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40. S.kadian |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 11:16:08 PM
S chand Company is not fraud its 100% genuine but financials not good
39. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 9:58:14 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Source based info:
The issue was suppose to come at 740-750 price band however after the CL Educate flop show price is reduce to Rs 570-585. Source say if roadshows does not go well the IPO will not take place
39.1. Roz Mary Marlo |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 10:30:26 PM (200+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Thank u for the information....

As I said, business is good and not like any education company...They are in to printing and publication.....The valuations are too high but this not CL edu....This is good old company but valuation cannot be justified......

But it has all the ingredients of a fancy stock which operators really love....So it will be very volatile either up or down....

As I agree with Mr.Septa, the valuation cannot be justified......So it can be risky....
38. Bharat vaishnavi |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 9:07:19 PM (200+ Posts)
Avoid ....another CL educate. .
37. PKK |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 7:42:05 PM
As far as I know S CHAND is not a fraud company. A very old company
No doubt they are coming with very expensive IPO
Rs 5 share at Rs 580
Even share of Reliance Ind of Rs 10 is trading at about Rs 1400
No doubt they are asking a big premium
We can avoid the IPO
Take an example of CL EDUCATION
S CHAND is a publication company
Both the companies are different
It is SEBI who should take care of the investors
SEBI is legging behind
Otherwise CL EDUCATION come with any IPO at such an expensive premium
37.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 9:02:24 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Just for information Naveent and SC business model is little different yes both r in education one is publication and another is in lucrative stationary business both export and domestic. Present uptrend in NAvneet is bcoz of it stationary business and demerger speculation which will unblock shareholders value

IMO compare this two is comparing apples 🍎 and oranges 🍊
37.2. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 9:04:59 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Sorry wrong thread
36. Roz Mary Marlo |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 6:33:57 PM (200+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Dear Septa...

I really don''t know anybody here..If they respond to my message what can I do.....

I will appreciate if you can give opinion on my analysis...I think I am fair in saying Navneet and S chand has same business model...

I am not giving any target or forcing anyone to buy...Even i don''t know the valuation of this company or whether it is worth investing...Time will tell...

If you are a good trader just smile it off brother....Lots of member are dependent on you for tips....Let me tell you a real trader never gives tips...

I also do follow some members here. I am also on other websites......But I generally come to gaze market sentiments and not to post anything...

Today I saw this guy giving bad words to a forum member on his mother...So I posted else maybe I could have gone to some other forum for secondary market

So please chill...I respect you a lot...But healthy debate is good for forum...

Henceforth I will avoid posting...I will only visit to gaze market sentiments....All the best to you......

But if I see something wrong then i will interfere for sure....

Honestly look at this IPO differently.....if valuation justified then this is better than Hudco....Will be cleared after listing....

Think big in life....Just don''t be a forum king....


36.7. Roz Mary Marlo |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 10:01:09 PM (200+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Chill Bhai...Ok....u win this debate....

Let''s have dinner and then sleep.....

U have been very successful in throwing me out of this forum...But trading is important to me... Everything else is timepass....So be happy.....

I will come to pass time here again and to see your serious business of helping members ....God bless you.....

But seriously check the listing of S Chand....It will surprise you...this will be a fancy stock for operators.....Now please don''t ask me explanation for this.....
36.8. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2017 1:33:35 PM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Before IPO or shares, first we have do yoga in the morning. Pauper or a Wealthy man is next. Health first, makes us think better.

35. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 5:40:28 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
All members in forum are welcome in New competition called "Catch the Stooges" or should we call it "Hunt the Stooges".
Some help to catch the stooges
1. Very good english
2. Will appear in new avatar before the issue
3. Will disappear after the issue
4. Chand ki sawari promise kara gay
5. Come up with illogical valuation

35.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 5:42:42 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
6. They come in groups
7. If attack one another will attack you
34. Roz Mary Marlo |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 5:30:09 PM (200+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Dear Jigarbhai,

Please see the technical chart of Navneet from 19 Jan to 30 March.....

Valuation of S Chand not done but sector looks very attractive....

Please see the business model of Navneet and S Chand......You will get the answer.....Do your own research...

Bhai have patience ....You said bad things to a member here...Respect every analysis....Use your brain to invest...

Bhagwan ne demaag diya hai....Sahi dhang se usko use Karo...

