Frankly, i don''t like the returns. They have declined for 4 straight years since FY 11-12 plus the margins are wafer thin at less than 2% and in FY 14-15 and 15-16 it was 0.25 and 0.62 respectively. I don''t like this business on financials. Rest up to the other greats of the forum to comment.
whether to apply? 1) since there is hardly any growth in revenue from last few years 2) PAT has declined as compared to FY 11-12.. 3) D:E ratio is high i guess 4) What is the future of the business and the sector?
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March 17, 2017 9:46:00 AM
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First of its unique idea to sell building products at large scale
Respected Septa Ji, I request your comments on the financials of SBP as i feel that you have not given your opinion on this in your earlier posts. 1. There is negligible growth in sales since 2012. 2. PAT was R''s.27.78 cr in 2012 and declined to R''s.4. 25 cr in 2015 and is R''s.10.98 cr in 2016. 3. DER is high. 4. Total capital and reserve is R''s.22.5 cr in 2016 against which NCA is R''s.9. 50 cr which appears to be very high.
On account of the above, whether the future performance of the company will be inconsistent. Please advise. Thanks.
Great i just love when people have genuine question in regards with investment big thumbs up 1.U R 100% right Real estate market is really bad phase from 2012 to 2016 sales have these lines to retail high margin business compare to channel line and B2B. So as i said before this company has seen the worst moving to organised renovation business will be great for bottom line and topline equally. That is reason i have only taken 13% CAGR when the real growth rate in NP is 26%
2. those r standalone PAT before the move to retail stores as explained before this 100 plus stores is have a great impact on the bottom line Check page 49 on RHP for the CORRECT CONSOLIDATED PROFIT
3. DEBT TO EQUITY RATIO IS ALWAYS HIGH IN SUCH KIND OF BUSINESS REASON BEING MOST OF THIS DEBT IS WORKING CAPITAL. Let me explain with an example for business like SBP. theses business have very high top line (Steel suppliers cement suppliers) and it normally for this business to have credit line of 21 days to 3 months depending on client cash sales in this kind of business is very less all in credit we know topline for 2016 is around 2100 crs BTW just little info on SBP it one of the 300 top private company with Topline in excess of 2000 Crs. Let get back to DER presently company total debt is around 250 Crs we also know topline is 2100 crs so average sales per day is approx 6 days so if give line of credit for 50 days i need 300 Cr as my OD balance however total debt is only 250 which majority is OD so nothing to worry business line this buy for cash and sell for credit so DER is not a good indicator
4. not sure how u got that figure on page 70 of RHP it says NAV is approx Rs157 multiple that with total outstanding shares which 2,28,50000 shares approx i get 350 cr approx asking 1050
So based on it business model i see big future for SBP So
I AM APPLYING FOR THIS ISSUE
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March 17, 2017 12:14:45 AM
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Thanks a lot Sir for your valuable comments on my queries and these are learning for me. 4th question is related to total of paid up capital + reserve & surplus vis-a-vis to Non Current Assets. The company has good amount of short term borrowings and at the same time they have given substantial amount of loans and advances as non current asset. What would be the reasons? Thanks a lot, Sir once again for your excellent guidance.
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March 17, 2017 1:05:20 AM
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Just a prior warning: THIS IS GOING TO BORING
Basically balance sheet is divided into non current area and current area both assets side and liability side will have current and non current area
So on liability side you will capital reserves and long term debt is non current area and on asset side non current is your fixed asset ur goodwill patent and also accumulated losses rest all in balance sheet on liability side and asset side is current area in liability side and asset side
Now to your question 4
why NON current area in liability side 22.5 Cr and NON current area in asset side is 9.5 Cr is that correct if that is question it just means is fixed asset low since it business does not need more fixed assets need more working capital in fact all such business will have the same asset build in its balance sheet bcoz it does not have a factory to manufacture it is trading business which is fixed asset lean