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304. Tinkerbell |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2019 7:41:32 AM (800+ Posts, 1800+ Likes)
Brookfield Asset Management may amalgamate its commercial properties into a real estate investment trust (REIT) to move towards an initial public offering (IPO) to raise over $1 billion (more than Rs 7,000 crore in current rates), sources told Bloomberg.
303. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 5:19:08 PM
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SBI Cards IPO - *Breakeven / Justification of the current GMP*

Assuming:

1)      The issue size to be of *Rs.8,500 Crs*
And
2)      A stupendous demand for leverage, will allow the NBFCs to make hay while the sun shines, and giving them the opportunity to charge a higher rate of interest of *11%pa for 7 days*


In that case:

A)      The NII category size will be Rs.1,146Cr and the interest cost will be *Rs.200/-* ... only if NII category receives appllications worth approximately *Rs.1.80L Crs.*

Additionally,

B)      The SBI Shareholder category size will be Rs.807Cr. and the interest cost will be *Rs.200/-* ... only if SBI Shareholder category receives appllications worth approximately *Rs.1.25L Crs.*


To my mind these numbers look insane, and hence the curremt GMP of Rs.200/- beats all sense of logic from this point of view.

However, the collective wisdom of the market is supreme. Hence, shall be interesting to watch how the Grey Market Premium moves over the next 6 weeks
303.8. BNA |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2019 6:32:07 AM
Dear Eagle eye, If I have purchased 1share of sbi bank on date : 18-12-2019, then will I be eligible for shareholders category in sbi card IPO ??
303.9. amit K singh |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2019 6:56:13 AM
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@Eagleeye, gmp is not only reflection of interest cost, but demand of the shares, businesses model, performance of company, future outlook. As everyone wants to have a piece of this gem, gmp is commanding high. But once ipo opens, gmp will stabilize at a lower rate considering the size of the issue.
302. Pardip |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2019 6:07:14 AM
Shareholder quota mein bhi allotment vaise hi hogi jaise NII m hoti h
Proportionate basis
301. ZOOMBA |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2019 5:08:43 AM
@eagleeye, Can we apply RII + share holding category from same demat/ account.It is considered as valid application in both category.
301.1. Paymzia |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2019 5:39:44 AM
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Yes you can
300. chetan chouhan |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 10:53:24 PM
बैंक ऑफ बड़ौदा की नेट बैंकिंग से मैक्सिमम आईपीओ की कितनी एप्लीकेशन लगा सकते हैं| और
बैंक ऑफ बड़ौदा की नेट बैंकिंग के एक अकाउंट से अलग-अलग पैन नंबर की और अलग-अलग बैंक की अकाउंट की एप्लीकेशन लगाते हैं तो रिजेक्ट तो नहीं होगी। Eagle Eye please reply.
299. chetan chouhan |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 10:52:58 PM
बैंक ऑफ बड़ौदा की नेट बैंकिंग से मैक्सिमम आईपीओ की कितनी एप्लीकेशन लगा सकते हैं| और
बैंक ऑफ बड़ौदा की नेट बैंकिंग के एक अकाउंट से अलग-अलग पैन नंबर की और अलग-अलग बैंक की अकाउंट की एप्लीकेशन लगाते हैं तो रिजेक्ट तो नहीं होगी। Eagle Eye please reply.
298. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 5:40:43 PM
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SBI Cards IPO - * Beneficiaries of the IPO proceeds*


Fresh Issue is to Rs.500Crs. (Money to be received by SBI Cards and Payment Services)

And the Offer for Sale is of 130,526,798 Equity Shares

Out of which:
A)      SBI is selling 37,293,371 Equity Shares (Money to be received by SBI Bank)
B)      CA ROVER HOLDINGS is selling 93,233,427 Equity Shares (Money to be received by an entity ultimately controlled by the Carlyle group)

So it is definitely not an IPO by the Government of India. However, please note the *largest beneficiary of the proceeds of this IPO will be an American Private Equity Fund*.

Now give a moment to introspect, would a capitalist fund manager leave an *unreasonable* amount on the table for the IPO investors?
298.1. papon |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 9:07:52 PM
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Sbi card is not a govt company. Its is 100% pvt company same like sbi life, sbi mf, sbi general insurance. Sbi holds majority stake in these subsidiary and as govt has majority stake in sbi so general public think it is govt company and also agents of these companies sell products saying govt company. Govt here is same as holder of mutual fund units having 30 plus companies but we units holder's are not owner of these companies. Hope concept is clear.
297. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 5:50:35 PM
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SBI Cards IPO - Issue Size / Price per Share

If Issue Size is Rs.8,500 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.618/-
If Issue Size is Rs.9,000 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.650/-
If Issue Size is Rs.9,500 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.685/-
If Issue Size is Rs.10,000 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.722/-
If Issue Size is Rs.10,500 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.758/-
297.1. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 7:31:51 PM
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I think price band between 618 to 650...
296. Aniketiaf |   Link |  Bookmark | December 19, 2019 11:39:12 AM
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UTI AMC may file IPO papers this week, offer size could be Rs 3,800-4,800 crore.
296.22. techuser |   Link |  Bookmark | January 23, 2020 10:02:12 AM
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Thanks @Aniketiaf ji, for your reply, I'm also holding 1 lot of ujjvan since IPO, really good results q4, let's hope for 80-85 range within a year.
296.23. keyur r |   Link |  Bookmark | January 23, 2020 2:32:44 PM
Hi Team members,

Any good stocks to enter for medium/ long term.

