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SJVN Ltd (Satluj Jal Vidyut Nigam Ltd) IPO Message Board (Page 37)

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211. Anil |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 7:45:27 PM
saharanpuri i dont know from whom you bought at such high price.
let me tell you the premium from yamuna expressway have gone up from 1000 rs to 3500 rs now. i am getting calls from dealers everyday if would liek to sell but to remind you this is the best investment even if you buy it now.

the reason your investment is wrong is because there has not been much development on sector chi-pi but all development in areas of expressway like greater noida expreesway and yamuna expressway in future.

the current price of land for yamuna expreesway been offered after premium is 8000 rs and which will be going to 15000 rs before commonwaelth games when first phase of jp toll would go operational. its not that there is something wrong with the land its because you made wrong investment at higher price.

ask anyone who invested in noida,greater noida,yamuna expressway land they have very happy times.

i know that sjnl might get better subscription in retail side but you will kow all foreign investment going on jp infra after listing.
210. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 7:36:17 PM
ANIL,

i bought a plot of land 500 m in size for 20000 per meter in 2004 in chi phi sector of greater noida n now the rates being offered to me is 15-17000 rs per meter.

yamuna expressway its all speculation as there is large time available before completion is required.better sell n getout.
209. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 7:31:24 PM
“Many investors feel they have spotted the next blue chip in the making, but the if the gains are too good to be true, it is better to book profits,” says a BSE broker.

Because of the small issue size, most stocks rise sharply after listing. Very often, this is due to deliberate underpricing or the result of a group of operators cornering the floating stock and then ramping up the prices.
The spectacular gains attract a new set of investors at higher levels, and also induces some of the existing investors to hold on to their shares.

The trend in mid to large-sized issues (Rs 400 and above) has been similar, with 26 out of the 51 IPOs since 2005, trading between 40-90% below their record highs.

Suzlon Energy, Future Capital Holdings, Edelweiss Capital, DLF, Omaxe and Brigade Enterprises are among the names, quoting at a steep discount to their record highs as well as issue price.
208. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 7:29:14 PM
REMEMBER VISHAL RETAIL,XL TELECOM,PYRAMID SAIMIRA,OMAXE,PARSVNATH,DHANUS,UTTAM SUGAR IPOS
MUMBAI: Good things come in small packets, so goes the saying. But the adage will have to make an exception when it comes to the post-listing performance of quite a few small-sized (Rs 150 crore and less) initial public offerings in the past few months. This has led many retail investors to believe that smaller public issues offer a better chance of easy gains.

But many brokers advise restraint, as the probability of being saddled with dud shares is equally higher. According to data compiled by ET, 161 of the 220 small-sized public issues since 2005, are trading between 40-95% below their record highs seen during the peak of the bull run. This, despite the market more than doubling from its lows of March 2009.

Brokers say most of these stocks are unlikely to cross their peaks anytime soon. Investors who are still holding on to the shares or those who had bought the shares at higher levels would be better off booking their losses or profits, they say.

Pyramid Saimira, Vishal Retail, XL Telecom, Niraj Cement, Dhanus Technologies, Uttam Sugar Mills, Resurgere Mines, Greenearth Resources, are among the stocks quoting way below their record highs.

Interestingly, some of the stocks currently at a steep discount to their record highs, are quoting between 100-600% above their issue prices. Brokers say this is an indicator that the current market prices could be closer to the fair value of these shares.

Because of the small issue size, most stocks rise sharply after listing. Very often, this is due to deliberate underpricing or the result of a group of operators cornering the floating stock and then ramping up the prices.
207. Anil |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 7:16:00 PM
saharanpuri i dont know about your experinec but my experience with any land bought in noids,greater noida or yamuna expressway has been very good.

i just got yamuna expressway residential plot a few months back and added more on premium and now i am getting more than 75% premium to what price the land was allotted in yamuna expressway. all those who bought land near greater noida expressway have already got 5 times there value since investment 5 years back.

i doubt how your price is low.
206. shany |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 6:17:54 PM
samee u are correct.
205. samee |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 5:43:00 PM
For retail how much to apply at the maximum is it 3750 shares and 97500 amount plz confirm
204. shany |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 5:29:33 PM
Looks cheaper than present NHPC market price...Max 2-3 Rs gain on listing for retail investors...Apply for 1 lakh to get Max benefits.
203. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 5:12:54 PM
SOME GOOD PICKS FROM SECONDARY MARKET OF 2010 FOR 1-2 YEAR POINT OF VIEW

SKF
Blue Dart
Hyderabad Industries
ICI India
Tata Communications
TRF
202. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 4:33:30 PM
SUMEET. all tehse current ipos like jaypee inra are really bad. there is so much land supply coming up in greater noida n noida region that the price are bound to be stagnant for along time. i hvae a plot in greatr noida which i purchased in 2004 the current prices are still below that price.

jaypee infra is another reliance power ipo .stay away from it.its along gestation project with huge risks in it.if mayawati looses next election n chances are almost sure shot jp group will be in bad situation.

