Well well ...it seems..everyone hv picked up something in mkt..
IMO This 2 upmove in mkt is good and needed(considering expiry) but not much sustainable... U will find again and again ur share''s buying value ...I.e range bound movement expected.so do not excite much ..!!!!
One can look at South ind bank in dips for good returns...!!
No doubt company is good, consistent performer, 40 years old reputed foam based products supplier but the price band is unbelievably high...I mean 680 - 730 is too much for a 5 rupee face value share....I was expecting that this IPO will give good return to small investors but seeing the price band, I am feeling other way. We have to study the reason behind the logic of lead bankers to set such high price...Wait and see two days subscription status...response of QIBs and HNIs, then take a call to subscribe an IPO...
The ipo is an avoid imo. The pricing is very high 32x trailing and 30x 1 year fwd pe.
Mattress is not an aspirational product, also it is bulky and freight charges are high.
Currently raw material prices are at rock bottom as a result the margins have gone from 5.5% in 2013 to 11% in 2016. These are not sustainable. ALso sales growth is going to be linear.
the drhp predicts 11-13% growth for organized mattress industry, Sheela being market leader cannot gwo very diffierent from the industry for a long time.
The australian business has no growth. That leaves us with furniture and industrial business, building in 12% cagr in these i get an eps of 23.2, 25.2 and 27.2 in fy17,18 and 19
You are spot on, 30plus ka pe bahut jada hai for a company jiska growth bahut moderate hai, aur bahut sara competition hai non branded retail manufactures se, organized matress share se jada unorganized ka market share bahut jada hai. Aise businesses mein net profit margins future mein kam hi hoti jayegi.
Eagle-eye - First u said the Price Band will be 377 - 418 & PE = 17.50 - 19.50.
Now after price band is declared you are saying the PE is
@680 >>> PE is 25.15 @730 >>> PE is 27.00
The actual PE is not less than anywhere between 30-33. Please do not post misleading information, not doing justice to the reputation I heard about you on the forum.
Below are your comments:
9. Eagleye Nov 19, 2016 12:12:48 AM IST | I Like It. 18 | Report Abuse Sheela Foam IPO
HOS: Price Band will be 377 - 418 avatar 9.1. Eagleye Nov 19, 2016 12:21:58 AM IST | I Like It. 8 | Report Abuse Thus,
PE = 17.50 - 19.50 avatar 9.2. Eagleye Nov 19, 2016 12:23:53 AM IST | I Like It. 3 | Report Abuse IPO is 100% OFS by promoters (there is no Private Equity investor)
Eagleeye - First u said the Price Band will be 377 - 418 & PE = 17.50 - 19.50.
Now after price band is declared you are saying the PE is
@680 >>> PE is 25.15 @730 >>> PE is 27.00
The actual PE is not less than anywhere between 30-33. Please do not post misleading information, not doing justice to the reputation I heard about you on the forum.
Below are your comments:
9. Eagleye Nov 19, 2016 12:12:48 AM IST | I Like It. 18 | Report Abuse Sheela Foam IPO
HOS: Price Band will be 377 - 418 avatar 9.1. Eagleye Nov 19, 2016 12:21:58 AM IST | I Like It. 8 | Report Abuse Thus,
PE = 17.50 - 19.50 avatar 9.2. Eagleye Nov 19, 2016 12:23:53 AM IST | I Like It. 3 | Report Abuse IPO is 100% OFS by promoters (there is no Private Equity investor)
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42. Septa| Link| Bookmark|
November 23, 2016 11:39:37 AM
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Few stock I have picked in this correction HCL INFOSYS RS SOFTWARE
both play on cashless economy
ARVIND MILL WELSPUN INDUSTRY
BOTH EXPORT AND TEXILE PLAY
ICICI BANK SBI BANK FEDERAL BANK WILL HAVE GOOD PLAY
Its cash balance is more then it market cap. It is only player in Indian market which have expertly in unique payment platform
The company before had only one client visa which restricted them having more clients the management came out of this contract with a goal to leader in Indian online payment ecosystem
If all come we''ll it will be very big wealth creator
You was the first to provide the price of issue almost accurate 680-700 band before it was officially announced, but your post said the company fundamental are good, why now you are making fun of the issue?
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November 23, 2016 11:44:32 AM
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Humor apart, I said the issue would have been good at price band less than 500 in my first post on Sleepwell. With price above 730 very minimum will be left for investors.
Kurlon has market share of 750Crores of overall 4000 crore branded mattresses business in india, where as Sleepwell is double ~1600 crores. So though not 50% but close to 40.
Waise bhi chk karo recent saste ipo bhi fail hogaye pnb housing and sme agro phosp. Hasi aati hai sleepwell ko opo laate hue is price par. Khair logon mein akal hogi toh boycott karenge par bahut saare bakre mil jaate hain. Retailers also applied in green pharma. Listing ke baad jab logon ka paisa aadga reh jayega tab sleepwell ka malik hasega
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November 23, 2016 10:43:13 AM
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LAGTA THA KI EK POPULAR BRANDVALI COMPANY KA ACHCHHA IPO HOGA PAR OFFER PRICE DEKH KE LAGTA HAI KI VAT LAG GAYI
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November 23, 2016 10:40:47 AM
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CLEAR AVOID KARO. ACTUAL OFFICER PRICE RS. 1460 (CALCULATE FACE VALUE RS. 10) ITNI HIGH PRICE JB STOCK MARKET DOWN HOTA HAI YA TO FIR COMPANY 1 HI QUARTER ME BAD RESULT DETA HAI TAB OFFER PRICE KE KAFI NICHE CHALA JATA HAI. SO TAKE CARE. AND AVOID IT.
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November 23, 2016 10:36:55 AM
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VERY VERY HIGH OFFICE PRICE. VERY COSTLY PRICE. FACE VALUE RS. 5 THAT MEANS ACTUAL PRICE RS. 1460.00 (IT VERY COSTLY) EN LOGO NE INVESTERS KO SAMAJ KYA RAKHA HAI.