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53. YBPK |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2023 10:39:55 AM
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Company owning and operating hotels as franchisee. It operates under brands Marriott, Holiday Inn Express, Four Points by Sheraton etc.
OFS by 3 shareholders whose acquisition cost is 127,208 & 127. Some of the investors have invested from 2011 onwards. Considering interest cost, they are exiting at loss. Investors need to do their own calculation.
Out of fresh issue, around Rs 900 cr will be used to repay debt. Some of the debt carries interest rate of 35.72% (Mercer Investment Singapore), 26.26% (GTI Capital Epsilon) and 35.72% (IFC). Wonder what made company borrow at such high rates
On average debt of Rs 2700 cr (CY+PY/2) company paid interest of Rs 522 cr which works out whopping 19%. Is there any guarantee company management will not end up repeating this again ?
At time when all hotel companies are posting bumper profits, this company is making a loss, mainly because of borrowings and depreciation.
Total interest paid by the company is last 3 years is Rs 1170 cr approx. whether the interest was paid on debt taken from PE shareholders is not known.
Cash flow from operations before tax is positive for all 3 years however cash flow from financing is horrible.
Occupancy rate across its hotels is decent @ 73% across its 25 hotels. Most of the hotels are in high traffic cities like Bangalore, Pune, Hyderabad, Chennai.
After acquisition of ACIC in aug-23, company will have 31 hotels in its portfolio.
For a people centric business, attrition rate for 21-22 was 87% while for 22-23 it was 91%, horrible numbers. It also shows how employees think about the company, how they perceive their future in the company.
YoY other expenses have jumped from Rs 188 cr to Rs 320 cr in line with revenue which has doubled from Rs 315 cr to Rs 730 cr. Big jumps in consumption of stores & supplies, management fees & incentives, repair & maintenance, advertisement & business promotion, travelling & conveyance, commission expenses.
Gross receivables of the company are Rs 57.8 cr against which it has made bad debt provision of Rs 6.6 cr. Usually guests either pay in advance of settle in full on check out. Credit is given only to blue chip corporates. So do not understand why bad debt provision has to be made.
Good anchor book, believe Singapore government and SBI funds will end up owning 5% stake each in post IPO shareholding.
Chalet hotels with 2800 keys has EV of Rs 14000 cr, which is Rs 5 cr / key. SAMHI with 3839 keys and post IPO EV of Rs 3700 cr (factoring Rs 900 cr loan prepayment and with numbers as on 31-Mar-23) will be Rs 0.96 cr/key.
53.1. RoK |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2023 8:28:46 PM (200+ Posts)
"Company owning and operating hotels as franchisee. It operates under brands Marriott, Holiday Inn Express, Four Points by Sheraton"

What I heard from their CEO's interview is that they own the hotels but operations are done by these brands that you have mentioned.
53.2. YBPK |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2023 11:39:19 AM
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@ RoK
My understanding is that the company has tied up with Marriot, Hyatt, IHG for using their various brands. They pay a brand royalty and/or certain % of sales as fees. In turn they get the brand, access to reservation system, participate in promotions, operational good practices etc.
Another view, highly unlikely that a MNC hospitality company would have 87% / 91% attrition rate.
52. ramsita |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2023 5:24:37 PM (300+ Posts)
GMP कितना है
51. Saaiok |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2023 5:13:31 PM
200 prct withdrawal, another adaani
50. Jetha Lal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2023 10:06:53 AM
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Since June 2021 i haven't seen any IPO in which 50% dilution of equity happened which is happening in this IPO. You can imagine how much they are desperate for the funds to survive.
50.1. Iamfoolish |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2023 10:33:37 AM
They have good hotel and hospitality sector bound to grow but main issue is debt. If somehow they can repay there debt then there profit will increase. That is why they diluting the equity. This stock is not at all suitable for retail investor. Because here high risk low reward.
49. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 10:06:23 AM
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In next few weeks many more DRHP's to be filed especially by some specific sectors like
Diagnostics , Healthcare , Auto ancillary ,
Real estate

Be Ready

And 3-4 more IPO's to be announced soon

Also Size can be good for allotment purpose
49.1. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 9:32:59 PM
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NEW DRHP FILING

ENTERO HEALTHCARE SERVICES Ltd.

Issue size :
Fresh - 1000cr ( can consider 200cr Pre-IPO)
OFS - 8557597

Retail : 10 %
Loss Making Company

FV : Rs.1/-

LM :
1.ICICI SECURITIES
2.DAM CAPITAL ADVISORY
3.JEFFERIES
4.SBI CAPS
5.JM FINANCIAL

Registrar : Linkintime

FY 23 Financials : Revenue - 3298 cr
PAT - ( 11.1 cr ) - Loss
49.2. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 9:47:52 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (3400+ Posts, 6500+ Likes)
Some Correction

FY 23 :
Revenue - 3309.4 cr
Loss - 11.1 cr
48. Jetha Lal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 3:07:41 PM
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✓Asset heavy business model.
✓ No promoter, Professionally managed company and professionals can never take risk beyond a limit because their key focus is to save their jobs rather than make wealth for shareholders.
✓Cyclical business.
✓Pentup demand of COVID lockdown is over in FY23 and now business will run and grow in line with normal tourism sector growth.
✓Company is in loss.
✓EBITDA margin of 34% vis-a-vis of peers like Chalet & Lemon tree are 40% & 51% respectively.
✓Even in listed hospitality sector better options are available.
✓Massive 50% stake dilution.
✓44% stake dilution to raise fresh issue to repay just 1/3rd of existing gross debt and post repayment as well it will have 1.5:1 D/E ratio.
✓Blue Chandra owns 30.65% stake is exiting its 12 years old investment at cost and Goldman Sachs partially exiting its 8 years old investment at loss of 40%.
✓It looks investors are desperate to exit.
For me debt is biggest concern in this company and they still have huge debt post IPO and they will need more if they want to expand more in future.
I am more happy in Hospital stocks rather than hospitality stocks. Atleast in hospital stocks there is consistent cash flow.

