Syrma SGS Technology Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 28)

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Chances of 1 allotment of 14 lots

1 out 3 in bhni and 1 out of 13 in shni.. but I think u will get a lot in either of them out of luck

Good show, @ Kappo bhai.

How u gonna handle those much if allotted??

seems like SHNI and BHNI will be able to get their 14 lots for sure as it seems application wise it is just subscribed app wise

@Trueinfo
Thnx
@Professor
It's totally manageable
Line to line

@professor...... For once just imagine if this is your bread and butter and then it would all be doable .... Just for general understanding used above line

SHNI 29 / BHNI 3 / RETAIL 91

Fir bhi kuch khatak raha he....

@ sahukaar, kya khatak raha bhai? Kanha kya kami rah gayi?

look at small HNI !! yani upper middle class log kya daba ke bharte he boss.... new money flow like blood in ipo market ...!!

@SHAHUKAAR
U R A GEM OF THIS FORUM
SO AAP KITNI BHI APPLICATION KARO WOH CHAHE 1 RETAIL HI KYU NA HO HAM AAPSE CHOTE HI RAHENGE

sir i m simple common man...

just focusing on karma ...🥹😍

@kappo aapka kaam mujse bada he sir aur naam kaam se hi banta he... aapse sikhna padega itna manage kese kare !!

yaha family walo se otp lene me dum nikalta he 🤪

& the Anaconda Linkin Time is the registrar.... .

Just pray.....

👏👏

BHNI 1/4

How is it 1/4 ?

Retail : 1/5
Shni: 1/13 approx
Bhni: 1/3.3 approx

100% for 1 lot
85% for getting 2 lot

But still there is some chance of non allotment in unfamiliar case

Please tell anyone how much chances are there that I will get 1 or 2 confirmed lots in syrma as I applied 8 retail application in syrma

Current GMP almost 20 percent... Expecting subscription figures to fly high on final day..

I’m planning to apply from 3 accounts, all big HNI category 👊🏻
If FII continues to pump money for one more week, we might see new high of Indian stock market and then this IPO will also give bumper listing 🔥
Fingers crossed 🤞🏻

With these new HNI rules its difficult to take a call.
Any idea what could be the App wise figure in sHNI and bHNI?

@Noorul and all friends,
Good to see after long time a HNI thread. 👏👏👏
I will apply 2 Big HNI (just little above 10 L), all the best to everyone. 👍

Thanks

Great to be a member of main board IPO applicant after a long gap. This IPO needs an additional 10x ceremonial subscription.

I am planning to apply with 2 or 3 bHNI applications depending on final subscription, if funds are made available.

Best wishes...

Hi Noorul and MRavi !! Welcome to new IPO season 😜 Logged in 2days ago after longtime, good to see you both 👍

Thinking to apply in 1sHNI and 1bHNI. Any idea about application wise subscription in both categories?

Sir, I have already applied 2 Shni ,and 1 more Shni will make tomorrow last day.
I couldn't make 1 Bhni and 2 Shni due to funds stuck elsewhere.
Nevertheless, there are more than 70 IPOs still to hit Market. Will see if funds permit.
God willing..

Welcome back Mravi Sir..

I am basing my calculations on assumption that only exceptional HNIs will apply for more lot then minimum needed, most will apply for either 2L or 10L. Even @MRavi has confirmed so...

@SDZ, @K.Atar,
Thanks, and good to see you all. All the best to you for allotment and blockbuster listing.

@Avenue,
you did so much research on this new rules of HNI with many of the our friends like @ Noorul, @lokes...etc. Finally as you (we) wished, first IPO with known SHNI, BHNI spilt up. As you advised earlier, there is no use to apply more than 2L for SHNI and more than 10L for BHNI, and applying in BHNI has more chance than SHNI). Thanks for all your research and advise.
All the best to you Prabhat 😉

Thanks

Thanks Noorul for opening HNI thread.
Welcome back MRavi and SDZ.

Planning to apply in 2 BHNI provided funds get released from Veekyam.

All the best to everyone.

Hello all experts, @Ravisir, @Mravi sir, @lokesji, @noorulji.
Can you please explain again about SHni and BHni?
Also explain how allotment will work if applied for 8lacs v/s 12lacs?
Thanks in advance

Latest GMP 48... Tomorrow fire 🔥🔥 confirm .

@MRavi.. great you noticed...
I told well in advance that in coming days we will see messages like "applied 20 sHNI applications". Advantage of having multiple accounts is advent.

@noorul @mravi @sdz @Avenue How are you guys? 2 months seemed like a really long time.

I am also planning to go for 1 Bhni and retails applications.
Another company filed rhp today... If it turns out to be Bharat FIH, it's going to be a really good start to this leg of IPO season.

