1 FD means one times Fixed deposit interest that we get in bank. and 2 FD means 2 times...and so on.
This is our friend Gamble''s simple way of explaining things in share market. He means to say that FD (fixed deposit interest from banks) is the "deciding scale" and it means 2 times FD (around 14%) is better. Usually, you get from banks of 7% FD interest, right...? and if a share gives you more than 14% returns, is it not better than an FD ? That''s what Gamble says.
Try to learn basic financial market avenues and instruments and numbers...even I was like you before coming to share market. Now I m better and long way is there still to go....!! Only after understanding basics, you will be able to play in the market with some informed risk taking. Otherwise, we have to deep depending on analysts calls and blame them...
Let''s all request Gamble...how to acquire knowledge...just few references online will do...may be some 10 points if he pens down...we can follow and try to study. We can''t expect him or request him to teach a whole course..but a little flow chart will do. I respect this trade religiously but lacking the know-how and how to know-how!!
Knowledge is power and it makes you great, however poor you are. Who knows????, this knowledge could transform whole of our country from poverty!!!!
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December 4, 2017 7:19:33 AM
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This IPO is coming when market is just below all time high and at 45 PE which is exorbitant considering its performance credentials. I struggled to get reasonable return from NH IPO even in long term. This happened when IPO came at relatively much lower market levels. Also consider the fact that NH had much better company reputation. There are several headwinds for markets in India in December like high Oil price,inflation, US interest increase, gujarat elections etc. Market is expected to consolidate or correct in next 1-2 weeks which will further restrict or eliminate all together, any listing gains which may have been otherwise possible due to higher subscription in this weak IPO. IMO, it is better and safer to be very selective in December and avoid (mis)adventours.
GMP kostak sab Mohmaya hai, HDFC ka kya gmp tha, Apex ka kya gmp tha? Gic ka kya subject tha?
Current gmp (taken from fraud source)
Shalby 17-20 rs (down from 60 gradually ) FSC 40-45 rs (down from 90 gradually )
Both not seeing much volume, just trades only, gmp player bhag rhe hai ipo se dhire dhire, agar aur 2-3 downside dekhno k mili market mai, to gmp 0 hona tay hai.
Gamble is now leading this group with his timely analysis, recently we deactivate many active expart for our nuisance, This is a open ipo group ,if any disagree ment didn''t go personal.
Yes, Gamble is the hero of Chittorgarh now a days.
He is also a good guy, tends to help every layman and those who are not experienced(or those who does not have much knowledge about share market).
More than accuracy, I respect this aspect of him!! The important thing is he should continue this active participation. Many people go away after some time like pinkyjain...or appear after long pauses....like Urchit sir. It is a form of service to the society that gamble is doing. If some body is earning money (not for wealth but for existence), his calls are very useful. I think there are many people like this in this forum..Rich people, can manage losses, but for the poor, Gamble is a lighthouse for lost ships. Only the hungry people know the value more than anybody. Sorry for the Robinhood type of talk, but one of us in this forum have to express our gratitude to Gamble , and I wanted to take that responsibility to express. this is how we can show him our gratitude. __^_^_^_^_
Request Wat s app or some e maill or some fase book so that we can follow you there also and be in touch...
All sentences are overwhelmed, i m not considering myself enough knowledgeable to play with others money right now, Will see if any change in Fut, BTW thanks for ur gratitude.
Most of us tend to believe that we understand the mkt completely after applying in few IPOs but friends, my last 20 years experience in stock market has taught me.....everyday is a new day in stock market and whoever stops learning will perish.
Gamble...its not overwhelmed words...but right words. Actually, most of us are quite some time playing in the market, but not gathered enough know how to predict at least like you...its due to full time jobs..not serious about getting educated..many such reasons. Now, I m getting interested in markets. At least help us where to start on market study and give us outline what is the method that you follow to study..
Just pen down few points/plan on how to study or a book or any other online material. Give us a flow chart on where to start and what to study. Its better to teach someone catch fish, rather than giving him cooked fish. Not asking to play with other''s money, but just guide how to study..
Cool shine also pls share your inputs how to study...
After last few iPos specially Hdfc I understand market completely that it is not driven by fundamental but sentiment and gambling. Nothing is for sure in this market but ipos are better investment than any other forms of equity investment. I think neither NIA that much worst nor APEX is that much good. I don''t understand which factors are affecting price of this script. So I recommend to follow the buzz.
Good information is always better than best analysis.
Vishmodi, i booked partial in Capacit''E today due to 4 FD and to realise some capital , still holding some hoping 500 INR with in 2018. Will buy in corrections(if any).
Agrovet 700-800 imo intact but now a days market arrived tricky situation, once share go up then only Big player enters, so wait for that day and That trend
Thanks sir for your valuable suggestion for me, this is first time where i got back response from Valuable expert like you, so today is best day for me
I should be your neighbor...or an office mate. I had the same view on capacit''e and held on to it. I was not an IPO allottee, but bought it, and it went to red Still I held it, it hit breakeven, then also I held it and added some. Now its in green and going good. Now also I m going to hold it. It will be a multibagger in the long run like 3-5 years..Also have you looked at sunteck realty? I think it is yet to make some turning point, so its better to hold.