I was also looking to Gujarat Gas at current levels ( CMP: 291), will it be good?
295. RadhakrishnA |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 1:34:11 PM
Is it true that to eligible for share holder quota ,must have sbi share on date of DRHP. because it was the case in HDFC AMC
295.1. bcskal |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 1:53:49 PM
Pl. refer to the above reply at 297.2. Same logic is applicable here also.
294. praveenvishisht |   Link |  Bookmark | December 19, 2019 10:22:17 PM
For Equitas Ipo, cut off date of shareholder category is the date of red herring prospectus according to page no 370 of DRHP
294.1. AKGUPTA |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 1:39:34 PM
I have purchased equitas holding on 12th December , can I apply for share holder category or not, please reply
294.2. bcskal |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 1:51:18 PM
Yes, you can apply, since the RHP of Equitas Bank IPO has not yet been filed. Only the DRHP has been filed, as of now.
293. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 13, 2019 4:18:56 PM
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SBI Cards IPO - *Market's Current Estimates of oversubscription*:

RII = 30.00L Forms = 1.66X Applic. wise (Avg allotment of ~14.43 shares per lot)
NII = 225K Crs. = ~196.22X

Interest cost @10.00%p.a. for 7days = 118.52paise for 1X

Thus, for NII the costing = 196.22 X 118.52paise = Rs.232.56 per share (= GMP)

And, for RII the costing = 14.43 X 232.56 = Rs. ~3356/- (= Kostak)

*Note:*
I am still trying to figure out how to calculate the OverSubcription of Shareholders Quota (it is too complicated for me - If you can help - I shall be grateful indeed)

SBI Cards IPO - *GMP Estimated*
GMP 235 +/- 1
Kostak 3400/-
293.12. kcm |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 9:50:18 AM
The minimum demand may be 2.0cr.¬ 20cr.shares .
293.13. MITTAL |   Link |  Bookmark | December 22, 2019 11:04:42 AM
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kcm@ श्री मान जी, उजिवन मे 77लाख शेयर होल्डर नही हो सकते ,क्योंकि sep 19 मे मात्र 77हजार शेयर होल्डर थे । दुसरी बात स्टैट बैंक मे sep 19 मे 15 लाख थे ,अब कम से कम 5लाख और बढ़ जाएंगे। और स्टैट बैंक मे शेयर होल्डर के लिए लगभग 1.30 करोड शेयर हैं।
आधी अधूरी व्याख्या न करें ।
292. zia |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 11:56:51 PM
koi batao yaar allotment shareholdingquota mei kaise hoti bai jo jyada lot apply karega ussepehle milega ya one lot to everyone
291. JHUNJHUNWALA SAKET |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 12:56:52 PM
Uti Amc price band 842-845
Raises 3200 cr
Grey Mrkt 56-60
291.1. Default Investor |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 7:55:49 PM
IPO price should be near 1000

Shares are in Demand in off market @900+
290. ashishbs |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 2:43:53 PM
team chittorgarh
can I apply for ipo in my individual and huf demat account from my two different individual bank account of individual?
289. BHARATS |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 10:52:13 AM
As per my Previous mail SBI IPO does not open or before 23th Dec-19. This IPO will be open or 28th Dec-19 so GPM contentiously decreased. if any want to take the advantage of shareholder category, also time left for purchase SBI shares
289.6. BHARATS |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 2:23:37 PM
Please check the SEBI website
289.7. Roxpatel |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 2:33:17 PM
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Zagda mat karo, shanti se dekh ke batao kya true hai
288. G.kumar |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 2:29:38 PM
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Any update on SBI Shareholder Category CuttOff Date ?
287. Sivakuna |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 1:15:04 PM
Will SBI cardholders can apply shares in the shareholding category?
286. PRITAM SINGH SINGH |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 10:48:13 AM
I am retired employee of SBI AM I ELIGIBLE TO APPLY UNDER EMPLOYEE QUOTA.
I HAVE SOME SHARES OF SBI IN PHYSICAL FORM AM I ELIGIBLE UNDER SHARE HOLDER QUOTA.
286.1. papon |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 11:18:34 AM
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I think no as you are not present employee, but read RHP. And for your second question you are not eligible under shareholders category as you have to have shares in your demat. Suggestion :- Buy 1 share on Monday and contact Local SBI Caps office and submit your physical shares to converted in demat form. If everything is ok than it will take around 1 month to get credit and do it on urgent basis or your physical shares will be just paper after few months
285. amit K singh |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2019 9:08:17 AM
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Next upcoming ipo?