Big HNI concept is gone from main board ipos since new rules are implemented..(10 lakh rs app can be done by a retailer too with sound financials)
124.2. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2022 3:13:23 PM
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@Stockoholic I differ. It requires guts to put application for 10 lakh. Saw that in campus IPO (when people got allotment of 3.5 lakh range) and then they did not knew what to do For many retail investors 10 lakhs may be total capital. Even for a investor with 5 crore holding it becomes 2% holding without a price pattern in past
@arun I am talking about big HNI bids that used to take place before SEBIs new rule of cancelling proportionate allotment in HNI.
124.4. svh| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2022 5:20:06 PM
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Stockoholic already used words like since SEBI's new rule implemented or with sound financials etc etc. In campus those who applied for 10 lakhs have been allotted for 2 lakhs. If anybody is not aware what to do after allotment should keep distance from primary market investments. Most of the investors apply for listing gain on listing day and exit with profit or minor loss so it's not a big issue what to do after allotment.
TMB is already having 20000 plus Retail Shareholders, some of whom bought during the mid 1990s to around 2005 at prices ranging from 6 to 24 per share ( adjusted for 500:1 Bonus ). Also the Bank's Employees and loyal Customers are expected to support the Issue. Let us wait and see the demand on Day 1, 2 and the final Day.
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123.1. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2022 3:07:55 PM
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@admin If there is too much white space by entering too many return buttons then you can shrink it automatically.
123.2. svh| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2022 4:56:03 PM
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Axis Bank - in terms of allowing up to 10 different account to apply. Cut off time is 3.00 PM. User friendly menu.
119.3. svh| Link| Bookmark|
September 5, 2022 4:06:48 PM
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Canera's advantage is cut-off time up to 4 PM on last day. PNB's advantage is this is the only bank left which allows 3rd party application from net banking while sometimes it extends cut-off time on last day from 3 PM to 3:30 , 4 PM in case issue is heavily subscribed on last day. Both have its own advantage.
@MRavi sir,Jeethalal sir and all other gurus in this forum. What are your thoughts on this issue. Shall we consider applying as the anchor buying price is happened at 510rs which is the lower price band of the issue. How it will effect the bidding price(does the allotment price will be fixed at 510) and how does it impact the listing? Finally, Will you consider to apply in this ipo or rather skip it. Thanks Your follower
118.1. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2022 11:08:55 AM
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Retail IPO applicant should apply on cutoff price (Retail is just 10%) Let QIB, BHNI and SHNI decide the price. LIC did not get a single share in Maruti's IPO as they decided to apply at lowest price band (Rs 115). I applied on cutoff price (Rs 125) . At that time there was no upper price band
@arunARUN Thanks for expressing your thoughts. You seem to be experienced guru as it is evident from the Maruti's IPO analogy, investing at least from past 20 years and that is the beauty of the this forum as everyone from zero to hero's are sharing their thoughts and budding investors like me are benefitting from this knowledge. Coming to this IPO, Considering retail portion is just 10% there wont be much sell of on the listing day and volatility should be normal. I am looking for listing gains or at least short term gains, should I take risk for it by applying for three(3) lots each from four different applications. Will you consider for applying and for how many lots? Thanks
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September 4, 2022 10:49:48 AM
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GMP Crashed due to anchor allotment at lower price band 510/- GMP 6
117.1. PSR| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2022 11:03:00 AM
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116.1. sdz| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2022 6:50:14 AM
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Haha should the dog wag it’s tail or tail wags the dog 🤣 Who’ll have deeper information about a company, anchor investors FIIs/DIIs or general qib and individuals? It shows anchor investors don’t have confidence in the bank, but how come 3% difference matter for them to bargain and reduce image of the entire IPO.
116.2. PSR| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2022 10:45:10 AM
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As per rules you are correct.
Practically fixing the price above Rs. 510 will not happen.
116.3. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2022 11:00:45 AM
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So lower price for investor is good or bad from 1 year holding point of view? Anchors have been tough on all issues since 90 day lockin started for 50% of their holdings. I don't believe in special anchor judgement. As per that LIC share should not have fallen to where it has. For banking stocks there is enough information for judgement available to all investors
I have seen many IPO where retail is only 10% and GMP go downward spiral before IPO closing and after retail and hni deserting, GMP turns negative and the night before listing GMP starts improving. I participated in most of such IPO and benifited, Gland, Zomato,sona, Aether, Vedant, ruchi soya and many more with very good allotment .so watch closely and take a decision on the last day. Gmp movement is most of the time misleading.
It's biggest negative point is its legal issues pending and contingent liability.
Financial are no doubt good, but looking at its negative point, we may get this below issue price also. GMP is also not encouraging so better to do homework in secondry mrkt.
The legal issue is going for more than 25 years and bank is performing well when compare their peers. Hence we may discount the legal issues while applying IPO.
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September 3, 2022 11:28:37 PM
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108.1. k l patel| Link| Bookmark|
September 3, 2022 11:46:49 AM
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some comparison of tmb with karnataka bank(kb). both are old banks both south india based both dont have promoters kb has more branches than tmb kb has more revenue n profit than tmb kb share price much cheaper than tmb ( P/E and P/B wise) kb paying dividends regularly. then anyone can explain why one should go for this IPO instead of buying karnataka bank
108.2. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
September 3, 2022 12:45:51 PM
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Yes Poor share price performance of Karanataka bank has been of concern. However one needs to remember that market has benefit of unpublished information by the way buyers and sellers act It is for Karanataka bank to prove its case to investors
108.3. Ou Ai| Link| Bookmark|
September 3, 2022 1:16:52 PM
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Let us care fully examine the revenue and profit numbers of Karnataka Bank and TMB for year 2020-21, If figures for TMB mentioned above are true, 2020-21 Karnataka Bank Rev 6232 Cr. Profit 483 Cr 2020-21 TMB Rev 4253 Cr Profit 654 Cr
Karnataka Bank (KB) with higher business, great number of branches makes lower profits than TMB. In fact TMB profits are 50% higher than KB at 2/3 revenues of KB. Karnataka bank never in its history crossed 500 Cr Profit convincingly. 2022 was the first year with 508 Cr.
Some observations mentioned are factually incorrect. TMB will command a premium and more efficient. TMB should be compared with CUB (City Union Bank) or AU Bank that are efficient regional community based well run banking institutions.
108.4. Ou Ai| Link| Bookmark|
September 3, 2022 2:18:35 PM
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* Please read "great number of branches " as "greater number of branches "
108.5. Nifty Singh| Link| Bookmark|
September 3, 2022 4:25:43 PM
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That was something, I observed and couldn't digest.
108.6. k l patel| Link| Bookmark|
September 3, 2022 5:59:33 PM
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concern with kb is that nobody owns more than 5% holdings. and in long term tmb may also face same problem if there is also no big share holder.
@Ashutosh, Recently applied for my Minor son and I went with following::
1) went with Prostocks as Demat account as widely recommended in this forum 2) I have an account in HDFC bank, so even for my son I went with HDFC bank and I'm Guardian. For both the accounts, there will be one customer ID and money transfer during IPOs is quiet easy.
These are my inputs, please go as per your convenience.