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271. RAJUIPO |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 8:49:28 AM
What is the latest Issue Subscription Detail / Current Bidding Status ?
270. Arup |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 8:31:34 AM (900+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Eagle eye sir,after read ur comm...not apply. here 50% investor who followed you are not puting appli in team.it will take u higher side if team list negative. i amn''t so kind of expart but my view some listing gain waited for us.
270.1. starripo |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 9:18:58 AM
Me too cancelled 1 form out of 2..after all we too can fears.....
270.2. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 9:33:11 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Dear Arup,

Looking at the current GMP ... The chances of TSL listing to be in "Negative" Territory is almost negligible ... However I am not applying ...

I do not offer advise or give my opinions ... I only give facts or information that I believe to be from reliable sources ...

I consider it my moral responsibility to state my position (as a disclaimer) ... just so that tomorrow no one can accme to have misled this group

Also, if you will appreciate ... I have also given the reasons / rational for my decision ... I dont toss loose cannonballs ...

I have always maintained ... "SUNNO SABKI, KARO MANN KI"
269. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 8:26:45 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
TSL GMP 175-180
268. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 8:03:31 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Dear All,

Please note that I am not on any Whats App group ... "Chittorgarh Padharo Sa" ... I am always available here.

I regret any inconvenience caused.
267. vinod v |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 7:50:51 AM
see till end of today, otherwise stop allotment on tomorrow.
please give the procedure of stop allotment.
267.1. starripo |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 8:03:25 AM
Procedure simple....don''t apply....
266. Carn Mohan |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 7:33:14 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (1200+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
I have applied 6 application s.
265. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 7:28:01 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
The server of link Intime is down
265.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 8:16:45 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
it is working now
265.2. Hariprasad |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 1:06:44 PM
Septa ji,

Applied Teamlease?
264. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 7:22:02 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
TeamLease Services Limited

I AM NOT APPLYING

Fundamentally this IPO is at a very high valuation ... even during my meeting with the Management they have been unable to give me any sensible justification for such crazy valuations ...

Moreover, This IPO has been behaving very strangely in the Grey market ... it has only one sided liquidity ... at all rates there are only sellers ... no buyers ... which makes me uncomfortable about the correctness and the reliability of the GMP ... that has spooked me ... and therefore I AM NOT APPLYING
264.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 7:54:28 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
TeamLease is an another picture perfect IPO story just like Indigo ... will create euphoria & then disappoint the way Indigo have done ... It is one of a kind & has a good management perception but ... One should be seller after 3-4 days of listing as it is another euphoria in the making.

LIFO Stock ... I AM NOT COMFORTABLE IN TAKING SUCH HIGH RISK
264.2. ABJ |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 8:16:08 AM
going by your earlier rationale... put up 1 lot.... lets see how much lucky I get in lottery
263. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 6:39:41 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
I AM NOT APPLYING
263.4. Apex |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 7:23:37 AM
Eagleye thanks for valuable information
263.5. Hariprasad |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 1:44:02 PM
Eagle eye,

I got your points. But Subscriptions numbers looks very good. Making me to rethink.
262. Ashok Joshi |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 6:36:51 AM
Why not apply qib & nii
What is gray market
261. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 6:21:20 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
gap up opening of NSE and BSE Likely
260. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 4, 2016 12:06:50 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
TSL GMP @165-170
(seems to have stabilised)
259. Sanjay kant Sharma |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 10:46:40 PM
Koi nhi giyooo bhaiyo.. Gmp is still 240 and who applied please stay with passions. It will give good returt.. Inka to navkar me bhi giyoo tho or NH me bhi.. But koi kahi na giyooo. Sab kuch payoo hi... Teamlease a leading HR company having good rating of CRISIL.. And having 10 % share in market. Main motive of IPO is entring new sector like IT.
258. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:40:25 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Teamlease IPO ...
Latest trade in GMP @170
258.4. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:48:42 PM
Eagleye

Shall we apply any news from broker side
Premium here are Buyer at Rs. 166.
258.5. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 11:24:24 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Yes Arjun,
TSL GMP @165-170
(seems to have stabilised)
257. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:36:17 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
My Dear MPJain Sir,

I am just about beginning to understand you ....
You thrive on exaggerating things and sensationalising it disproportionately ...

You may write in CAPITALS ... to make your point loud ... but that does not make it correct ... you are misleading ... the correct GMP for Teamlease currently is 180-185 ... It never touched 87-88 as you mentioned.

By resorting to such childish antics you are only loosing your credibility ... and people will stop taking you seriously ...

Being right or wrong is part of the game ... being wrong is acceptable ... but being Foolish is not ...

