Day light robber that is what i will tell about this IPO if you at last year profit EPS comes at 300 yes 300. now half yearly it showing an EPS of around 9 giving at PE of 40.... in that 6 months the whole india was in lockdown and these guys did such good sales hard to believe when it peers did really worse ( TTK prestige and Hawkins).
also this company has more then 30 case and on promoters another dozen cases ok i can understand civil but criminal and statuary case( Tax case) cooperate governance issue.
so first it is highly price second all the issue with the company
the is Avoid on all front one of the worst IPO of the decade just trying to get money from market in this bull run..... WORST IPO OF THE DECADE IF YOU FIND A BUYER FOR APPLICATION SELL THE APPLICATION IF NOT STAY AWAY
JUST FOR COOPERATE GOVERNANCE ISSUE I WILL AVOID THIS PLUS FINANCIAL IS COMPLETELY COOKED IMO HOW COME IN LOCKDOWN THEY MADE SUCH GREAT PROFIT MUST HAVE FIRED ALL THE EMPLOYEES WHO KNOWS ANYWAY I AM NOT APPLYING THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION
If promoter track record is bad and he is involved in some legal cases then it''s big avoid for me...I don''t want at least block my money for wrong person... Financial cooked with using stove which they are making... Also they are in so much hurry to encash money from bull markey...if they can wait for March 21 qtr then they can show three years consistent profit...ipo is in hurry...
It seems company saves salaries of employees and shows it as profit as it was closed for 2 months also capitalize by sc order paying 50% salaries for 6 months during pandemic boosting net profit and rushed to ipo before budget ....market always punished such types of management imo...
141.4. P Patel| Link| Bookmark|
January 23, 2021 11:49:28 AM
IPO Mentor (900+ Posts, 900+ Likes)
Septaji - Exactly what I am mentioning this since beginning of the this IPO. Not at all convinced by the drastic rise in net profit and EPS in H12021.
your words are suggestions for others but for me its a clear instructions for me ............... i still remember listing of APOLLO MICRO SYSTEM .......... friends who wrote gate during subjective screening QnA can see how easy it is today...... today objective. .......lots of love ........keep guiding
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January 26, 2021 8:31:13 AM
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Legal issue financial book is completely window dressing this is avoid in all front. BTW have the management come in blue channel and anchor asked hard question 🤔
Arunarun analysis on antony. It is a very good issue. Now see the price of Antony .Antony has huge pledge shares. Same goes with stovecraft. Dodgy financial and huge debt. People decide urself. arunARUNNN (Dec 17, 2020 1:47:55 PM) For: Antony Waste Handling Cell Limited
Brookfield India Real Estate Trust REIT IPO Issue size: 3800 Crore
issue opens on 3 Feb 2021 Issue closes on 5 Feb 2021
Price Band: 274-275 Lot size 200 Units Application amount: 55000
institutional investor: 75% of the offer 10.36 Crore Units (on upper price band) Non Institutional investor: 25% of the offer, 3.45 Crore units, (on upper price band)
Never saw this type of financial of any company who comes for IPO.
The IPO is priced at 1166.7 times of FY19 earning (EPS 0.3); 301 times of FY 20 earning (EPS 1.3) and suddenly this huge PE drops down to only 22 Times of FY 21 based on the half yearly earning EPS figure of 11.6.
In terms of revenue there was not much change seen in FY 19, FY 20 and Cumulative FY21 (taking two times of half year figure of 3.288 billion). FY 19: 6.41 billion FY 20: 6.7 billion FY 21: 6.6 billion (2X 3.2095)
If the PE of Stove craft and PE of Butterfly Gandhimati for FY 21 is compared, then the valuation looks nearby. But when compare Stovecraft with peers on 3 year EPS and financial performance basis, then there is no comparison. Peers enjoy stronger balance sheet and proven earning. So on track record, this company is dull and comlete failure in front of its peers. Though the company declared considerable improvement in first half year financial of FY 21, but improvement of this kind of earning is not sustainable.
@AlphaAlpha Even for listed big company like reliance industries, quarterly results are unaudited or with limited auditing. Expecting company like stove craft to provide verified and audited result for quarterly or half yearly period is a huge task. Moreover companies while filing RHP only provide this half yearly result and not with Draft Red Hearing Prospectus (DRHP) which is checked and examined by the regulator vigorously.
Not applying in Stovecraft IPO. A big no no, after seeing window dressing of financial of HY FY21. More over lot of cases against the promoters in courts. Some conflicts with regulators too.
138.6. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
January 24, 2021 10:23:48 AM
IPO Guru (1900+ Posts, 1600+ Likes)
Networth of Stovekraft was negative as CCDs till not converted are taken as liabilities. Please see major source of liabilities as per accounts of the company. CCDs were valued around 300 crores as per IND AS and seen as debt then obviously networth will be negative Company will be left with only 20 crore of debt if they use 95 crore of fresh money to reduce outstanding trade debt Please look data in above light and comment You may have additional point but networth point is clear
138.7. Adv Sarin| Link| Bookmark|
January 25, 2021 9:57:49 AM
Top Contributor (200+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
The truth is this company makes very poor quality products, the Pigeon brand is known for poor quality cheaper products, even having design flaws. Go to Amazon and read reviews of people who have purchased their products. Before this IPO I was under the impression this is some brand buying poor-quality Chinese products & branding them here in India,
138.8. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
January 25, 2021 10:05:49 AM
IPO Guru (1900+ Posts, 1600+ Likes)
@HML This may have to do with business of low ticket housing. Even Aavas and HFFC are in similar business. Repco had huge valuation on this basis but declined as NPA in this category can come at any time
in this IPO, I may not agree with @arnArun. Though I agreed with his analysis in Gland Pharma IPO and that time I applied too. I stick with my decision and not applying in this IPO. very shoddy financial.