Applying 8 bHNI.
Hoping for big allotment and decent listing...
20% Premium is quite comforting at this stage. 🤞
While the new scheme doesn't assure allotment to HNIs but it gives to a chance to get bigger allotment.
Goodluck to all of you.

So minimum 67 lots is required in bHNI. Does applying for a whole number of lots like 70 be better in allotment chances ?

@ earn smart money.. application of more than 2 Lakh comes under small hni and above 10 lakh falls under big hni.. and no advantage for applying above 2 or 10 lakh in both categories respectively if issue is already oversubscribed like this one.
@ Bottleneck.. anything above 67 lots not going to make any difference in over subscribe ipo.. In case of under subscription you will get the proporsnate allotment on above 67 lots application.
@mog, sdz , k.atar and other friends nice to see you back in action after a 2 months period... Missed your presence... Well didn't missed @avenue and @ mravi sir... Because connected on watsapp group... Let's wish this ipo season prove to b another block buster and give money rain in monsoon.

Will apply for 5 bHNI & 2 sHNI tomorrow.

This b & s scheme has again put HNI on lottery system like retail investors. May be good for sHNI but bad for bHNI.

@all,
Applied one more Shni application made, now final count is 3.
Funds from Veekayem not released, was prepared for this scenario also.
Now out of 3 sme IPOs open which one everyone will aim after done with Syrma IPO.

Hi noorul, MRavichandran, Avenue, sdz - so nice to see you guys again. Lokesh is missing? Did not see his message here yet?

Noorul what is your strategy for this one. I'm still sitting on gains copying yours and MRavichandran strategy in earlier IPOs.

Hi guys...I will be applying 2 BHNI applications here and 2 retail, i have 2 accounts only mainly where funds can be arranged/transferred....
these days i am busy in office work so not giving much time here and not doing any analysis too.....

Until now I have applied all the IPOs with one lot only. First time jumped to HNI category and applied only 1 application in HNI. It is quite a big amount for me. So I have qualified for writing my comment in HNI thread. Thanks

Hi lokes - nice to see you too. I'm sorry i misspelt your display name as Lokesh instead of lokes in my earlier message.

Best of luck to everyone.

Applied 2 SHni application ( 14 lot each )

@niteenipo: no issues and my real name is lokesh only so you was right anyways :)

And now one more mainboard ipo dates confirmed.

applied 5 sHNI

I think subscription figure is same for sHNI and BHNI, both 5x, so chances are same in both till now

@ avenue , Am i correct?

Applied 3 BHNI,3 SHNI,5 retail application

@bhav No. Ratio for bHNI allotment is 1:5 in case of allotment and sHNI is 1:1. So bHNI 5x=sHNI 1× for equal probability.

What is HNI thread? Please explain

@ lmhilli this thread is meant for high net worth investors ie application above 13 lots or value of application above 2 lakhs.

In HNI again there is sHNI > 2 lakhs and < 10 lakhs
bHNI > 10 lakhs

Bhni application chances?

@ riti

no as per new rules more than 1x subscription in any category will go in lottery, so big HNI already subscribed more than 1x so its lottery from total x subxcription

@Bhav.. completely wrong.. at same subscription bHNI will have almost 5 times more chance. I wrote in detail earlier somewhere, let me find it for you..

@Imhilli... HNI thread is a group where we discuss HNI application related issues. However all are welcome to join and comment....

I am applying one bHNI and one sHNI

BHNI n SHNI are going neck to neck in terms of subscription. But this reflects amount put in these applications and not no of applications. My last BHNI application was in campus IPO. There one can see that sHNI was 14x amount wise and 12x application wise...so not much room for improvement in chances. But when you look at bHNI applications, it was 26x amount wise but only 14 times application wise. And because shares worth 2 Lakh is allotted in both sHNI and bHNI, so the final allotment saw 1:12 allotment in sHNI and better than 1:3 allotment in bHNI. So bHNI allotment was much better even though bHNI was 26x compared to sHNI that was 14x amount wise. (4times *2= 8 times better chances in bHNI roughly)
In Syrma my expectation is that if bHNI end up
*10x then every applicant gets shares woth 2 L
*20x then it will be 1:2 and so on.... of course this new rule is still in its nascant stage and data can differ greatly

In sHNI I expect the ratio to be only slightly better than subscription figures.

Probability of allotment in sHNI and bHNi for any given x subscription can not be confirmed as we don't know the application numbers. Many bHNi may apply huge lots, so can be confusing.

In an Ideal case, when all sHNI and bHNI apply at lower limit of 2 lacs and 10 lacs only, 10x sHNI subscription and 47.85x bHNI subscription, both sHNI and bHNI will have 10% chance of 14 lot allotment.

My understanding... Rest you all can calculate....

