304. Tinkerbell| Link| Bookmark|
December 23, 2019 8:41:32 AM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 1800+ Likes)
Brookfield Asset Management may amalgamate its commercial properties into a real estate investment trust (REIT) to move towards an initial public offering (IPO) to raise over $1 billion (more than Rs 7,000 crore in current rates), sources told Bloomberg.
303. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
December 22, 2019 6:19:08 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
SBI Cards IPO - *Breakeven / Justification of the current GMP*
Assuming:
1) The issue size to be of *Rs.8,500 Crs* And 2) A stupendous demand for leverage, will allow the NBFCs to make hay while the sun shines, and giving them the opportunity to charge a higher rate of interest of *11%pa for 7 days*
In that case:
A) The NII category size will be Rs.1,146Cr and the interest cost will be *Rs.200/-* ... only if NII category receives appllications worth approximately *Rs.1.80L Crs.*
Additionally,
B) The SBI Shareholder category size will be Rs.807Cr. and the interest cost will be *Rs.200/-* ... only if SBI Shareholder category receives appllications worth approximately *Rs.1.25L Crs.*
To my mind these numbers look insane, and hence the curremt GMP of Rs.200/- beats all sense of logic from this point of view.
However, the collective wisdom of the market is supreme. Hence, shall be interesting to watch how the Grey Market Premium moves over the next 6 weeks
GMP of 200+ not sustainable, 1.8 lac crore subscriptions is huge and that too only from NII. But for long term good stock having good growth in future and first mover advantage will be there only if pricing is good, remember ICICI life Insurance ipo
***200+gmp?*** I stopped thinking when it crossed 150 Though it sustained till date It reminds me a dialogue of james bond movie "IT WAS INTENDED TO WET OUR APPETITE"
303.5. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
December 23, 2019 1:13:07 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
@harit sir Aapne jo 5 accounts m sbi ka 1-1 share liya uska kya fayda AGar Proportionate basis h toh
303.7. Medge| Link| Bookmark|
December 23, 2019 7:29:11 AM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 2000+ Likes)
I am not expecting listing like ujjivan small finance bank, but listing like bandhan bank is surely possible. Many big players including FIIs will apply for long term view.
Many RIIs who don't understand business will resist themselves to apply with fullforce. In reality there are people who like to use CC????, at other side there are people who are still thinking credit card means problems ????
This is the one of the best business of SBI where they are doing best than other private players , only exception is HDFC ????,.
@Eagleeye, gmp is not only reflection of interest cost, but demand of the shares, businesses model, performance of company, future outlook. As everyone wants to have a piece of this gem, gmp is commanding high. But once ipo opens, gmp will stabilize at a lower rate considering the size of the issue.
बैंक ऑफ बड़ौदा की नेट बैंकिंग से मैक्सिमम आईपीओ की कितनी एप्लीकेशन लगा सकते हैं| और बैंक ऑफ बड़ौदा की नेट बैंकिंग के एक अकाउंट से अलग-अलग पैन नंबर की और अलग-अलग बैंक की अकाउंट की एप्लीकेशन लगाते हैं तो रिजेक्ट तो नहीं होगी। Eagle Eye please reply.
बैंक ऑफ बड़ौदा की नेट बैंकिंग से मैक्सिमम आईपीओ की कितनी एप्लीकेशन लगा सकते हैं| और बैंक ऑफ बड़ौदा की नेट बैंकिंग के एक अकाउंट से अलग-अलग पैन नंबर की और अलग-अलग बैंक की अकाउंट की एप्लीकेशन लगाते हैं तो रिजेक्ट तो नहीं होगी। Eagle Eye please reply.
298. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
December 22, 2019 6:40:43 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
SBI Cards IPO - * Beneficiaries of the IPO proceeds*
Fresh Issue is to Rs.500Crs. (Money to be received by SBI Cards and Payment Services)
And the Offer for Sale is of 130,526,798 Equity Shares
Out of which: A) SBI is selling 37,293,371 Equity Shares (Money to be received by SBI Bank) B) CA ROVER HOLDINGS is selling 93,233,427 Equity Shares (Money to be received by an entity ultimately controlled by the Carlyle group)
So it is definitely not an IPO by the Government of India. However, please note the *largest beneficiary of the proceeds of this IPO will be an American Private Equity Fund*.
Now give a moment to introspect, would a capitalist fund manager leave an *unreasonable* amount on the table for the IPO investors?
Sbi card is not a govt company. Its is 100% pvt company same like sbi life, sbi mf, sbi general insurance. Sbi holds majority stake in these subsidiary and as govt has majority stake in sbi so general public think it is govt company and also agents of these companies sell products saying govt company. Govt here is same as holder of mutual fund units having 30 plus companies but we units holder's are not owner of these companies. Hope concept is clear.
297. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
December 22, 2019 6:50:35 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
SBI Cards IPO - Issue Size / Price per Share
If Issue Size is Rs.8,500 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.618/- If Issue Size is Rs.9,000 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.650/- If Issue Size is Rs.9,500 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.685/- If Issue Size is Rs.10,000 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.722/- If Issue Size is Rs.10,500 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.758/-
297.1. sonal patel| Link| Bookmark|
December 22, 2019 8:31:51 PM
IPO Guru (1600+ Posts, 5800+ Likes)
I think price band between 618 to 650...
296. Aniketiaf| Link| Bookmark|
December 19, 2019 12:39:12 PM
IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
UTI AMC may file IPO papers this week, offer size could be Rs 3,800-4,800 crore.
UTI AMC has already filed DRHP last week. Can u pl. tell me the parent company of UTI AMC to buy the same, to apply under the SHAREHOLDER quota(if it is there)?
SBI , BOB , LIC , PNB are the owners , But I dont think they will reserve any shares for shareholders in UTI AMC. If it is a single company they would have done ,since its a consortium I dont think so , but let see whats there in DRHP.
Res aniketiaf sir By reading your post and conversation I also brought 60 polycab @1100 Thank u sir Pl suggest target if any.. I do not know u but thanks again Varu
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January 17, 2020 10:19:50 AM
IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
@vaaru, the call was 1 month old, why did you take position when its already up?
Respected Roxpatel, u are right , but still I think it will go up. If u have any target & time period pl say me. Generally I take for medium to long term. Thank for your reply.
@Roxpatel,@veeru and others Polycab is a good stock But the problem is it had up move from 650 to 1100 in couple of months (so fast!?!!) Why? Fundamentals were good @550 also but sentiments of market particularly mid-cap,small cap not supported and now situation changed completely. Look at some stocks in last 2-3 months?!? Amber 850 to 1350 Dixon 2700 to 4250 Polycab 650 to 1100 Info edge,india mart,affle ... Long list
That is the magic of market
One thing to keep in mind When stock crossed up or down 80-100%, business ,income ,p/e Should double or half
But it's not the case!! Strange? Mid,small cap beaten down in 18-19 , now it seems like reverse position
My point is entry level(agree with roxpatel) Choose the stock which you believe to make profit.see fundamentals ,p/e, other external factors like budget,RBI policy and choose right levels to enter.
Also I find often that before results stocks rise in anticipation and after results it comes down although good results.. It happened many times
These are my observations Apply ur mind before investment
Respected harit sir Wow very good Thanks for good comments
296.21. Aniketiaf| Link| Bookmark|
January 23, 2020 10:17:06 AM
IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
DOWNEY, I am holding 1000 ujjivan small bank from ipo allotted shares. Fully confident of good profit to medium to long term. Can be added more near 50. Thanks.
techuser,
Not tracking Total transport. Can't comment. Thanks.
