIRMAL
This network equipment maker should benefit from the rapid growth in data traffic

June 11, 2017:
The Indian listed space has many software service providers, but the global slowdown in technology spends has made the sector unexciting. Investors still keen on technology stocks can consider the upcoming initial public offer (IPO) of Tejas Networks, a products company.

Tejas’ products are used to build high-speed communication networks that carry voice, data and video traffic from fixed line, mobile and broadband networks over optical fibre. Its customers include telecom and internet service providers, utility companies and government entities.

With the rapid growth in data traffic, thanks to the increasing penetration of smart phones, opportunities are plenty for players in the network equipment space. Further, the Centre’s Digital India initiative and Smart cities push are opening up new prospects.

The company’s offer document highlights that it holds a 15 per cent share of the domestic optical networking market, and that it is the second largest player (next to Huawei with 36 per cent market share).

Tejas is making a fresh offer of shares to raise Rs 450 crore. Some existing shareholders of the company are also selling their stock worth Rs 326 crore in the offer. At the upper end of the price band of Rs 250-257, the company is asking for a valuation of 25 times its estimated earnings for 2017-18. This looks a little expensive. In FY17, revenue growth was 40 per cent (against annual average of 25 per cent in the last four years) and profit growth was 122 per cent.

If there is a slowdown in capex of telecom players or if the pace of rollout of BharatNet or other government projects falters, revenue growth may moderate. Also, since Tejas is a product company, the R&D and manpower costs are large. The net profit margin is about 8 per cent. Profit may be hit sharply if revenue does not grow fast enough to cover fixed costs as was the case in the past — in two out of the past four years, it posted a loss.

Tejas doesn’t have any strict comparables in the listed space. However, D-link, a networking equipment manufacturer for the home and enterprises segment, and Sterlite Technologies, an optical fibre cable firm, have the same growth drivers and opportunities.

Sterlite, whose revenue is thrice that of Tejas, trades at 23 times its expected earnings of FY18.

Opportunity
With rapidly rising data traffic, the future looks promising for players in the networking equipment space. The Digital India and Smart cities programmes translate into increased spend on optical fibre networks. While the target is to reach 2,50,000 gram panchayats through BharatNet (optical fibre network), only 19,785 have been connected till now.

As the government goes ahead with its digital initiatives, the demand for data, and thus for networking equipment, seems set to grow. Further, since all telecom service providers are increasingly looking at 3G and 4G services to grow market share, it is becoming essential to invest in optical fibre transmission to improve user experience. India has just 15-20 per cent of its cell towers connected on fibre compared to 70-80 per cent in developed countries.

India is Tejas’ principal market, contributing 60-70 per cent of its annual revenue. The rest comes from Central America, Africa and South-East Asia. Its top customers are Bharti Airtel, Tata Communications, Aircel, BSNL, Power Grid Corporation of India and RailTel Corporation of India. Most of Tejas Networks’ competitors are global companies such as Huawei, Nokia, ECI Telecom, Ciena, ZTE and Fibrehome.

Business
Tejas provides an end-to-end portfolio of optical and data networking products across all three types of networks — access, metro and long haul. Simply put, the company makes equipment that connect communication devices such as computers, phones and audio/video conferencing systems, to the internet.

Like most other hardware players, Tejas too outsources its manufacturing. This helps it grow revenue without the capex burden. Two vendors — Sanmina Corporation and Rangsons Electronics (a Cyient company) — handle end-to-end contract manufacturing for the company. They procure the components, manufacture the printed circuit boards (PCBs), test and assemble them and then ship the PCB cards to the company. Tejas handles the product assembly, integration of software and hardware and the final product testing in-house.

Known for its innovation in networking equipment and the ability to adapt, Tejas has successfully crossed the technology shifts from 2G to 3G and later to 4G. The company invests a significant amount in R&D — 8-12 per cent of its revenue annually over the past four years. In FY17, when the revenue was Rs 878 crore, the company spent about Rs 70 crore on R&D. The cost of materials consumed works out to about 60 per cent of sales. So, with input costs, R&D related manpower expenses and other miscellaneous outlay, the operating margin comes to 19-20 per cent. However, while this operating margin looks healthy, at the net level, depreciation and interest costs pull down the margin to 8-9 per cent.