@ avenue

yes mu mistake,

went through Venus and campus BOA, total Bhni X / 5 will be chances

anyway i put 5SHni. wanted to keep more lot in olatech.

anyone knows how to modify application for HNI in indusind

@nurool,@Avenue @lokes,@Mravi and others experts,
What would be satisfactory QIB subs here to reinforce subscription, it's yet to pick up,only meager 3×,not impressive.
Thanks

@sbipo.. I m not worrying about qib.. anchor list was superbbb and dats matters a lot.. apply with FF.
Most probably small hni ratio 9 :1
Big hni 4:1

Approximately
BHNI - 4,200 (1:2.5)
SHNI - 2,100 (1:10) &
Retail - 2.06L (1:2.5) lucky people are going to win the lottery 👍

@Noorul - How did u come up with 4:1 for BHNI as it is already over subscribed by 10 times shouldn't it is already 10:1? or am i missing something here?

Funds released in ICICI... finally

BHNI NO OF SHARES 4556 ?
ENTER PRICE AS 220 INSTEAD OF SELECTING CUTOFF PRICE?
CAN SOMEONE CLARIFY PLEASE

@Pratham... HNI can not choose cutoff, you have to specify price.
Write 220/-

its heartening to see all the celeb names check in on the HNI thread. 😊

Chalo KHELA HOBE.. 😜

Not much analysis to do, going in with 4 BHNI and hoping for the best.🤞🤞

Thanks @Avenue

@ Justalearner : Good analysis. we can hypothesize then that that OS by numbers will be about 10% of actual OS for BHNI.
Interesting ...lets see how it pans out.

Applied 2 sHNI

bHNI have more chance as many bid will be for higher amount whereas sHNI , mostly 14 lots.

Dear all,
Applied 2 HNI with 69 lots each🤞
All the best to you all for allotment and good listing

Thanks

Applied 1BNHI, 2SHNI ,2RII
Hope at least 1 cracks

Applied 10 sHNI apps...dont know if this was the right strategy but i could have gone for 2 bHNI also. comments pls? keeping some balance for Olatech as well

Confused... Please guide me...

Which has more chances?
- 2 bHNI Applications of 69 lots each? OR
- 1 sHNI Application + 1 bHNI Application

Looking at the subscription numbers applying anything above 69 lots will just block my funds for no reason. Am I right?

Applied for 3 bHNIs.... hope this doesnt dissapoint on allotment n listing day.... bit of a risk... Markets have peaked early. May not sustain the momentum next week. Anyhow, it will not list in discount for sure....

I have applied 4 bHNI applications for 67 lots each.
Best wishes to everybody...

Applied 1 Bhni 1 Shni

How many allotment is guaranteed for 68 lots? which is 4624 shares?

Applied in all categories - 2 bhni , 2 shni , rest retail apps.
Retail apps have good chance of allotment.

Applied 1 SHNI
and 5 Retail applications

Applied 9 sHNI ... hope this time some allotment comes from LinkIntime ... usually i have bad allotment history with Linkintime...

Applied 1 bHNI and 2 sHNI

Applied BHNI 75 lots & one RII. Let us see how it spans. Both seem to have similar probability at this point.

Can I apply, NII and retail quota with same PAN and Demat A/C? please advise

Wow subscription numbers are amazing. I wonder if the listing gains could cross 30% , 40% or even 50% perhaps.

Best of luck to everyone.

what are chance get allotment
in SHNI 15 per 1
and in BHNI 19 per 1 ?
can any body explain.

@noorul @lokes @MRavi @sdz @avenue @sbipo @Mog and other buddies...

Great to see you guys after ages. Just wishwd to say hi and best of luck to all applicants.

I could just manage 8 retail applications.... All money already invested in the primary mkt now 😉

Hi M.K. Welcome to new IPO season 😀 and very good to see you along with all friends.

Looks like someone is making huge profits in secondary market and not atall interested to book profits to invest in primary market 😜

All the best for the IPO 👍

Since the final subscription numbers are out. Could someone explain the expected basis of allotment.
The lot size is 68 shares irrespective of Retail/ SHNI / BHNI or
The lot size is 952 shares for SHNI and 4556 shares for BHNI

@noorul How do I send my mobile number across without displaying in a public forum?

@lokes thanks buddy... Kabhi hit kabhi miss jaa raha hai.... Some rise and a few sink lower... Still I feel I'm making much more than making HNI applications in IPOs.... Will have to track a few IPOs and the SHNI and Bhni allocations to formulate the new Plan of Action...btw, have 1 🌟 performer in my PF now (A.E. 😃) Will book some profits soon to plough back into IPOs

Good to know about your portfolio performance dude 👏👍

yes, it’ll take time to switch back to IPO mindset and plan according to new HNI rules. Hope this IPO list continues for long and successful too 😉

@MK @sdz @MOG @NiteenIPO and all other friends joining back,. really good to see you back after a long time. Looking forward for a great IPO season ahead.