296.22. techuser| Link| Bookmark|
January 23, 2020 11:02:12 AM
IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Thanks @Aniketiaf ji, for your reply, I'm also holding 1 lot of ujjvan since IPO, really good results q4, let's hope for 80-85 range within a year.
Yes, you can apply, since the RHP of Equitas Bank IPO has not yet been filed. Only the DRHP has been filed, as of now.
293. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
December 13, 2019 5:18:56 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
SBI Cards IPO - *Market's Current Estimates of oversubscription*:
RII = 30.00L Forms = 1.66X Applic. wise (Avg allotment of ~14.43 shares per lot) NII = 225K Crs. = ~196.22X
Interest cost @10.00%p.a. for 7days = 118.52paise for 1X
Thus, for NII the costing = 196.22 X 118.52paise = Rs.232.56 per share (= GMP)
And, for RII the costing = 14.43 X 232.56 = Rs. ~3356/- (= Kostak)
*Note:* I am still trying to figure out how to calculate the OverSubcription of Shareholders Quota (it is too complicated for me - If you can help - I shall be grateful indeed)
If we follow standard operating procedure,15L sh (till 30 sep) And 5L odd lots available in this category,i assume if 10L apply Then 2x application vise Now 1 full lot given as lottery basis so every second applicants should have 1 successful allotment, Proportionate allotments out of equation Thus not wise to apply more than 1 lot in sh quota application (max 2-3 ) I don't think in any situation That 1 person will get multiple lot in 12-13 lots application any other will kept empty hand So in oversubscribed situation There will be minimum lot and too with lottery
This is my view,others are invited to join the discussion Thanks
आज की परिस्थितियों मे सम्भव है क्योंकि लगभग 16 लाख शेयर होल्डर (30 सित.2019) और लगभग 5 लाख बढ जाएगें।यदि 60% भी भरे तो 12लाख से अधिक शेयर होल्डर की एप्लीकेशन हो सकती है। इस हिसाब से यदि शेयर होल्डर को अनुपातिक आधार पर शेयर मिले, तो सबको नही मिलेगें। अतः वह सब भी RII मे अप्लाई करेगें ।
madam, going through the allotment process of HDFC AMC and USFB shareholder quota, one lot was allotedto each shareholder and thereafter on proportionate basis for every extra lot application. in the latest USFB SH quota. it was 400 for every one and then after 17 shares per extra lot
Madam,as per my rough calculation based on usfb sh quota wherein out of total 77lac public shareholders 44lacs applied.in sbi out of 15 lac public shareholders about8.5lacmay apply.thus app.wise about 20 cr.shares demand may be there if each sh applies for minimum lot of 24 shares.
kcm@ श्री मान जी, उजिवन मे 77लाख शेयर होल्डर नही हो सकते ,क्योंकि sep 19 मे मात्र 77हजार शेयर होल्डर थे । दुसरी बात स्टैट बैंक मे sep 19 मे 15 लाख थे ,अब कम से कम 5लाख और बढ़ जाएंगे। और स्टैट बैंक मे शेयर होल्डर के लिए लगभग 1.30 करोड शेयर हैं। आधी अधूरी व्याख्या न करें ।
As per my Previous mail SBI IPO does not open or before 23th Dec-19. This IPO will be open or 28th Dec-19 so GPM contentiously decreased. if any want to take the advantage of shareholder category, also time left for purchase SBI shares
I am retired employee of SBI AM I ELIGIBLE TO APPLY UNDER EMPLOYEE QUOTA. I HAVE SOME SHARES OF SBI IN PHYSICAL FORM AM I ELIGIBLE UNDER SHARE HOLDER QUOTA.
I think no as you are not present employee, but read RHP. And for your second question you are not eligible under shareholders category as you have to have shares in your demat. Suggestion :- Buy 1 share on Monday and contact Local SBI Caps office and submit your physical shares to converted in demat form. If everything is ok than it will take around 1 month to get credit and do it on urgent basis or your physical shares will be just paper after few months