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619. bangnewman |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 10:20:43 AM
I still think we should not completely abandon IPOs. Secondary market is volatile and chances of making loss there is more. In May I purchased around Rs.80000 in Secondary and made Rs.8000 in Oct on that investment. In COAL i made Rs.43000. In Power Grid I Made Rs.13500. In MOIL I made Rs.11000. In Nov I entered Secondary with Rs.140000 and sitting on a loss of Rs.20000. My job profile is such that I cannot do daytrade. Hence, I will still invest in IPOs where ever I think there is chances of making Money. However, my strategy is to apply ONLY on the last day.
618. Gopal Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 10:11:35 AM
IPO Fever over.
617. Pintu Todi |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 10:02:39 AM
NHPC (PSU) – IPO @ 36/-. After One year struggling at 27/- Target – 15/-. Already Loss booked – 8,000/-
NMDC (PSU) – FPO @ 300/-. After one year struggling at 260/-. Target – 210/-. Already loss booked – 8,000/-
SCI (PSU) – FPO @ 140/-. Struggling at 133/-. Target 115/-. Have to book loss. No chance to get your investment as it is PSU like NHPC, SJVNL.
SJVNL (PSU) – IPO @ 26/-. Struggling at 22/-. Target – 14/-. Already loss booked -4,000/-.
Jaypee Infra – IPO @ 102/-. After one year struggling at 65/-. Target – 40/-. Already loss booked – 21,000/-
Emmbi – IPO @ 45/-. Struggling at 19/-. Target 10/-. Already loss booked – 18,000/-.
Indiabulls Power – IPO @ 45/-. Struggling at 27/-. Already loss booked – 19,000/-.
Reliance Power – IPO @ 270/- Struggling at 170/-. Already loss booked – 15,000/-.
D B Reality – IPO @ 450/-. Struggling at 250/-. Already loss booked – 10,000/-

Forthcoming – Hind Copper (PSU), Nalco (PSU), ONGC (PSU) will try to give maximum losses to Investors. These are not like TCS, Infosys, Jubiliant, Cox etc that will think for investors rather these are only to give maximum losses to investors.

Now, after increasing limit up to 2.00 Lakhs by SEBI, retailers profit are limit and half but losses are unlimited like above. Good Govt. Good Corporate. Good SEBI.

BJP please raise the issue in Parliament as AAM Aadmi and Retailers have no other choice in this Govt. Happy losses to all investors of above.



616. Raghubhai |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 9:59:59 AM
@613
You are right. 2L limit has spoiled the primery market for Retailers.Either it should be back to 1L or raise the quota for Retailers in IPO. Some sort of compaign needed. Any idea to achieve this???
615. BM |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 9:54:58 AM
601. M Gupta...Mention Udhay Bhave as sebi CHEAP...not chief. He is useless creature.
614. AnupM |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 9:21:42 AM
The details of KOTAK Mahindra ASBA says that one can apply into different categories. If I have understood, it means a person can apply as Retail 2L application and another application worth just over 2L..

If this is true, then HNI are eating Retail portion while enjoying another HNI application.

Yes, impact is very clear -- Primary market becomes a high risk low gain and low gain only when a person is lucky.

So, why to waste our energy.. There are top-line stocks having good historical data. We can pick up them and stay invested for at least 2 years and earn low-risk-high-return value.

By example --
A person applies 2L in IRR-Infra and looses 10% on listing day.. hold to expect it to bounce back, then looses 50% (1L) High Risk..

To recover this lost money, again person aggressively applies to high bid IPOs like MOIL/PSNB -- all 2L.. However, unfortunately lucky enough to get 1 lots each.. i.e investment of 12000 only. What would be the profit i.e may be 50% i.e Mere Rs6000/-...
So, 8 these kind of good IPOs should list and one person should be lucky enough to get allotment to recover his money..

Bottom-line: 2L limit has spoiled the primary market for Retailers.