ALL INVESTMENT MANAGERS N COMPANIES HAVE BECOME EXTREMELY GREEDY.

BETTER BUY GOOD STRONG COMPANIES AVAILABLE AT SINGLE DIGIT PE FROM SECONDARY MARKET LIKE MAZDA CONTROL,INDAG RUBBER,MAYUR UNIQUOTERS,SPICE MOBILES,DCB ,HYDERABAD INDUSTRIES RATHER THAN TAKING A CHANCE IN THESE RISKY IPOS.
201. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 4:18:42 PM
SREEDHAR

i agree with your point of view.APPlying in ipos is becoming a waste of time n money .WE RETAIL INVESTORS ARE am getting 1000-2000 rs return at most in almost all HEAVILY SUBSCRIBED ipos like ILFS TRANSPORTATION,DQ ENETRTAINMENT,PERSISTENT n huge LOSSES IN IPOS LIKE INTRASOFT ,SHREE GANESH JEWEELERY,GOENKA DIAMOND AFTER BLOCKING 1 LAC RS FOR NEARLY A MONTH.



on the oNtehr hand in secondary we get excellent n betetr returns like i purchassed spice mobile at 61 rs now its 78,dcb at 35 rs now its 45n so many others examples

SEE IN TARA HEALTH FOOD I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY CREDENTIALS N PROSPECTS OF COMPANY IT WAS ONLY GOD GRACE THAT THE ISSUE BOMBED OTEHRWISE LIKE GANESH JEWELLERY THIS TOO WOULD HAVE CAUSED A LOSS OF WHO KNOW 30 -4000 RS PER APPLICATION.

THE TIME OF EXCELLENT RETURNS IN IPOS LIKE COX N KING ,JUBILANT FOOD IS OVER.NOW THE PROMOTERS ARE VERY GREEDY .


PADI LAKRI KO UTHAKAR ANDAR KYUN KARNA.

LETS TEACH THESE GREEDY INVESTMENT BANKERS N COMPANIES A LESSON.

I AM STAYING AWAY FROM ALL IPOS .

REGARDING SJVN I AM STILL HOLDING TO NHPC STILL LICKING MY WOUNDS.WHEN ONE HAS NHPC NO POINT GETTING SJVN AS WELL.
200. Sumeet |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 3:56:39 PM
@gem ipo finder ,

Hi Gem ,

please share your thoughts and advice on how should we go about SJVN and JP Infra..should we apply for full applications in both the IPOs or apply in smaller lots to reduce risk..
Since JP Infra is seen as risky..should we avoid or better to apply at lower end of price band in full application or in smaller lots..
I am very confused on both the IPOs SJVN and JP Infra..please advice whether to go full or in smaller lots and that too on which price..lower end or upper end of price band..?

Waiting for your reply sir..please advice
Other members of the board like Shreedhar , Ravi ,Saharanpuri , Sadiq , Neha are also welcome to share your thoughts on this..
waiting for reply..
199. Rajesh |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 3:50:25 PM
This issue is not good better we should avoid. Why we should take risk. Govt. is not leaving any thing for investor.
198. bj |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 3:22:27 PM
197 sreedhar,
Thumbs up for sjvnl...thumbs down for jp infra, jp infra is only trying to loot us, we shud agressively speak against this issue !!!!
197. akka |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 2:40:33 PM
dear sreedhar,for satluj ,one can say it safe ipo ,one is bound to get something in this ipo...jaypee infa is totally risky.....happy ipoing
196. Eljay |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 12:31:19 PM
I am in sink with the views expressed by Mr Shreedhar, Its making a lot of sense to pitch for this issue. fundamentals of the company has been strong and the company has grown organically. The inorganic growth with which it can grow post issue is also tremendous. The company gives /reflects a good top line as well as a health bottom line.. .Cheers from me !! I am game for it
195. sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 10:41:38 AM
Dear Sahranpuri,GEM,Natarajan,BJ,Ravi,Prince,Akka,Neha,Sadiq & Friends,
So what is the final decision made by each of you for SJVNL & JP Infra.Kindly share your Ideas.
194. sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 10:37:54 AM
Natarajan,
Nice to see your post after so many days.Apply for SJVNL as max loss will be very less even if it lists at discount which may be only if Market tanks.Regarding JP Infra we can take a decision around 130 to 200 pm.
193. HARD DICK |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 9:54:24 AM
jaypee group is very good.invest in it for handsome returns.dont make mistake of investing in S J V N L.
192. Agnello Kuto |   Link |  Bookmark | May 1, 2010 9:50:30 AM
SJVNL STINKS.GOVT IS CHOR.LOOK AT NHPC.I WILL NOT INVEST IN SJVNL.INVEST IN JAYPEE GROUP.YOU WILL THANK ME FOR THIS ADVICE.