Some points nobody seems to be talking about, which are Suryoday''s biggest strengths:
1. Capital adequacy - best by far amongst SFBs; so while they have a unsecured lending book (typical in microfinance, nothing unusual), it''s well provided for 2. Institutional backing - please see the Offer Documents if you want indication of existing backers - investors include International Finance Corporation (part of World Bank), Gaja Capital, HDFC, IDFC, Kotak Mahindra Life etc. All are pedigreed names 3. Lean operations - Despite having so many backers, they haven''t gone crazy spending money, in fact their cost-to-income is lowest for the SFB industry 4. Type of operations - loans to the underserved, loans to women, loans to financially excluded. This is a personal opinion, but I think their target audience is vast and needs a lot of banking services 5. Ratios - RoAA and RoAE are excellent, NIMs are great
Following up, some points that everyone seems to be talking about for all the wrong reasons: 1. Promoter pledge - The promoter pledged his shares because he was required to bring in capital to make the promoter holding 26% or greater as per RBI norms. Promoter pledge in and of itself is not some earth-shaking issue, but should be viewed in the correct context. 2. Big litigation against a director - That director is a nominee for one of the PE investors, they always have some or the other litigation against them from their other investee companies (e.g. See Mrs Bector''s RHP) 3. Pre-IPO placements lower than IPO price - Placement to promoters was due to a deal inked earlier. Placement to pre-IPO funds is at discount since they take a one-year lock-in. 4. NPAs - Their actual Gross NPAs are 0.8%. I repeat 0.8%. They have as a matter of abundant prudence, disclosed the "ifs and buts" event of Supreme Court judgment going against them. In that case, the entire banking system is going to take that hit, not just them.
Source for all this - broker meet and offer documents. Please always read the numbers in correct context. Happy investing!
Helo @ Allued Investor bro, skip this person जब तक आप खुद परेशान न होना चाहे, तब तक आपको कोई परेशान नहीं कर सकता है। जब आप इसके कमेंट पे रियेक्ट/ प्रतिक्रिया ही नहीं करेंगे तो कहा तक ये आदमी आपको परेशान करेगा। आखिरकर दूसरे का टाइम ख़राब करने क लिए भी इनको टाइम चाहिए
You said correct thing bro. Actually I avoid his replies but he''s not stopping bro. That''s why. If anybody is contributing to d forum in good way people like this always come up to destabilize.
I GOT THIS REPLIED FROM LINKINTIME REGISTRAR. (FOR INFORMATION OTHER PERSONS ONLY)
Dear Investor,
Pursuant to SEBI circular (SEBI/HO/CFD/DIL2/CIR/P/2018/138) dated November 1, 2018, investor making application using any of the channels as specified in the above mentioned SEBI circular shall use only his / her own bank account or only his / her own bank account linked UPI ID to make an application in public issues. Applications made using third party bank account or using third party linked bank account UPI ID are liable for rejection.
An investor, intending to subscribe to a public issue, can download the bid-cum-application form from BSE/NSE website and shall submit the same to any of the following entities:
There are 4 modes of submission:
1. BANK ASBA: Investor may submit the bid-cum-application form, in person, with his ASBA banker (where he/she holds the saving account), at the designated branch as per list of SCSBs available on below link:https://www.sebi.gov.in/sebiweb/other/OtherAction.do?doRecognisedFpi=yes&intmId=34
2. ONLINE ASBA: Investor can use the online mode, if offered, using his trading account . Instruction to apply through this mode will be available with the respective DPs/Brokers/ Bank.
3. SYNDICATE ASBA (UPI): Investors have to first create their unique UPI ID account by downloading UPI apps available in the App store (eg., BHIM app/ PhonePe etc.)Investor then has to submit the bid cum application form, to his broker and use his/her UPI ID for the purpose of blocking funds. Broker will bid his/her application on stock exchange terminal and investor will receive Mandate Request for authorization to block the funds in his UPI linked bank account.
*Note: Retails investor can use any of the above 3 modes of application. However, UPI Mechanism is not applicable for QIBs and Non Institutional Investors (any application over Rs.2 Lakhs).
4) SYNDICATE ASBA (Broker ASBA): QIBs / NIIs / Shareholders applying above Rs. 2 Lakhs and Eligible Employees can apply thru their Broker who will bid the application and submit the bid-cum-application form to their respective Bank of the Investor for blocking of funds.
Investor intending to subscribe to a public issue, can also download the bid-cum-application form from BSE/NSE website.
Applications made using third party bank account or using third party linked bank account UPI ID are liable for rejection
Linkintime is following this, but other registrar like kfin is not following this, So question is if these registrar are private and are they allowed to change these rules as per their own convenient ? Why all registrar not allowing third party application or why not all rejecting third party applications?
Pelge is not Negative. U Know how many sun pharma shares are pledge....chittorgardh par aakar duniya dari thonke ka nahi.....tu samaj.....nahi tohh samjata hu.