Thanks gamble...do you have any other secondary market call to suggest?
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December 2, 2017 10:34:29 PM
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Gamble ji
I have a whats up group for secondary market for investors only. Some of my members mentioned about your knowledge & expertise.
I would request you to join my group "MARKET MASTERS". All disciplined & respectable members sharing true information for benefit of all.
Let me know if you are interested. Nine8six8four5eight2five8
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December 2, 2017 11:42:23 PM
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@gamble
Please share your opinion on adding more of them to portfolio.
Can anybody help with my contra call? I mean real contra !!
Shalby wishes that people get sick, they break their bones and come to us (Real bad intentions )
Completely contra : Gym and fitness firm Talwalkar wishes that everyone stay fit, stay happy,get some abs so that they can''t be sick (Real good intentions )
Also gamble sometime back posted good buy Talwalkars , today vol good after very long time, so i think i should initiate buy looking at awesomeness of business, more importantly good intentions business.
Hospitals are the matter of disgrace. They charge the hapless creatures whose bodies try to disown them and deprive them of their own existence. What PE? or ROE? can say about such entities who work for the humans in the most inhumane manner. Invest if you trust their intentions. They won''t let go of a chance to rob a human with the tactics to scare the hell out of their ill, remnant brains until the death decides to take over...
100% agree! Once you enter, the torture starts you will be ripped from all angels both money and body wise:-( They play with peoples emotions, situation and take lots of advantage...god save them.
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December 1, 2017 9:16:25 AM
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i pray to god, your son or daughter become doctor.
Comment by Anarchist is debatable and I agree with him. Fact is that the listed hospitals are more under pressure to earn regular and increasing income due to market exposure. This will naturally make them behave inhumanly in the pressure of ensuring increased earnings. All employees of such hospitals have stringent targets and to meet the targets they compromise their humanity, without any other option. In other sectors, if a company makes some fraud, loss may be recovered some how, but not in health industry. Here, profit is at the cost of tears and curse of many patients and their family. On ethical basis, I avoid going for shares of hospitals and pharma companies, irrespective of profitability.
Oh! Not every patient can afford profligate hospital stays unless they belong to a clan of medical tourists who have a lot more to reminisce upon returning than just the healing.
A detailed scrutiny and audit of the procedures and tests performed can reveal the truth enough to unmask the demonic instincts which must make the entire treatment business seem akin to Medical Scamming.
And what''s a Speciality Hospital by the way? ..There is nothing special about anything after a cerrtain lapse of time. In the 19th Century Europe, plague was called the Black Death..and there were specialists who helped the wealthy echelons with the ways to avoid coming under it''s attack by charging exorbitant fees. And there were specialists even to treat hot flushes..... specialities are mere opportunities presented to those who possess resources ahead of others and know to present them as skills that are peculiar only to them..
There are Govt hospitals for free treatment. You go Private if you have Insurance/ Money. Business Ethics is a long debate. This is an IPO forum, you want the company to create as much value as possible.
Yes! That was exactly my point...I wonder how much money would the promoters engaging in unethical businesses allow the investors to make.... I can''t imagine those who don''t know to care for life, to care about those who invested money to become partners in their crime ..
Pepsi mentions the ingredients on the cans and ITC gave a warning about a possible grave injury to the wmoker''s health.. Coke and ITC sell discretionary products unlike medical treatments which could be traumatic yet inevitable....There is a obvious difference there you see... ITC''s business would become unethical the moment they start loading their cigarettes with weed without telling...:D
I believe this hospital is a profit making institute and attending such hospital is always discretionary, else one can always attend government hospital which provide treatment by qualified doctors at almost negligible cost.
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December 2, 2017 1:57:31 AM
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Hospitals do mention the charges. No one is kidnapping patients and asking for ransom. You have reviews and feedback from friends and family as well.
Hey! That''s a great suggestion dude!....So in a situation of emergency..say for instance a family member has a heart attack, stroke or an accident that broke their bone(s)...it would be prudent to first follow the above checklist instead of admitting them to a nearest hospital...
Read the online reviews first, then call up a few friends for their first hand reviews..and finally have a close look at the hospital''s complete list of charges as one may not know the tests they would barrage the unsuspecting with...:whew!! ..))
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December 2, 2017 9:35:42 AM
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your argument is senseless, if anyone warns that i will kill you and kills you (You are healthy at this time) than he is ethical , on other hand someone who is trying to save you (When you are unhealthy) and due to some unexpected or expected complication pt die than he is unethical. salute to you
Fully agree with anarchist .. Recently max hospital demanded 50 lakh from a new born kid''s father and when unable to pay money hospital told him child is dead and return body of child in a parcel , after some time father found child is alive and moving , complain to police ,but haryana police as always nothing did any significant seems .in board meetings hospital only discuss, how to increase profit IMO i will avoid despite something
@ Khemka.. That''s so very true..and there is a lot of such instances.. enough to make one lose count..
I could have replied to A. K. Goyal but held myself back from doing so, owing to their little to no understating of the reality and the striking lack of common decency in the post.