The company has shown good improvement in managing its working capital cycle in recent years. Its receivable days have improved from 265 in FY15 to 160 in FY17. However, since it has to pay its creditors in 93 days (trade payable days), its working capital requirements are high. Most of the borrowings are short-term in nature and used for working capital requirement. Tejas had debt of Rs 225.9 crore in FY17 and interest costs were Rs 31.5 crore.

Risks
While future is promising for the networking equipment business, there are some risks to investing in Tejas. First, given the company’s notable fixed costs and the increasing R&D expense every year, there is the risk that the profit may slip to the red in the years when sales is lacklustre.

Two, since technology is changing rapidly, it may render some of the company’s products obsolete. This could materially impact profitability. In FY13, for instance, the company had to write off assets worth Rs 38.6 crore due to change in technology.

However, given that the company has a large product portfolio, it is largely hedged from a one-off exceptional event.
113. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 12:55:06 PM
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AU Financiers IPO – Schedule – Tentative

27th June – Anchor List
28th June – Offer Opens
30th June – Offer Closes
05th July – Finalisation of Basis of Allotment
06th July – Unblocking of ASBA
07th July – Credit to Demat Accounts
10th July – Listing on NSE & BSE


AU Financiers IPO – Issue Information: (Tentative)

Issue Opens on: 28 June 2017
Issue Closes on: 30 June 2017
Issue Type: Book Built Issue IPO
Issue Size: 5,34,22,169 Equity Shares
Face Value: Re 10 per Equity Share
Issue Price: Rs.335 – Rs.337 per Equity Share (Tentative)
Market Lot: 44 Shares
Listing At: NSE, BSE

Equity Shares outstanding prior to the Issue = 28,42,50,906 Equity Shares
Offer for Sale of 5,34,22,169 Equity Shares @upper price band = Rs.1,800.33 Crores
Equity Shares outstanding after the Issue = 28,42,50,906 Equity Shares

Category-wise Break up:
Anchor – 1,57,26,649 Shares = 529.99Crs
QIB – 1,04,84,434 Shares = 353.33Crs
NII – 78,63,326 Shares = 264.99Crs
RII – 1,83,47,760 Shares = 618.32Crs (Lot size: 44 = 4,16,995 Forms)
Empl – 10,00,000 Shares = 33.70Crs

Total Issue – 5,34,22,169 Equity Shares = 1800.33Crs.

Subscription required for 1X
RII = 4,16,995 Forms
NII = 264.99 Crs

Interest cost @6%p.a. for 7days = 38.778paise for 1X


AU Financiers IPO – Financial Information (Basis of Valuation)

EPS for FY13-14 >>> Rs.2.99 (Page #108 of DRHP)
EPS for FY14-15 >>> Rs.5.31 (Page #108 of DRHP)
EPS for FY15-16 >>> Rs.9.28 (Page #108 of DRHP)
EPS for 6M16-17 >>> Rs.6.26 (Page #108 of DRHP)

RoNW for FY14-15 >>> 12.14% (Page #109 of DRHP)
RoNW for FY14-15 >>> 18.19% (Page #109 of DRHP)
RoNW for FY15-16 >>> 24.70% (Page #109 of DRHP)
RoNW for 6M16-17 >>> 39.99%** (Page #109 of DRHP)
(** Not annualized and includes exceptional item)

NAV as on September 30, 2016 was Rs.62.46 (Page #109 of DRHP)

Peer Group (Page #110 of DRHP):
Bajaj Finance
Sundaram Finance
Cholamandalam Investment & Finance Co.
RBL Bank
IndusInd Bank
Equitas Holdings
Ujjivan Financial Services
112. bangalore king |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 12:04:42 PM (400 Posts)
Weaknesses

The market is highly competitive with large global competitors like Huawei corporation, Nokia corporation and Ericsson with deep pockets, known brands and much wider technical capabilities compared with TN.

High client concentration as 58% of the revenues comes from BSNL, Bharat Broadband, Bharti Airtel, Aircel and Tata Communication.