It can go anywhere post IPO and I don't care about it. There are plenty other stocks to make money. Just because one more IPO came to seek survival I won't put my money into it.

I invest in business where there is solid growth visibility, good cash flow, strong balance sheet, promoters are clean and ambitious, valuation is reasonable or in line with growth. I avoid finding dark or grey horses.

Thanks 🙏
48.10. Pbdrajkot |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2023 1:48:24 AM (200+ Posts)
@Jetha Lal Good analysis 🙏
48.11. Jetha Lal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 18, 2023 2:33:56 PM
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@ValueSeeker Ji
What's your action for SAMHI?
It seems QIB is coming and i think they are going to cross 10X or maybe more
47. B.M.SURANA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 11:15:12 AM
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Jodhpur Beawar Raipur
GMP
₹15/= ₹17/=

Retail Subject to Shauda: ₹1300/= ₹1400/=
SHNI Subject to Shauda: ₹18k - ₹19k
47.5. B.M.SURANA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 7:49:01 PM
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Jainam broking.(surat based).
The are very big in surat and planning to come for IPO.(Drhp filed).
47.6. B.M.SURANA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2023 12:54:50 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2700+ Posts, 5300+ Likes)
"SAMHI" Listing par Swami karega kya?
Kabel ki kya kaabiliyat hai?
Zaggle Zinga lala?
46. Asoke sarkar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 11:48:02 AM
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Samhi's Kabil juggling !
45. IPO mining |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 11:15:27 AM (200+ Posts)
When there is a buffet of stocks and IPOs then why this.... High risk not much reward
44. Aniii |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 12:00:04 AM
Koi hasna mat 😅 Research ki he thoda tuta futa

World Cup Ind vs Pak 14 Oct ko Narendra Modi Stadium me hoga all 3-7 Star Hotel booked in approx 7-10x price as compared to normal price
aur inke 3 Hotel Ahmedabad me he
PAT increase hoga Quater Result acche aayenge SAMHI HOTEL STONKS 📈📈📈
44.3. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 1:25:55 AM
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G-20 me inki 2 properties ko 120 cr ke aaspas contract mila tha

Next year 78 cr PAT
44.4. Samraheja |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2023 11:41:21 PM
To apko lagta hai match ke baad company profit mein aa jayegi😂
43. IpoZINDAHAI |   Link |  Bookmark | September 13, 2023 10:35:39 PM
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Total anchor book of 616.54 crores.. of that 21.81% or 134.47 crores by Govt. of Singapore and monetary Authority of Singapore.

Anchor book looks like a good mix of FIIS and DIIS.

Looks good..
42. svh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 13, 2023 9:50:17 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2600+ Posts, 3700+ Likes)
ANCHOR INVESTORS

SHAMI ⚓ 35 AIs ⚓

https://www.bseindia.com/markets/MarketInfo/DispNoticesNCirculars.aspx?page=20230913-50

ZAGGLE ⚓ 23 AIs ⚓

https://www.bseindia.com/markets/MarketInfo/DispNoticesNCirculars.aspx?page=20230913-52
🙏👍
41. Kiaan |   Link |  Bookmark | September 13, 2023 1:12:34 PM
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It will be prudent to think about the possible secondary market senario after 10- 15 days, before applying in any IPO, particularly ,this one.
Margin of safety is important.
40. Amit Chheda |   Link |  Bookmark | September 13, 2023 12:37:28 AM
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Skipping this ipo... Irrespective of gmp Or anchor book i am totally skipping this ipo..
39. AMIT IND |   Link |  Bookmark | September 13, 2023 12:20:20 AM
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Good company with very bright future. Keep in mind steep valuation by loss making company with F V Re 1. Listing gains may be restricted but long term may be in tacked.
38. KRISHNAA IPO |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2023 10:46:51 AM
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Gmp 42-44
Jaipur ajmer bandikui
38.1. Saudagar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2023 1:33:47 PM
Ye samhi k buyers ko ahmedabad bhejo yaha to koi premium hi h nahi h iska
38.2. Small Investor |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2023 5:53:54 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2200+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
KYA BAT H BANDIKUI M BHI LOG SHARE MARKET M KAM KRTE H PHIR TO DAUSA LALSOT MAHUWA M BHI SHARE MARKET KE BARE M JANTE H
37. IPO mining |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2023 8:20:33 AM (200+ Posts)
Festival, tourist, meeting, market.. everything is priced in now.. how much more head room is remaining that's the only doubt
36. KING VINOD |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2023 11:04:58 PM
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SAMHI Hotels Ltd GMP 20 ~ 30 {Sellers Tone}@ 10pm # 11 September
35. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2023 10:57:57 PM
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Going to Apply FF In this IPO
35.1. The Nest |   Link |  Bookmark | September 12, 2023 8:24:29 AM
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I also join you with FF
34. sang |   Link |  Bookmark | September 11, 2023 10:04:46 PM
SAMHI HOTELS 35 BUYERS!!

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