I have SBI demat account on my name, So can I apply for shares in retail category using my friend PAN as 2nd application using with my demat account number?. Is it that everyone person should have their own demat account in sbismart to apply?
Linking pan with aadhar is compulsory before 31st December. Can any one confirm that it is also compulsory for minor pan card. Without linking pan will be invalid.the impact of above may be on minor having dematA/c.. So expert are requested to clarify in this regard Thanks
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December 30, 2019 11:49:00 AM
IPO Guru (2400+ Posts, 5300+ Likes)
Now every one eyes only on SBI Cards IPO. After getting Approval for SBI Cards IPO while submitting RHP Hope for Share Holders Quota Upper Limit Cap should keep maximum 2 Lakhs then Retails who Holding SBI Shares in Demat account will be benefited.
Prince pipe -2 Sbi 248 Prince pipe le lo agar lower rate mai mile to Definitely game hogi Next day market will open 100 point niftu upper so As you like and prefer,......
SBI CARD ke ipo me shareholders category me min. 1 lot allotment k liye kitne lot ki application karni padegi? HDFC AMC & UJJIVAN SFB k jaise isme bhi kya 1 lot apply karne se allotment milega kya? proportionate allotment kaise hota hai ?
Different from City to City (All are playing with fire,I witnessed everyone including Subjeewala to MBA holders all talking only one thing WHAT'S GMP IN SBI card?)
Approximately 250 applications change hands in my group circle last week
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December 28, 2019 10:32:47 AM
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@harit ji, is IPO me jo buzz usse muje, Reliance Power yad aa raha he, sab logo ne apni savings laga di thi usme aur result hamare samne tha. I hope SBI me esa kuch nahi hoga.
So true, it's difficult to sustain the GMP that's being traded in the market for almost a month. And looking at the current buzz, I am wondering if SBI will keep hardly anything for retail investors and that may effectively down the GMP to merely 60-70 Rs. In fact, I would be more than happy if investors even get 100/-Rs listing gain per share.
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December 28, 2019 2:29:59 PM
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Dear Harit sir, This ipo me kya krna chahiye, applications kostak me sell kar deni chahiye ya apne pas hi rakhni chahiye? Share ur views plz..
There will be definitely a limit of Rs. 2 lakhs for availing Shareholders' quota. If it exceeds this limit, the application would be rejected. However, apart from it, one can apply in the 'Retail Category' as well simultaneously. If nothing applies on respective basis and even if one applies above Rs. 2 lakhs apart from SH Category, the application will get rejected.
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December 23, 2019 11:02:29 AM
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SBI Cards IPO - Issue Size / Price per Share
If Issue Size is Rs.8,500 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.618/- If Issue Size is Rs.9,000 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.650/- If Issue Size is Rs.9,500 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.685/- If Issue Size is Rs.10,000 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.725/- If Issue Size is Rs.10,400 Crs ... Then, Share Price is Rs.750/-
SBI Cards IPO - *Market's Current Estimates of oversubscription*:
RII = 30.00L Forms = 1.66X Applic. wise (Avg allotment of ~14.43 shares per lot) NII = 175K Crs. = ~152.61X SH = 125K Crs. = ~154.96X
Interest cost *@11.00%p.a.* for 7days = 130.37paise for 1X
Thus, for NII the costing = 152.61 X 130.37paise = Rs.198.96 per share (= GMP)
And, for RII the costing = 14.43 X 198.96 = Rs. ~2871/- (= Kostak)
Thus, for SH the costing = 155.96 X 130.37paise = Rs.202.03 per share (= GMP)
SBI Cards IPO - *Breakeven / Justification of the current GMP*
Assuming:
1) The issue size to be of *Rs.8,500 Crs* And 2) A stupendous demand for leverage, will allow the NBFCs to make hay while the sun shines, and giving them the opportunity to charge a higher rate of interest of *11%pa for 7 days*
In that case:
A) The NII category size will be Rs.1,146Cr and the interest cost will be *Rs.200/-* ... only if NII category receives appllications worth approximately *Rs.1.80L Crs.*
Additionally,
B) The SBI Shareholder category size will be Rs.807Cr. and the interest cost will be *Rs.200/-* ... only if SBI Shareholder category receives appllications worth approximately *Rs.1.25L Crs.*
To my mind these numbers look insane, and hence the current GMP of Rs.200/- beats all sense of logic from this point of view.
However, the collective wisdom of the market is supreme. Hence, shall be interesting to watch how the Grey Market Premium moves over the next 6 weeks
SBI Cards IPO - * Beneficiaries of the IPO proceeds*
Fresh Issue is to Rs.500Crs. (Money to be received by SBI Cards and Payment Services)
And the Offer for Sale is of 130,526,798 Equity Shares
Out of which: A) SBI is selling 37,293,371 Equity Shares (Money to be received by SBI Bank) B) CA ROVER HOLDINGS is selling 93,233,427 Equity Shares (Money to be received by an entity ultimately controlled by the Carlyle group)
So it is definitely not an IPO by the Government of India. However, please note the *largest beneficiary of the proceeds of this IPO will be an American Private Equity Fund*.
Now give a moment to introspect, would a capitalist fund manager leave an *unreasonable* amount on the table for the IPO investors?
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Present public shareholders in SBI are about 15L.Assuming 2L more additions total retail may be 17L.based on SH subscription of 60% or so in recent issues approx.about 10L applications if each one applies minimum lot Rs 15K then total comes about 1.5K cr.which seems reasonable fig.in SH cat.i,e subscription of about 2 times.
As always, your analysis is very thorough and useful.
But IMO SH quota at 154.96X is a very high value.
SH quota is defined as under Rs 2 lacs by SEBI itself (applicable for all IPOs and SBI DRHP being silent on the upper limit under SH category does not supercede this dictum) hence HNIs can't adapt this route by buying 1 share.
I want one clarification please... Any expert please reply... Here subscription in shareholders category is estimated to 155 times mostly same as NII but according to article posted on this website about Shareholders quota it is said that application under reserved category of shareholders & employee can not be exceeding Rs. 200000/-. If that is true then, Is it possible to get such High subscription in Shareholders category if there is maximum application amount limit set? Even though the allotment in shareholders category will be on proportionate basis I don't think it will highly subscribe as much as NII. I am not expert here so please clarify if my above logic could be correct. Thanks in advance
If you r not applying in retail quota,then 2 L limit not applicable to you. So basically rules are same for SH & NII if SH allocation is on proportionate basis. For clearifications kindly wait for RHP
I agree with Eagleye mam on the shareholder quota estimates. If past trend is an indicator the Shareholder quota will be hugely oversubscribed, cant estimate the quantum though. Since the allotment will be on a proportionate basis and no ceiling on the bid amount lot of HNI applications will enter the SH quota.
My guess One who applies for 1/2/3 lots will barely have any chance of getting an allotment. It will be a difficult lottery at the lower end. Folks applying 13 lots plus may stand some outside chance.
Most of the shares in this quota will be cornered by the HNI investors.