Looks like HNI will be in dilemma to apply in BHNI or SHNI. In BHNI allocation is sure however it could be even more than half of the bid quantity. In SHI , it will be mostly lottery.
81. Kishore S| Link| Bookmark|
April 29, 2022 11:39:07 AM
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Already have good exposure in KIMS, which has better performance metrics than Rainbow or any other listed peers. I will enter in Rainbow only after it corrects to a reasonable valuations
After QIB craziness in campus, rainbow should show some multi (digit) colours tomorrow? Seems new HNI rules has some hidden impact on QIB. Looks like hungry ultra HNIs ( funded and self funded) moved to QIB category via route of QIB services...Just a wild thought/possibility..
Yes, sir, quite a possibility. Regular Ultra HNIs investors must have already found some indirect ways to still earn in IPOs. pls advice for this ipo as subscriptions are not picking up though company and ipo looks quite positive and nothing negative here. Not understanding why subscription haven't picked up... it doesn't seems locked funds issue much...
@snipperRaj, The following could be the reasons for low in subscriptions as of today: - There were 2 issues closing today, people were focusing on those - Campus GMP was high compare to negligible in Rainbow
However, in my personal opinion, in long term, Rainbow is going to give good returns (fairly managed hospital stocks will give better returns consistently most of the times than any other sectors).
great, looks good for long term as stock is quite decently looking hospital chain. for short term, need to wait how QIBs apply and wait for 2.30pm time.
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April 29, 2022 9:37:17 AM
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Block of third party ASBA in most banks and due to many issues going on at the same time, RII subscription might be less than 3 as per my expectation.
Brand value & Reputation : (+) Excellent Expansion possibilities : (+) On card (North East zone - as per management) Management capability : (+) Proven positive track record (Execution skills) Margins : (+) High, Less inventory costs, enjoying more margins (Multi critical disease handling) + Central hub model Speciality of segment : (+) Children health care, only have listed peers two or three as per management (1 in US & 1 in China) Dividend policy : (+) Every year dividends paying (As per Management commentary) IPO asking price : (-) Negative: Asking price is high Overall sector performance : (~) Neutral, except few specific
Overall opinion : Good for Long term appreciation (Listing gains / Short term: Cannot surely say)
Disclosure : Applied 4 retail accounts
74.1. Learner SK| Link| Bookmark|
April 29, 2022 9:34:01 AM
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Retail ipo - Thanks. On pricing, as per Davda Sir's review, asking PE is 43. How are Indian peers / sectoral leaders placed?
As per the offer document, RCML has shown Apollo Hospitals, Fortis Healthcare, Narayana Hrudayalaya, Max Healthcare and Krishna Institute as its listed peers. They are currently quoting at a P/E of 108.88, 00, 172.53, 146.19 and 40.96 (As of April 22, 2022). However, they are not truly comparable on an apple-to-apple basis. source Dilip Davda review
means if small hni is oversubscribed then big hni still get minimum application of 2L not more than that proportionality, as they share the balance shares with small hni. (till overall hni category is oversubscribed)
let assume that, taking hypothetical example S-HNI catgory subscribed 5X of his 1/3 portion B-HNI category only subscribed 80% of 2/3 portion
then all investors from B-HNI category will get full allotment and balance 20% will go to S-HNI category,
now after this additional shares to S-HNI category still if number of applied applications are more than available applications (1/3 + 20% of b-hni) then in this category allotment will be on lottery.
in respective sub-category of HNI allotment will happen first on proportionate basis and if shares left then only it will transfer to other sub-category.
Hospital staffs (Nurses and paramedicals) are poorly paid. Most are contractual and some in professional mode (not counted as employees). The pool of employees are very less and they may not be financially informed and may not be interested.
71.3. Kishore S| Link| Bookmark|
April 29, 2022 2:52:53 AM
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The attrition of doctors is also high.
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April 29, 2022 9:35:13 AM
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MRavi - Sir, option 2 is reality.
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April 28, 2022 10:23:56 PM
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@EVA What is your suggestion should we apply or not .Also are you going to apply?
70.1. eVA| Link| Bookmark|
April 28, 2022 11:22:46 PM
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Dear,
I have already applied from 3 retail application single lots, if QIB crossed at least 25X then will decide to apply more one s-hni application with minimum lots only.
All is good about this company but the asking price is already on the higher side, also after the HNI rule changed, the campus listing will be the first listing so we need to access the impact of this rule on listing for types of IPOs like this Rainbow Children's Medicare IPO, the market is volatile one day up one day down.
I would suggest you can consider applying here with limited qty as per your risk-taking ability, we already knew KIMS listing so this IPO may also give a surprise short-term gain(but the supporting part in KIMS IPO was retail portion was only 10% here it is 35%, so I am cautious and avoiding full force)
Very very precise advise in short note...thanks legend for your valuable suggetion...on this counter....will require your valuable inputs in forthcoming sme Sonu infratech ipo....have good day... Blessing from forum members...
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April 29, 2022 7:06:45 AM
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Because of campus issue as well as lesson learn from paytm Ags and cartrade now retailers become very choosy so Rainbow will subscribe but not in higher side in retail category might be 2 to 3×