Being a female ... in your MCP mind I may be fit only to work at home ... but In the real world no one cares ... However, people definitely do not respect such loose cannonballs ... which you throw up from time to time ... so please get relevant and try to add value to this forum ... instead of being a clown
257.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:39:07 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Today evening the GMP went down to 150 ... but now it is 180-185
257.2. rahulabhishek |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:51:01 PM
its very true..... i am big fan of u i agree with u
256. Lionbull |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:32:38 PM
We will only come to know only after 2 to 3 IPOs list. We will know the trend or forechina fall, Indigo sentiment etc)
255. cyclone |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:32:33 PM
eagle eye are you applying for team lease IPO.
254. ASBA |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:23:12 PM
Why there is so much panic during each IPO? First unrealistic premium flaunted, then get crashed. Is TLS going the PCL way??
253. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:14:11 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Ghost buyers in real estate: Fault lies with our banking system


Ghost buyers in real estate: Fault lies with our banking system

The Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has admitted that it has received some complaints against banks for giving home loans to ghost buyers. dna investigations reveal that loans to ghost buyers may be a larger problem in the accumulation of non-performing assets (NPAs).

"RBI has received complaints about it (ghost buyers), and is looking into the complaints" says RBI DG, S S Mundra.

Asked if RBI will take action, Mundra said, "We also agree to the issue you raised… We keep an eye on such incidents. We do investigate such schemes. There is a different NHP for housing loan. But if such loans are part of bank profile, we will certainly look into it.’’

According to dna investigations, builders find ''dummy'' buyers to apply for bank loans. Once the loans get approved, the dummy or ghost buyers hand over the money to the builders and in turn get 4-6% over the home loan rate as commission. Brokers or financers provide a "batch of buyers" to builders looking for large amounts like Rs 25 - 100 crores.

Brotin Banerjee, CEO and MD, Tata Housing says: “Yes! …can be done by investors on behalf of builders and maybe it''s one of the things keeping builders afloat in this market.

"If this kind of practice is in operation then, of course, investigation against such builders should be started”, Rohtas Goel, CMD Omaxe Ltd, added.

DLF’s CEO Rajiv Talwar, however, denied that such ghost buyers exist. “This does not appear to be correct. The cost of money would be too high if you raise the cost of borrowing by 4-6%. Also, home loans are the safest asportfolio of banks,” he said.

Currently, the real estate market scene is not comfortable, and builders and developers are hungry for money to give a breath to cash flow and businesses for survival They find ways to have cash flow move.

Dr Devinder Gupta MD, Dgs group said, "It is found that builders face a huge fund crunch and they are not able to get cheaper loans either from bank or private lenders. Banks'' finance cost to builders is usually 14-18% and private equity funding is about 18-22%. In the gray market, the cost is stupendous, ranging from 30 to 60% depending on builders’ collateral. In most cases, however, banks are no longer giving loans to builders, unless they unfair means."

The Modus Operandi:

Why it makes sense for a builder to create ghost investors with or without collaboration with banks.

Scenario 1:

Builder loan: For property worth Rs 3 crores, a builder gets finance at 30%, which means the builder will have to pay Rs 90 lakh interest per annum.

Scenario 2: Costumer loan: If a buyer takes home loan for the same property (Rs 3 Crore) he gets finance at 10% and he will have to pay Rs 30 lakh interest per year.

Thus the difference is Rs 60 lakh per year.

If a builder pays 10% down payment on behalf of a buyer, that is, Rs 30 lakh, then gives Rs 30 lakh a year to the buyer and pays Rs 30 lakh interest to the bank. Even then the builder saves Rs 30 lakh per year.

Ten deals like these will end up with the banks handing over Rs 25 crore to the builder, enough to pay salaries and pay interest on his previous loans.

Data from the Finance Ministry shows that the growth in banks'' home loan portfolio is higher for premium and expensive houses.

Qubrex’s MD Sanjay Sharma told dna: "The reality may be that instead of thousands of retail customers, the risk is being borne by a few hundred builders and the chances of them defaulting is very high"

Housing loan growth

September 2014      September 2015
Priority sector      9.40%      4.70%
High cost housing loan      14.90%      18%
New launches fall by 13%

Popular

Period      Housing units
H2 - 2014      1,50,471
H2 - 2015      1,31,445
Source: Knight Frank Research

(With inputs from Amol Dethe, Mumbai)
253.1. Virat Karani |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:39:35 PM
Good information.
252. MP Jain |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:11:06 PM
Mai confirm ho
NII 30X Hoga but NII sold shares at 240.
Now innocent retailers toh giyooooooooooooooooo...
Premium crashed now at 87....
BAAP RE BAAP
JO LAGAI VO TOH GIYOOOO
252.3. Arup |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:34:57 PM (900+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Nii kisko 240 me bech raha hai bhy00000000000000000
252.4. Virat Karani |   Link |  Bookmark | February 3, 2016 9:42:55 PM

Retailer to giyo.....jo lagaviyo...giyo

Could you please stop this non sense over here.