@MK.. you may go through discussion in SME IPO Fidel Infotech, 352.55

Applied 5 shni

Welcome back all the old champs.. in the new ipo season...
@M.k. Hope now you are done with your Maldives tour with your better half.. :)

Without this HNI Thread... CG is simply boring :)
Now a days not seen much participation by HNIs... Please be active same like earlier.... Discussion of these champs engaging the forum members most..

@ aspirant
you are absolutely right.

Applied 4 BHNI 7 SHNI 2 Retail

Hope atleast some allotment . All the best guys .

Hello all respected members..
Applied 2 sHNI & 8 retail application
I am new comer & silent observer of this forum.. take decision after reading discussion.. specially @noorul sir, @Avenue sir, @Mravichandran sir, @looks sir, @anantnag sir, @Bhav sir, @M.K sir.. @Jethalal sir and lots more senior members.. when I see you here feel reliable.. your discussion guide me to take decisions..

Welcome @all old champs as well as new ones to the newest ipo season... Hope we all again makes a good wealth with healthy discussion...
Current GMP of Syrma is near 60rs. All the best for allotment.

Thanks Noorul and wish you all the same. As listing in profit is confirmed now, everything depends on lottery allotment luck 👍

I applied in 1 BHNI, 2 SHNI and 2 retail. I should’ve planned well a day before and applied in 5BHNIs. With sudden jump in GMP, riskiness fear turned quickly into opportunity loss 😜

220 *68=14960*15lots=224400
if I apply for 15 lots then how much allotment will I get?
1 lot out of 15 ,or complete 15 lots

@ Iposandy, anyone will get 14 lots only subject to allotment by lottery in the ratio of about 1:13.

Bhni allotted 14 lots Shni 0/1, good luck everyone

4/8 bHNI
Just received bank debits.
Hope this GMP sustains.
Good Luck to all the allots...

Congrats @ultrasnow @Prabhjot which bank did you apply from? Any news from Kotak ASBA HNI bidders?

0/10 sHNI... No debit message from Axis, HDFC or SBI yet.

Congratulations Ultrasnow
Congratulations Prabhjot

0/4 in bHNI applications..

No message but all ICICI funds released.

@NITEENIPO Applied via Icicidirect

@ultrasnow Cheers mate. I sincerely hope this gives you bumper listing.

Thanks for the kind words NITEENIPO, pure luck to get 1/1 bhni, good luck to you and everyone here

@niteenipo I'd applied through YesBank netbanking. Thank You.
@avenue Hard luck mate. Better luck next time

0/3 bHNI..... :(

No allotment for 1 bHNI and 2 sHNI applications.

Lesson learnt .will not apply minimum lot if applying more than 3 bHNI or 5 sHNI . Will apply unique lots .I tried this trick in campus and atleast got in one application . Here 0/4 bHNI ,0/2 sHNI and 0/1 in retail .So Sad.

Applied 1 BHNI of 75 lots and got one allotment of 14 lots. Congratulations to all those allotted.

How many Lots allotted in BHNI Category?
I got just 14 Lots out of 67, Did other people get more or all got 14 lots only?

I also got 1/1 retail & partial 14 lots from my BHNI Application.

Let me know if all got this many lots only or other people got more lots too.

Applied 5 retail and 1 SHNI
Received 1 allotment on retail application 😇

Congrats and best of luck to all.

Nil from 2bHNI, will try on listing day from market

Thanks

Surprisingly, more disappointments in 1:3x subscribed BHNI than in 1:13x SHNI. Not sure what must’ve been the reason behind this 🤷‍♂️

Got 1 from BHNI. Good luck all for listing.

@ SDZ.. in lottery it's possible.. check the above thread number .72 by @ avenue.

0/5 BHNI
0/4 SHNI
😒

Congrats and All the best Noorul 👏👍

Ya it happens in lottery but seeing most BHNI applicants in the group getting Nil compared to SHNIs felt so.

Mine 0/1 BHNI 1/2 SHNI 0/2 Ret

So, 952 shares. Hope it lists @ 270 and won’t fall later 😜

2/4 BHNI 0/7 SHNI 1/2 RETAIL

Total 29 Lots Alloted All the best for Listing .

Noorul,
you are a knowledgeable person. kindly guide whether I hold it for the long term or exit at listing.

@Noorul
If I have three d mat acc in different names but mail I'd registered is same can it be a reason for non allotment,thank u in advance for help and support

@nifty singh.. offcourse this one is for long term.. however there can b some pressure in early days because of profit booking..

@El Dorado... Mail id doesn't matter but Pan need to b different.

LOOKS it should see heavy application in retail

Not happenning.....