HaHa..6th sense !!!...his master m.gupta has given him 6th...but he takes 7th senses from my comments..look at his all posting after NH......enlarging anything no doubt he has phd ...i always post in short since i using smart phone .....
decreasing profits high P/E no long term growth prospects. better stock available in midcap IT at P/E in single digits.
Fourth Dimension with no deby and increasing sales/profit is available at 7 p/e. Stay way from this IPO
I am afreaid that if such IPO comes with expensive valuation it wont do anything good for both primary and secondary market first it will squueze liquidity, second no fundamentals support such high P/E
a clear Avoid IPO. People who want to apply only for listing gain might get too dissapointed incase it does n''t get that subscription.
friends according to me there are no chances of quickheal to list at discount, there are some positives for quickheal.
1) quickheal is the first of its kind of company to list in market in India which could create fancy.
2) the grey market premium is on the increasing trend from the time the gmp activities started. The gmp has not gone down till now as it was in case of precision camshafts where gmp was on downward trend.
3) guys sometimes we have to go with the flow, which is most important.
But always take your own decisions by yourself, this is my view and I may be wrong. but I have marked this things in IPOs. So do your homework before applying.
1> Suppose I apply for 2 or more lot from one account, then probability of allotment is lower then if I applied for only 1 lot.
That means in which criteria I will get most allotment from one account.
2> Suppose I have 5 DP account of my family member, then is it possible I can apply from my bank account to all of them ?
3> Suppose I apply for more then 2 Lacks from One account i.e as a HNI(NII) then I can limit to 2-2.20 L to get full allotment as a HNI ? Or it will be also on lottery based. No matter 2 or 5 Lacks. No one can get full allotment only partial.
4> Any IPO in the history of BSE/NSE one get more then 50 times subscription and open in discount.
Looking forward to hear from some experts. Thanks in advance.
213.1. CLD| Link| Bookmark|
February 9, 2016 3:17:56 PM
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On one PAN you can apply for one application in any category
You can apply 5 applications from one a/c provided sign in ASBA space should match with that on a/c holder in the bank.
You should always apply for one lot in any issue you feel applying. It is becaif issue is oversubscribed, then you will get only one lot in lottery. If the issue is bad, you will still get one lot but you will suffer minimum loss.
You should never apply in HNI. You need to have bagful of money since the more the money you put in the more the chances of getting allotment. You have to invest at least 10 lakh to expect small allotment.
Where HNI is not fully subscribed you may get full allotment in investing any amount but then you know the fate of PCL today.
Our friend Septa got full allotment of 15000 shares worth 27 lakh in PCL & has added more yesterdy but then he must have earned a lot in Indigo issue. May be he has lot of money not to bother about losses.
You should not invest more than 20% of cash in the market.
You should not be leveraged ie you should not play with borrowed capital.
losses always hurt yaar..... yes i made good money indigo but that actual not my best IPO for last year anyway.... With regards TO PCL i am heavy on the stock but still it only accounts for less then 2% of total stock.... safe measure is 5% so i am still bullish as mu horizon is long....
My view on HNI application is little different only apply in this catorgy if the quote is subscribed less in 5 times so u get value for money... In case of team lease for sure short allotment ur outlay was close to 30 lakhs for 15 shares.... which does not make sense
PCL VWAP WAS AROUND 169 YESTERDAY IT WAS 178 IF TOMORROW WE SEE A FALL IN SAME RANGE THAT ANOTHER 5% THEN IT WILL BE IN SIDELINE FOR FEW WEEKS OR ATLAS MONTH FRESH BUYING CAN BE DONE ONLY AFTER SEEING A UPTICK FROM CLOSE
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February 9, 2016 1:47:28 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
In my limited experience ... there is no website which gives GMP as reliable as Chittorgarh ... so please keep coming here regularly ... to get your regular dose of IPO gyaan ... and keep abreast of the latest GMP )
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February 9, 2016 2:00:46 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Dear Wasimbhai,
I can tell you what I am going to do ... I cannot advise you what you should be doing.