Your that msg has been removed but it was in bad taste and hurting to @mayurrock.....
34.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 6:00:48 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
every thing is attractive if it comes at good price. IF IT COMES AT 570 PLUS IPO PRICE I DO NOT SEE ANY ATTRACTION WHAT PRICE IT ATTRACTIVE TO YOU ROSE
33. jigarchhatrala |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 5:02:46 PM
fake company like CL educate .. investors please research on this annual report, and please dont go with this DILHI KA FRAUD..
32. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 4:16:24 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
S Chand & Company IPO

Issue Information: (Tentative)

Issue Opens on: ?? April 2017
Issue Closes on: ?? April 2017
Issue Type: Book Built Issue IPO
Issue Size: 1,11,95,650 Equity Shares
Face Value: Rs 5 per Equity Share
Issue Price: Rs.575 – Rs.580 per Equity Share
Market Lot: 25 shares
Listing At: NSE, BSE

Equity Shares outstanding prior to the Issue = 2,98,44,496 Equity Shares
Fresh Issue of 51,72,414 Equity Shares @580/- aggregating up to Rs.3,000 million
Offer for Sale of 60,23,236 Equity Shares @580/- aggregating up to Rs. 3,500 million
Total Issue of 1,11,95,650 Equity Shares @580/- aggregating up to Rs.6,500 million
Equity Shares outstanding after the Issue = 3,50,16,910 Equity Shares

Category-wise Break up:
Anchor – 33,58,695 Shares = 194.80Crs.
Net QIB – 22,39,130 Shares = 129.87Crs
NII – 16,79,347 Shares = 97.40Crs
RII – 39,18,478 Shares = 227.27Crs. (Lot size: 25 = 156,739 Forms)

Total Issue – 1,11,95,650 Equity Shares = 649.35Crs.

Subscription required for 1X
RII = 156,739 Forms
NII = 97.40 Crs

Interest cost @7%p.a. for 7days = 7.786paise for 1X
31. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 4:00:58 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
S Chand & Company IPO:

Promoter of the Company: Mr. Dinesh Kumar Jhunjhnuwala & Mr. Himanshu Gupta

Financial Information (Basis of Valuation):

EPS for FY13-14 >>> Rs.16.60 (Page #114 of DRHP)
EPS for FY14-15 >>> Rs.10.52 (Page #114 of DRHP)
EPS for FY15-16 >>> Rs.17.09 (Page #114 of DRHP)
EPS for Q116-17 >>> Rs.(9.52) (not annualised)


RoNW for FY13-14 >>> 11.86% (Page #115 of DRHP)
RoNW for FY14-15 >>> 7.00% (Page #115 of DRHP)
RoNW for FY15-16 >>> 7.82% (Page #115 of DRHP)
RoNW for Q116-17 >>> (5.01)% (not annualised)

NAV as on June 30, 2016 was Rs.190.02 (Page #115 of DRHP)

Listed Industry Peer >>> Navneet Education Limited (Page #116 of DRHP)
31.5. Anandk |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 11:02:52 PM
First you make yourself what you write and what you want others to interpret it.

Who cares whether YOU are optimistic about its future cash flows or not?
31.6. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 8, 2017 9:52:10 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
AnandK i am very clear with this IPO it is high priced loss making company in sector which has not given any returns and i am very sure all in this forum understand. Only person who is positive on this loss making company is U not clear why u r so optimistic on this IPO
30. kiah |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 3:38:03 PM
Price band ???
Any idea
29. Roz Mary Marlo |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 2:17:23 PM (200+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Dear Mayurrocks...

I do not agree with your target but I do agree with your logic....

Looking at the business model of this company, I think it is no where close to EDUCATION SECTOR....Guess what??? The main expenditure of this company is buying raw material which is "PAPER"....This is into publishing and printing....So can be compared to Navneet or Jagran....But Jagran is into newspaper business, so Navneet publication is ideal peer....

I don''t know the balance sheet has no comment on valuation....But I do adore your guts and ignore people cursing you....Do your own analysis...All the best....
29.1. Anandk |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 4:11:49 PM
I am positive on this one.
28. S.kadian |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 1:17:48 AM
What''s reason for loss suddenly in June quarter
27. S.kadian |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 1:15:47 AM
Sept and DEC quarter might be more terrible that''s why may not provided?
26. S.kadian |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 1:14:02 AM
People expecting March 17 results, however S chand just giving figures of June quarter. Where are sep and DEC quarter figures? This shows how much management is serious about operations of company. After IPO will they care about anything?
25. S.kadian |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 1:09:48 AM
Who will apply in loss.making company whereas profit making company CL listed below issue price. It will only give loss to investors
24. S.kadian |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 1:07:42 AM
Loss making and price of IPO is high so better to avoid
23. Mcp |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2017 7:08:19 PM
this is like CL educate price is higher I think its open down avoid it.
22. Mayyurocks |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2017 5:51:02 PM
It may list around 700/-
22.3. jigarchhatrala |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 4:58:58 PM
i am sorry for the comment, but please dont upload spam msgs , fake gmp''s and much more positive review .,
only discuss on one point of view.
all the investors are confuse because of fake informations and apply in wrong companies..
22.4. jigarchhatrala |   Link |  Bookmark | April 6, 2017 4:59:59 PM
like CL educate..
i am speaking my own experience
21. master strock |   Link |  Bookmark | April 5, 2017 2:26:32 PM
Performance for June 2016 Quarter is horrible. Company has incurred loss on subdued turnover. Clearly Avoid.