Trade receivables, which were at 265 days in FY 2015, have come down to 160 days but continue to remain high and stretch the working capital requirements. Nearly 45% of total consolidated FY 2017 sales are from public sector undertakings. Hence, working capital strain is likely to continue.

Total intangible assets stood at Rs 134 crore in FY 2013 and came down to Rs 83 crore in FY 2017 after the company wrote off intangible investments of Rs 39 crore in FY 2013 and Rs 30 crore in FY 2017. While it positions itself as R&D and technology provider, such write -offs are quite disturbing and affect the financials.

Financial performance is highly fluctuating. There was consolidated loss of Rs 79.04 crore in FY2013, net profit of Rs 2.76 crore in FY2014, loss of Rs 17.87 crore in FY2015, net profit of Rs 29.01 crore in FY2016 and net profit Rs 63.22 crore in FY2017.

A large part of the operating expenses is fixed. Any fall in revenues due to loss of client or any major order can affect the margins and profitability.

Valuation

Consolidated net sales were up 40% to Rs 878.20 crore and the OPM increased from 18% to 19.8%, resulting in a 54% increase in OP to Rs 174.23 crore in FY 2017. With a 147% increase in other income to Rs 8.68 crore, 36% reduction in interest cost to Rs 31.52 crore and 48% spurt in depreciation to Rs 56.42 crore, consolidated PBT was up 227% to Rs 94.97 crore. There was an EO loss of Rs 30.47 crore due to write-off of intangible assets in progress. Thus, PBT after EO stood at Rs 64.50 crore. After providing total tax of Rs 1.28 crore, consolidated PAT stood at Rs 63.22 crore, up 118% over FY 2016.

At the higher price band of Rs 257, the diluted equity share capital stands at Rs 89.54 crore with face value of Rs 10 each. EPS for FY 2017 after considering EO adjustments works out to Rs 10.5. The scrip is offered at P/E multiple of around 24.6 times FY 2017 earnings. There are no listed peers in the line of business.
111. avinash nama |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 11:39:44 AM
Tejas Networks IPO Analysis.; An innovative company with considerable technical prowess but faces many headwinds https://is.gd/GcWMSI
110. ipomaharaja |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 11:32:04 AM
Hi ShareView,

I think when they say "pay as you grow" it only means that their products allow their customers to make incremental investments in their networks in line with the growth in user subscription base. It does not mean that the company will get paid later.

Also, 47 patents granted does not mean the remaining are rejected. It only means that the remaining applications are pending. Patent offices, whether in India or abroad, can take up to 5 years to process and approve a patent.
109. RAJGURU |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 11:18:56 AM
TODAY BOARD MEET TO DECIDE PRICE BAND..
108. chitra kamat |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 10:47:14 AM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
IMO this is a risky bet on account of several factors which includes rather rich asking price. For RII keen on investing in this sector, it may be advisable for shares to list and then take a call.
108.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | August 8, 2017 10:18:47 AM
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Tejas Networks IPO

Issue Price – 257


27-JUN-17 – 257 (Low)
11-JUL-17 – 377 (High)


08-AUG-17 – 335 (CMP)
107. Jainvipul |   Link |  Bookmark | June 12, 2017 8:48:25 AM
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One pop up coming repeatedly qnd irritate
Sir., please remove
106. pramod Arya |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2017 8:11:08 PM
One pop up coming repeatedly qnd irritate
106.1. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2017 10:33:29 PM
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admin sir, please remove this pop up.
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105. UPINVEST |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2017 9:33:31 PM
Sept sir

Pls give your advice..

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104. UPINVEST |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2017 6:45:15 PM
Sept sir

Pls give your advice..