I agree with Ganesh but completely disagree with arunarun. Not sure why he is wrongly doing promotion for this company. His last recommendation of Antony also had dodgy data. Antony being such a small scale company had huge pledge shares. Similarly stovecraft have dodgy cooled financial. How can one says that even after collecting money through IPO will be left with 30+ Cr debt and loss making previous years . So ideally it''s a huge loss making company. Butterfly is ruling cheaper and better financial. Not a single reason to apply.
136. Chem cho| Link| Bookmark|
January 28, 2021 9:52:58 AM
IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
Those person who feel that stock will give listing gains have applied in this issue The issue has subcribed 15 .28 times at 11.50 am on last day 28/01/2021 even though nifty is down to 13833 which is below 14200 but change of getting allotment is less
136.1. crsl| Link| Bookmark|
January 28, 2021 10:16:42 AM
IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
1. It may be typo err 10.50am typed as 11.50am 2. ISSUE NOT SUBSCRIBED 15.28 IT IS RETAIL SUBSCRIPTION
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January 28, 2021 10:20:45 AM
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sorry yes retail investor ,
135. PearlRohit| Link| Bookmark|
January 28, 2021 9:56:19 AM
Top Contributor (200+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Any review for Brookfield REIT IPO and Brookfield REIT IPO Grey Market Premium ?
Guys another caution for the member arunarun who recommend Antony with huge pledge share is good and now stovecraft which has huge debt,dressed financial. Seems he is more of operator with liking of small.issues with dodgy financial He has told home finance as expensive which will reward shareholders. Time will tell who is correct now.
Sir pehle to name change krlo. Coz apko ipo ke analysis to krne aa nhi rhe. Secondly, this forum is made for information, doubts, and real facts not for aggression and rage. So calm yourself down and enjoy the ipo budget combination session
My analysis are 100 pc correct. Check my analysis before which is correct on IPo to avoid and apply Stovecraft has huge debt, they have many civil and tax matter cases ,.seems u r another name of arunarun. Lol. No words. Rinse kafi ache analysis hai that why have so many comments liking unlike u who no one knows. I only like SEPTA and check his analysis as well that''s why people follow their comments.
Withdraw anyone who by mistake applied . Stock to definitely list at huge discount now. It has 300 Cr debt, was loss making and cooked financial to come and collect money, many legal cases against them. Does not even deserve 100 rs price value for such issue.
131.1. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2021 2:06:30 PM
IPO Guru (1900+ Posts, 1600+ Likes)
You dont seem to know abc of analysis. High debt figure included CCDs which have already been converted. Post that loan of the company is just 114 crore and object of fresh issue of 95 crore is also to prepay the debt
Dekh Kiya .Achi Tarah pad lo. Loan in excess of 300+ crore. Short term and long term loan add Karo agar maths aati hai
131.5. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2021 3:28:42 PM
IPO Guru (1900+ Posts, 1600+ Likes)
Total borrowing is 1,295.47 million after CCD conversion in January 2021. Put your email then will send highlighted page It is not possible to post graphic image in this board
Seems u r new to stock market. Go to page 50 Add short term and long term borrowings and make total which is in excess to 300 crore. Send me ur email I will send you details
Check both short term borrowing and long term borrowings. Sirs short term borrowing is not the total debt. It includes both. Lagta hai u don''t even know xyz of analysis
131.8. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
January 27, 2021 5:02:15 PM
IPO Guru (1900+ Posts, 1600+ Likes)
You seem to reading different things. The addendum is latest issued in January 2021. It has only 29 pages. Which page number 50 you are talking off I am in IPO market since 1985
Please refer Pg 254 of RHP (Capitalization statement). Total borrowings pre-offer at Sept 30, 2020 were 314.3Cr indeed. However, the next 2 columns are adjusting for the compulsory convertible debentures (CCD) and giving the actual debt figure, which is 129.5Cr. CCD is not debt, it is rather quasi-equity put in by Sequoia Capital.
After issue proceeds and repayment, post-issue debt will be ~50Cr. Hope this is helpful as a reference to you both, and other board members.
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January 28, 2021 6:00:00 AM
IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Arunarun is same guy who said Antony is good issue. Now down more than 10 pc below issue. Look at his recommendation k. The past. All are wrong. He says company with bad management and history are good one like Antony with pledged shares and stove craft with bad financial and says opposite not to apply in good ones like home finance .
130. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
January 25, 2021 10:02:42 AM
IPO Guru (1900+ Posts, 1600+ Likes)
Wow, 1 time in 50 minutes for retail must be a record
Wah kya subscription hai.aajtak Nahi dikhi. Being such a smal issue QIB is not even 50 times whereas home finance got good subscription from QIB and HNI Lagta hai aapko yeh Nahi pata that QIB and HNI are the ones who decide outcome and not retailers.
Hurry. Cancel application immediately. Secondary market mein sale hai why go for expensive primary market stock. Stovecraft have multiple criminal and civil case, loss making previous yes, cooked financial ,even after IPO debt is huge.
It is because cancellation happen at around 3 pm which is not reflected here. Wait for final details which will come by allocation day. Anyway being 24 Cr for retailer even with 25 subscription total is 600 Cr. Even IRFC managed to get more than 3000 Cr from retailer. So nothing great to write home about with such subscription.
Antony got lucky on listing day as market uptrend continued. Now the fair value of Antony is reflected. Stovecraft is similar way with many negatives and retailer applied. However this will not be Lucky as Antony on listing day.