Tomorrow, if I see ... QIBs subscription more than 20times ... or ... NII subscription more than 100times ... Then I will apply ... otherwise I shall not apply.
Friends I want to put a frank view to all of u. Friends everyone would agree that we r in this market to make money. Now a few important rules to follow 1) Always look for fundamentals of company and total income, PE and profits of last 5 yrs. 2) PE ratio should be below 30. 3) Company vision and future growth prospects. 4) Interest in the market for the IPO. 5) What is the QIB n NII subscription levels. Never go on RII subscription as they r always easily mislead and most dont know whats head n tail of the issue. 6) If in doubt, wait till last day to see QIB and NII subscription. QIBs also should not be taken seriously as its not their money. NIIs are the smart ones. Wait till last day to clear your doubts to apply or not seeing NII subscription.
Golden Rule- a) If u have invested for listing gain then hold for 2/3 days if the price is in positive zone. b) If the price is in negative zone then do nat take more than 10% loss. Exit. c) If u find the cost going down n u r there for the long haul then buy more and average. d) Never blame anyone. No one forces ur mind and hands to invest. Always take responsibility for ur decisions to invest or not to invest.
Coming to PCL- Seeing the fundamentals of the company, I had decided to invest but sixth sense told me to hold till last day to see QIB n NII subscription. I was very very positive for this company. However, when I saw the NII not subscribing, I stopped and didnt subscribe. Mind u till the last day the GMP was positive. N see the results. U have to be flexible in the share market and one should be pragmatic enough to realise that if the things are not as desired then always listen to ur sixth sense and avoid applying. Similarly, incase of Teamlease, the company was highly overvalued but was good for listing gains and short term. I had no intention of applying but seeing the enthusiasm of NIIs I also applied at the last moment. The company is still to list but I hope the decision pays off if I am allotted shares. I would not blame any one nor would I take any credit for any sort of success or failure. However, there are some boarders who have nothing else to do but to mislead others, make fun of others and try to put others down. They will always try to show that they said so and they were correct. However, no one is expert. Its always a learning phase. Mistakes are part of learning. Learn instead of blaming others.
well said Rajeev.. Its all up to an individual to take wise decision since its their hard earned money. Advise can always be considered to take a decision but that shouldn''t be the only one.
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February 9, 2016 6:22:18 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Raju rajkamal....then at abt....Navkar...pushkar...s.h.kelkar......what u u u have done in that......please,reply ...
Sonmaya. To be frank NH was my first IPO where I made some profits. Subscribed for PCL and got the allotment, will sell when it meets my expectation. The reason I commented is some of the members point others if they couldnt get profit. End of the day its our money so better to take informed decision which is what I got to know.
Bhaiyon everyone has heard of the Gini and dog story. Similarly, there are some people whose poonch can never become straight ever. Kitna kuch bhi karo, dogs poonch will always become tedha.
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February 9, 2016 11:41:16 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
QHT Grey market premium is slipping ... Yesterday GMP trades had taken place @78 (yesterday''s high) Today very few buyers even @68 (last trade but with low Volumes)
Maybe it is also coz the index is down today
However, Market is expecting subscription to be: QIB around 12 times NII around 150 times RII less than 4 times
Still 36 hours left for your predictions fate.....
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February 9, 2016 12:34:29 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Yes starripo Sir, Tomorrow after 6pm we will have the final tally for QIB & NII ... and after 10pm we will have final tally for RII.
My numbers are for subscription levels at "upper" level of the price band ... Whereas, BSE/NSE give subscription numbers at "lower" level of the price band ... so my numbers may be higher than their numbers by 2-3%
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February 9, 2016 1:46:48 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Shivajee Sir,
In my limited experience ... there is no site which gives GMP as reliable as Chittorgarh ... so please keep coming here regularly ... to get your regular dose of IPO gyaan ... and keep abreast of the latest GMP