Regards
103. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2017 6:33:46 PM
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Tejas Networks IPO
GMP 27 – 29
102. Eaglebrain |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2017 4:20:03 PM
Apply to the IPO, Subscription sought to be approx. 1.5X
101. Jainvipul |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2017 8:01:38 AM
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Basic Data of AU Financier
Revenue
FY 11-12=> 2,306.93
FY 12-13=> 4,130.84
FY 13-14=> 5,731.20
FY 14-15=> 6,894.08
FY 15-16=> 10,519.50
FY 16-17 6M=> 6,943.40
FY 16-17 9M(E)=> 9,257.86
FY 16-17 (E)=> 13,886.80
PBT
FY 11-12=> 553.87
FY 12-13=> 1,026.83
FY 13-14=> 1,096.51
FY 14-15=> 2,073.06
FY 15-16=> 3,772.43
FY 16-17 6M=> 2,642.43
FY 16-17 9M(E)=> 3,523.24
FY 16-17 (E)=> 5,284.86
EPS
FY 13-14=> 2.99
FY 14-15=> 5.31
FY 15-16=> 9.28
FY 16-17 6M=> 6.26
FY 16-17 9M(E)=> 8.35
FY 16-17 (E)=> 12.52
PE
FY 15-16=> 30.28
FY 16-17 (E)=> 40.85
Industry PE
Highest=> 41.54
Lowest=> 18.26
Avg.=> 29.19
P/B
FY 15-16=> 7.43
Industry P/B
Highest=> 6.96
Lowest=> 3.34
Avg=> 4.46
Pure OFS
No of shares offer: 53,422,169
Employee Quota: 1,000,000
QIB=> 26,211,084.50
Anchor=> 15,726,649.00
RII=> 18,347,759.15
Applicationwise=> 494,548.76
NII=> 2,209,594,423.35 1X
Data is based on DRHP
Waiting for Price Band
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101.1. MUDIT NATANI |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2017 2:23:14 PM
Without price/price band you have calculated PE ¡¡¡
101.2. ShareView |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2017 3:03:11 PM
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Nice info as all data is from prospectus itself.Based on above data if price band comes around 320-325 , we should go for it.In this sector MAS Finance would be the next IPO having similar business model.After merger Hinduja Leyland Finance might have withdrawn its IPO.
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100. basandani''''s |   Link |  Bookmark | June 11, 2017 11:59:32 AM
ANY KOSTAK ????????????
99. Dot |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2017 10:41:04 PM (200+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
AT FINANCE KOSTAK QUOTED
475
98. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2017 9:31:17 PM
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IPOs IN THE PIPLINE (Status as on 02nd June 2017)


A)      DRHP Filed – SEBI Approval Awaited

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3)      Matrimony.com >>> DRHP Dated 05-May-17
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6)      National Stock Exchange of India >>> DRHP Dated 28-Dec-16



B)      SEBI Approval Received (within the past 4 months)

1)      MAS Financial Services >>> DRHP Dated 24-Mar-17
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97. STOCKT |   Link |  Bookmark | June 9, 2017 8:25:04 PM
SPTULSIAN IS 100 % CORRECT. THIS IS A BAD IPO THATS WHY MAINLINE INVESTORS ARE LOOKING AT FULL EXIT. ITS DEPENDENT ON CLIENTS WHOSE FINANCIAL ARE IN DOLDRUMS. JAB BHI KOI STOCK EXPENSIVE VALUATION KE SAATH AAYE, HUGE DEBT ALSO, WORKING CAPITAL IS HIGH.

ASKING VALUATION OF 2350 CRORE IS TO HIGH FOR THIS.
DEKH LENA DISCOUNT PE LIST HOGA .BEVKOOF BANAKAR YE COMPANY APNE MAXIMUM PRICE PE NIKAL JAYEGI. SAB PREMIUM BAKWAAS HAI
97.12. AKH |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2017 8:33:34 PM
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I am not connecting on valuation but company has steady EBIDT above 17% which is good, but if company isn''t willing to repay debts then it will be tough to make positive profits.
Further if company wishes to fullfill working capital requirement from proceeds it might be possible that company is in liquidity crunch.
I have doubt over possibility of Listing gain but septa sir taking contra bet and applying ONE MAY TAKE RISK
97.13. KRB |   Link |  Bookmark | June 10, 2017 8:51:37 PM
AKH

If you want to rely on single expert for investment, then why keep commenting on others analysis, trail them and waste your time.

Just read those experts analysis and invest.

People waste valuable time and energy in analysis and you in no time pinpoint their analysis.

Hope you understand this and take my message positively.