613. M&S |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 8:52:00 AM
The IPO flavor and charm is over. the ipos are not giving enough returns.
612. Sumit JainDel |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 8:34:04 AM
I avoided this IPO completely. As clear, even for 2L application (be sure for IT guys knocking you door)would go into lottery. After coal and MOIL, retail are in frenzy that every thing is hunky dory. As per market players, further 15 days, higher involvment from retail and crash. people should appriciate, FII average price is too low and retailers are trying to catch falling knife...
We should be very careful. I think operators would short this on 1st day as retailer, who would not got shares or who have got 1 lot woudl try to do day trading, like MOIL.
611. Dumb |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 2:58:39 AM
"asksebi at sebi.gov.in" plz mail here also .. for subject of my post no. 607 & 609
610. Dumb |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 2:47:56 AM
k.gera at nic.in ... this is a email id of secretory looking capital mrkt activity for fin. ministry.. plz mail them with demand to reduce retail limit to 1 lac again or to increase retail quota to 50 % ,, plz do it as its also in your intrest also. . plz do it..
609. Dumb |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 2:45:18 AM
i have applied one ASBA aplication of 1650 shares on 15th, but today i have withdrawed same and now i have planned to invest same money in secondnery mrkt only.. there is no return in primary mrkt now.. any good moving script can give u 5 % return in time span of 12 days, so its now useless to invest in primary.. bye bye IPOs..
608. Dumb |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 2:34:35 AM
plz send one email to "Secy-dea at nic.in" abt reducing retail limit again to 1 lac or increase in retail quota to 50 % .. this is a email add or finance secretory.. plz send as many as email you can .. plz do it as its also in intrest of urself also.
607. Neill |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 12:54:47 AM
The IPO game is over, at least for the retail investor ....... you can't apply for the listing gains(cos u won't get a decent allotment cos of the huge subscriptions) and you can't even sell your app for a decent amount in the grey market(again cos of the huge subscriptions) ..... cos the interest rate calculation ain't in your favor, so I have moved on to secondary mkt. If there's a formidable crash in the stock market, then only we can hope for the revival in the IPO game. ...... Screw SEBI for increasing the limit to 2 lac.
606. Santosh. |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 12:40:59 AM
i hv applied 3 application-
1-1650 sh RS 198000
2-800 sh RS 96000
3- 200 sh RS 24000
AND WAIT 4 ALLOTMENT RESULT ....THIS IS MY LAST IPO ..AFTER THAT I WILL INVEST THIS MONEY IN BANK FD AND MF
605. Ajay kumar |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 12:38:19 AM
RAISE THE ISSUE TO MINISTRY OF FINANCE Instead sending mail to SEBI OR BHAVE. BHAVE IS ONLY "KATPUTLI"
604. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 17, 2010 12:09:38 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Punjab & Sind Bank
Final figures :

QIB 49.80 = Rs.11,354Crs
NII 85.84 = Rs.5,871Crs
RII 44.45 = Rs.7,095Crs
Emp 1.61 = Rs.39Crs

Overall 49.81 = Rs.49,732Crs
603. hari HanamKonda |   Link |  Bookmark | December 16, 2010 11:31:56 PM
hi frds...even i wanna complaint the same to SEBI..

any mail id????
602. M Gupta |   Link |  Bookmark | December 16, 2010 11:16:45 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1100+ Posts, 3300+ Likes)
SEBI AND SEBI CHIEF BHAVE SHOULD BE KOOTED AND LOOTED BY GOVT FOR HIKING RETAIL LIMIT.

HE SHOULD BE ASKED FOR DATA IN FAVOUR OF AND AGAINST DOUBLING THE LIMIT
601. M Gupta |   Link |  Bookmark | December 16, 2010 11:08:58 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1100+ Posts, 3300+ Likes)
MR. BHAVE SHOULD BE SACKED FROM HIS POST OF SEBI CHEIF
600. M Gupta |   Link |  Bookmark | December 16, 2010 11:08:08 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1100+ Posts, 3300+ Likes)
DEAR ALL

I ALSO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE BOARDERS THAT THE RETAIL LIMIT SHOULD BE REDUCED BACK TO RS. 1 LAC.

IN THIS REGARD WE ALL SHOULD TAKE THIS MATTER TO MEDIA/SEBI/GOVT THROUGH APPROPRIATE CHANNELS...

I THINK SEBI (MR. BAHVE) HAS DOUBLED THE LIMIT TO BENIFIT COMPANIES AND LEAD MANAGERS AND HE HAS TAKEN A GOOD BRIBE FROM THEM... HE IS BUSY IN HIS RETAIRMENT PLANS AND DOING EVRY EFFORT TO MAKE GOOD MONEY IN HIS LAST FEW MONTHS TENURE AS SEBI CHIEF...


BUT GOVT SHOULD WAKE UP AND WE REATIL INVESTORS SHOULD ALSO WAKE UP OTHERWISE WE ALL WILL BE KOOTED AND LOOTED...

DONT GET LOOTED AND KOOTED SO EASILY... IF ANY ONE HAS MEDIA LINKS HE SHOULD HELP TO TAKE THIS MATTER TO THE MEDIA