I appreciate and thank all of you. You are throwing lights on different aspects.
1. Some people like you have the privilege to understand and predict market conditions. Some like me who are in other types of work keep markets as secondary job, dont have much time to understand although i am trying to study it whenever possible. I go by the advice of experienced in taking decisions. Keep posting your opinions from time to time.
2. I am curious to know what we should do with IPOs coming here after in 2016. 3 IPOs have passed and no success yet. Two applied and one no allotment. Going by the history, I found the 90% of 2007-2010 IPOs were red listing due to turbulent market conditions where there was around 8k fall in sensex.
Now also its almost same almost 7 k fall from 30 k. Since I made heavy loss in Indigo and others, I want to make up for that by lsting gains of forthcoming IPOs. Should I apply for correctly valued IPOs this year, or those will also be in negative listing (like it happened in precision cam)? I want to apply those profits made, I can invest the profit amount only in growing IPOs stocks for short to mid term.
investing is like a relationship from time to time u have make decision and compromise so see the relationship grow same with equity investment u have to discipline and sometime compromise looking at big picture.
101 on investor u should look are u a speculator or investor... once this is understood u actual done 90% on work.... i follow simple rule follow the leader buy leadership stock when target met book profit and always always have stop loss becacapital safety is most important in growing and protecting ur investment
2015 my portfolio grew at 40% however 2016 in less then two months my portfolio is down 25% also it pays to stay long some of 100 bagger did not come in one year or 3 years it took anywhere between 7 to 15 years.... that is reason i like to hold free stock buy and sell that much which make ur portfolio free and then u can this cash for other investment
I was speculator in 2015. I will book profit and get out if i see green. Regarding IPO, i was for listing gain only.
I am of the opinion that rather than seeing red in bear market, book whenever u see green. It is safe before losing capital as well. In Indian sensex, as I said earlier, most retailers are not able to withstand losses, thats why I take pride in "porfit making speculator" than being a "high principled" loss making investor. Its just my strategy Septa, am not against your views. Your views may hold good for your lifestyle. I m just talking in favor of micro-small investors.
Now, I understood ur points, but please comment your views on questions regarding forthcoming IPOs for 2016 (please answer question 2 of post 536)
Given the weak secondary market not many IPO will come given the weak market. Many IPO r in pipeline but will wait for market to improve.... SINCE u have label me HIGH PRINCIPAL LOSS MAKING INVESTOR u should not take any of suggestion and just go my the follow and GMP and speculate and apply IPO with high GMP and hope u get allotted
No Septa, you have misunderstood me completely. I am very sorry, if it sent a misunderstanding msg to you. What I mean is that,
1. Your long term approach is correct like you said, for high networth individuals. This is a good principle only. But at the same time, chota fellows who are jobless jacks or having little capital to invest, they want to see some money as beginners. Even I am like that, but I m not very very chota. I can take risk, but I need to see some green in the beginning and then with that money, invest for any period of time.
2. I heard from net, people holding IT stocks in 1995-2000 made a fortune by holding for long time.
But as a yet-to-see Greenery fellow, I wanted to speculate, and I find this IPO listing gain route as a sure-shot avenue (at least much much better than broker calls).
This forum is much more better than those brokers, and I respect and thank people like you/others that I mentioned. I was in dilemma as this year its tough for IPOs too, and that is why I seeked your opinion.
Anyway I hope one day, I will become investor, bless me !!!
no issue wish u best of luck.... if u put ur self as a speculator investor my suggestion is to start day trading u do not have to do all stock or stock fundamental pick any high volume stock or u can dab in derivatives they r high risk high reward gives 10 bagger return in a day if ur call goes right....... on index or specific stock
for sometime i will stay way from putting money in market as the trigger for index to go up is at least 3 to 6 months however going down is days and weeks aways even now after the correction market is relatively expensive compare with world index... with this correction is nifty PE around 18.65 given some very very big correction..
So will wait for some more correction presently no risk return is 8% so 100/8 which 12.5 what it means the the risk difference between safe and unknown is 50% i would like this to come down either if interest comes down or EPS improve..... say interest rates comes down to 50 bases point so 100/7.5 safe bet improves to 13.5 and risk reduce also..
The chance of index falling 6250 is high then Index cross 9250 in short term so to be on safe side i will stay away and if i see a rally in my stock which i own i will exit for timing being at least
Fwd: ⬇IMPORTANT UPDATE ON QUICK HEAL IPO ⬇ The merchant bankers of Quick Heal IPO have filled 2 addendum to the prospectus which have material disclosures about the service tax liability on products sold as CD and DVD. As per the original prospectus the contingent liability was Appx 621million for the period from April 2011 to March,2014. In the first addendum the liability was revised to appx 910million on account of notice received for subsequent year. In the second addendum, the liability has further gone up by 560million on account of penalty order passed by the authority. Thus the total liability is 1407 millions. The order of the ADG, levying penalty and raising demand along with interests, is dated 28 Jan 2016. During the broker/analysts meet on 2nd February, 2016 which was held in Mumbai, the management did not disclosed the above facts in reply to a question raised by an analyst. They said we have a very strong case and the liability would be contested. They have also added an additional risk factor which says that, if the company has to pay service tax on products sold through CD and DVD, the same will either be passed on to the users or partially or fully absorbed by the company, revenues or profitability and margins may be impacted I feel the company and merchant bankers have suppressed material facts in the prospectus and disclosed it by filling addendum after the issue was subscribed. Hence the matter needs to be brought to the notice of the SEBI and the exchanges. Investors should be given an opportunity to withdraw the application as the disclosures made by the company, post closing of the IPO,will have material impact on the revenue and earnings of the company
Septa ji, holding all ipo form last septembar including indigo.plz,share ur view abt ALKEM N DR.LAL for caming weak.is there chance to follow indigo after good result show negative 40% down
dr lal make with bumper result so monday we could see a 5% to 10% rally however i feel the stock is very steeply price and not sure this high growth is possible in coming years... ALKEM however is safe bet given strong indian product and growing foreign market... INDIGO i have said several time i booked and what i hold is free.... anyway IMO if it fall below list price i will be buyer becau have to remember qatar wants and if it get at listing they will buy plus the issue now with indigo is not that it reported the bad second quarter but more it not getting the new NEO airbus which many analyst have put it there excel sheet to get valuation so this not coming growth of 15% plus is not possible.
BTW i am regular air travel last week some routes which normally is available at 3000 was not even available for 10000 in all air line not for one day but for few days may be some cartel job who knows
Eagleye i am sorry if i hurt you. I liked your boldness attitude & truthfullness . For me looks doesn''t matter. What matter is your attitude towards people. I found your respect towards seniors. Keep that going. Sorry i just spoke what I felt. Rest everything on you
With implementation of ASBA no applicant can withdraw his application after closing hours of last day.I enquired with link time. They said sorry.It is not like previous days. Of course one may withdraw application from the bank itself where it was submitted before closing hours on the last day.