Dear as per current position maximum shares is sold out @600/ per application Maximum shares are also allotted to those who has sold out so price can not be on discounted rate Premium should be around 14-15 rs I hope
Above 30 PE and paid stoogee in forom is clear indication that any ipo is going to give negative return (Ccd Roadsideromeo, prabhat neotrade).thankfully in shk no such stoogee.
I m just reviewing the ipo price vs actual price post 1 month. Navkarv 155 to 184 Penn eng below listing Prabaht 110 to 143 Sadbhav 100 to 102 Puskarv62 to 77 Ccd 328 to 265 1 month not done Interglobe 965 to 1000 Except pen pebbs and ccd no company infact giiving negative returns and all the issues went under subscribed if u calcualte putting 12 lacs i each ipo at least after one month you got 2 lacs aprox 12 % return including ccd losses.
good suggestion it important to put money but it is more important to put more money on good horse one thing from this year IPO is very clear loss making company have not faired well all loss making company have given negative return also company with high PE in excess of 30 plus have also given negative return maybe IPO with less then 30 PE is way to go
Septa ji What shuld be priceaccding to u at which we shuld enter in sh kelkar as per your pe analysis? I have not applied in this due to steep pricing.pl suggest.
On performance front, on consolidated basis the company has posted an average EPs of Rs. 5.17 (on diluted basis) and RONW of 15.6% for last three fiscals and Rs. 15 is value added it the share holders however blackstone got something for 60 bucks wants it to see at 180 bucks which does not make sense my fair price would be 120.... however with blackstone angel i will another 20% so Rs144... 180 is rich but then again market has its own way of pricing and i hope it list at premium for the sake of RII
Ok .value buying would be 144.if some how discounted listing happens I will buy it.taking the note that makets r bottom lows and if 5% market rise till dec this 144 can become 180 which is issue price.
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November 15, 2015 12:29:26 AM
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GMP 34-36 (No sellers, only buyers) Listing on Monday, 16th November
Don''t sell in opening ... Wait for later part of the day ... Intra day high expected to be 260-275
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November 15, 2015 1:05:05 AM
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260 list fundamental at 180 PE was 52 which i thought was over the top for a company which has NP margin of 12% and growth of CARG in single digit and industry growth is below 5% for last decade.... why should a FMCG supplier get such high PE as it customer is over my understanding..... if that is case then all FMCG supplier should also get same high PE anyway sometime market just play the important card and forget the fundamental In this case the trupmh card is blackstone but still vaualtion is very steep anyway best of LUCK
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November 15, 2015 1:12:16 AM
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Also 260 will take PE close to 80 anyway i find many many bluechip FMCG cheap... only one thing can support for such high 80 PE would be if blackstone wants it first listing big hit bcoz it has many many many more companies to list and this blackstone first PE investment to list in INDIA so RII could benefit and i hope this story plays for RII sake
FMCG stock HUL was trading between Rs 250 to 280 in 2 to 3 years back but sudenly a spart has taken place and trading in the range of Rs 800/-.Why So PE multiple .Many analysts are not able to digest the current PE multiple. Normally the PE multiple may not work for future. What I am thinking is the present condition or present book value will not work. Every thing depends on future outlook.this is proved in Indigo. At present there is no book value for Indigo .That means the ongoing debt and the value of assets are equal. (NAV is almost zero =Rs 14 as per RHP. or negetive as per tulsian.)It is trading around Rs 1000/-based on the expected EPS of Rs 62.So stocks will trade on the basis of expected EPS from increased sales.No value for NAV/book value/Assets.
Tnx eagleye sir for updating valuable info about kelkar......plz update gmp today evening also.....tnx in advance
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November 15, 2015 11:46:51 AM
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@seenuipo agree that value is based on future earning however in case of kelkar present earn is nothing much to be proud of intact both top line and bottom line has headed south YOY also this industry of flavour and fragrance is a very slow growing industry below 5% so growth which determine future value is not present. Plus SH Kelkar is not a FMCG we should came this clear it is a supplier BTW biggest supplier to FMCG is chemical industry at we all know what PE this industry is discount then why SHK given higher PE then FMCG
In regards to indigo I think it is high price at 1000 given the industry peers both national and international this is Bcoz of lower crude price I got alloted 2430 share and already brought and sold in last three days given the price movement however I think looking at deliverable portion of below 20% the stock is becoming traders favourite.
Anyway best of luck on list and hope it regards as much or more then indigo
one reason can be why it is treated like a fmcg is becain this industry unlike chemical industry the flavour and fragrance using cos. do not change their suppliers and hence the higher valuation
@von i take ur point but 50 PE is very very rich more then FMCG does not make sense BTW who told u flavours do not change they change bhai they change BTW most flavours r synthetic so again chemical based anyway comparing it with FMCG and valuation IMO is wrong may be a PE of 20 would be right.... 50 plus PE is recipe for disaster IMO no way paying such high premium when market leader is available for half the price and now all three market leader have already made a big base in india and already taking big market share
Listing of SH Kelkar in d range of 210-215 and will go upto 231/- on listing day itself. Hold all yr alloted shares tightly n enjoy a profit of 51/- per share
All know in this forum I was not bullish on S H Kelkar and did not apply given its steep pricing and comparables with world market leader anyway best of luck who have applied and got allotment. The listing will depend on demand as some forum members informed that GMP is good so hope it list at premium forsake of Retail Investor...
Indigo has been a Blast ! SH Kelkar will likely follow the suit ! Current Market sentiments very very high for Kelkar ! Big Players looking towards Kelkar .. Kudos al Kelkar allottes ..Reap another gain !
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November 13, 2015 12:47:57 PM
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Forthcoming Listings NSE Symbol Series Company Name ISIN Date of Listing SHK EQ S H Kelkar and Company Limited INE500L01026 16-NOV-15 -
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November 13, 2015 12:47:41 PM
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Dear Eagleye.please give yr mobile nos if u don''t mind. Thanks
Does Anybody have NSE or BSE link which indicates listing date?
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November 13, 2015 12:45:37 PM
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Notice No. 20151113-2 Notice Date 13 Nov 2015 Category Company related Segment Equity Subject Listing of Equity Shares of S H Kelkar and Company Limited Attachments Annexure I.pdf Annexure II.pdf Content Trading Members of the Exchange are hereby informed that effective from Monday, November 16, 2015, the Equity Shares of S H Kelkar and Company Limited shall be listed and admitted to dealings on the Exchange in the list of ‘B’ Group of Securities.
Name of the company : S H Kelkar and Company Limited Securities Market Lot : One Share Scrip Code : 539450