Abey Nikal tu Kya samjhaega Promoter didn''t answer reason behind pledge on zoom call. This is not concerning. Aur rahi baat tere ca rank ki usse mujhe kuch lena dena nahi samjha. Shahane kauve. Jyada nahi bolneka. Pehle details pata kar bad me bol. Abhi nikal phut.
Its not much proportion of shares pledged, there are many well known companies who pledged more than 20_30% for loan purpose....like Adani transmission 27%, Hind Zinc 22%, DB Corp 48%, Pensulaland 28%, Dilip buildcon 27%....it''s not like company negative growth..... I think Suryodaya is one of the Good management track racord, and hope list on more then 30% premium...
Hiren I know about pledge But they are not telling d reason of pledge on zoom call. If they provide reason for pledge I will be more than happy. Then it''s clear why they pledge and their reasons behind that.
Allued Investor kyu yeda bankar peda khaa raha he....tuje pledge ka zero knowledge...kuch kam dhanda nahi he....chittorgardh me tp mat kar....ipo me tere jese dhakkan log bhi invest karte aur ek laga tohh pateli karne aa jate he
While pledging of shares by company or promoters is normal, but definitely a cause of concern for ipo investors. If they can get money by pledging shares what''s need for an ipo for them? Secondary market is at all time high.. so we have to keep watch on these type of ipo ..
28.11. lekker| Link| Bookmark|
March 14, 2021 12:22:05 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 2000+ Likes)
amit K sing
what''s need for an IPO?
One of reason is RBI mandatory rule to list every small finance bank in market. and they have deadline till march21.
Dont want to comment about pledge shares, recently IndusInd Bank pledged shares of 5.6% stake.it does not mean IndusInd share should go in risk. we need find reasons why please shares is done.
But unfortunately, in India no one takes RBI and Sebi rules seriously.. otherwise karvy would not changed it''s name to KFinTech and running business as usual. Jana small bank and Esaf small bank , no news on thier ipo if rbi rule is so strict..
28.13. lekker| Link| Bookmark|
March 14, 2021 2:53:03 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 2000+ Likes)
Few SFB still have extension.
28.14. lekker| Link| Bookmark|
March 14, 2021 2:57:04 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 2000+ Likes)
Not interested on karvey to kfintech matter, stick to point.
i was putting point why so many ipos including suryoday at same time, its not really becs market is high, its becs these companies going to loose their approval post march.
If suryodaya doesn''t really want to make use of high secondary market for their ipo timing, they would have also got extension like Jana and Esaf.. rbi rules and sebi rules are not so strict in India...
28.16. lekker| Link| Bookmark|
March 14, 2021 4:46:23 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 2000+ Likes)
No extension, only given to equitas due to COVID situation
RBI guidelines The Reserve Bank of India (RBI) guidelines require small finance banks to list within three years of their net worth reaching Rs 500 crore.
Of the 10 entities that had started SFB operations, only three, including AU,Ujjivan and Equitas, have been listed so far
Lekkar, I know the facts that''s why commenting. Other small banks have also achieved 500 crore revenue before 2017, but they are yet to come up with an ipo..
28.18. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
March 14, 2021 7:46:29 PM
IPO Guru (2000+ Posts, 1700+ Likes)
@amit k Singh It is not revenue but networth which is sum of equity plus free reserves level crossing Rs 500 crores on an audited date (as free reserves can be determined only post audit)
When Dulla Dullan and both parties are ready and market (muhurt) is also good then why to wait and hold marriage?
Else everyone knows what happened with equitas small finance bank, they did not come before march 2020, then market crashed they again missed Sept2020 deadline.
Equitas Small Finance Bank had already been penalized by RBI for missing its listing deadline in September 2020. The bank cannot open any more branches and its chief executive officer’s remuneration was frozen until they completed listing.
All are having their own concerns and conditions and here people are expecting that they should come with IPO when market is low? strange do you buy when market is in boom? do you sell when market is already corrected? Think this first.
If company already completed all formalities then its company choice when to come and list in market, if you don’t like fundamentals you can skip.
As part of the offer for sale, International Finance Corporation will sell 43,87,888 equity shares, Gaja Capital Fund II will offload 20,21,952 shares, DWM (International) Mauritius will sell 18,89,845 shares, and HDFC Holdings will offload 7.5 lakh shares.
Other shareholders participating in offer for sale are IDFC First Bank (to offload 15 lakh shares), Americorp Ventures (1 lakh shares), Kotak Mahindra Life Insurance Company (1,86,966 shares), and Gaja Capital India AIF Trust (1,06,419 equity shares).
24. Aniketiaf| Link| Bookmark|
March 13, 2021 9:49:40 PM
IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
Good evening to all.
As, 7 IPOs ( including Easy trip ) have approached within 10 days, I think it''s the only reason that Kalyan jewel , Craftsman Automation and Suryoday SFB are placed at bottom of every one''s priority list.( GMP has also some impact) But, If these IPOs would have been coming at one week interval, then all these could have been getting good response. So, it''s sincere advice to keep Connoisseur Eye on all the IPOs. Some Dark Horses may be hidden among them.