IF MARKET GO DOWN THEN PCL MAY LIST AT 176 ? PLEASE ANSWER
205.1. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2016 2:42:21 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Yes Sir,
You are absolutely correct ... "IF MARKET GO DOWN THEN PCL MAY LIST AT 176"
Also, If nifty is on lower circuit on listing day then PCL may even list @106 ... therefore it is best to exercise caution and practice self discipline
204. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2016 1:00:49 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
200. gala| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2016 9:11:03 AM
IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Hi, I have my bank account with a cooperative bank which is not included in scsb list of sebi and also demat ac with it .... I have a another savings account with BOI Can I apply for asba physical form from BOI account but my demat being in co operative bank Plz help!
Exuberance of many of the boarders is proving to be contagious. I am more pro than against this IPO as of now. I''ll apply but the question is how many lots & at what price. Need some time to finally firm up.
Let''s hold the fire, stop analysing, sleep on it for the remaining days and decide on 29th!
Meanwhile any thoughts on bidding price?
199.2. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2016 1:03:42 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Gravitas, If you decide to apply ... then put the bidding price as either 186 or "Cut-off" ... otherwise else you will get NIL allotment
PCL listing at 106 is scary but with the precondition that nifty will hit lower circuit...... and that is more horrible...
198. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2016 3:07:33 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
YAY !! ... We finally have a separate page for Teamlease ... YAY!!!
197. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2016 1:51:46 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Precision Camshafts IPO
I will apply for the IPO, and my rational is very simple ... I may not be able to see how much upside there is on listing .... but on the other hand I do not see this IPO listing below issue price ...
Moreover, I expect a relatively low participation by Retail investors in this IPO for 2 reasons: a) many investors are still struggling with the ASBA formalities. b) there is no hype for this issue, hence many investors will be attracted to Teamlease & Parag ... which will allow me to get a higher allocation in this IPO ... thereby even if the gains are modest ... it will be on a larger allocation ... hence, I hope to get a better absolute return on my investment.
Now hereafter I do not want to get into any further Analysis-Paralysis on this issue ... It is final, I will be applying!!!
Neo Trade IN regards with ur argument of 20% growth is wrong based on fact both YOY and half year to half yearly in case on team lease This my analysis looking at real number not what it will earn in future it has taken a bigger hit in net margins Rs 10.97 crore in profit after tax in H1 as against Rs 17.2 crore in net profit in the six months ended September 30, 2014 . IMO On an annualised basis, the company may see a decline in net profit over FY15. not growth and possible is high given the reduction tax cushion from earlier loss and more tax liabitly so double whammy effect on books and this will not be good on share price in future
TL''s peers- though all of these are much bigger than TL: 1. Kelly Services : P/E 16 2. Manpower : P/E 14 3. Randstad: P/E 23 4. US Staffing Sector: P/E 18 5. Adecco: P/E 338 !!! how did that happen??
I''m still not able to wrap my head around TL''s P/E Valuation even as CF based Valuation is more agreeable.
Karan Ji it is very good business model.... and growth business model however high valuation is bcoz of PE fund exist and surely they will manipulate price both in grey market and after listing but for me such steep price share is avoid on all front it is highly priced does not make sense
195.8. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2016 1:40:54 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Even at the risk of sounding repetitive ... I urge everyone to please READ THE DRHP !!! ... One of the objectives of the IPO is "acquisition" ... so it just might be possible that they are already in dialogue with a target company ... If they do make a sensible acquisition then they can grow inorganically at a faster pace ... think about it !!!
195.9. NeoTrade| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2016 2:21:06 AM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Point well taken and certainly well researched points...would however like to point out that H1FY16 PBT is about 22-23% higher than H1FY15 PBT...H1FY16 PAT is lower than H1FY15 PAT due to ~3x more current tax paid in H1 whilst PBT grew 22% even while DTA increased by 10%...this taxation impact would get adjusted going forward and benefit PAT. Thus if PBT is inherently growing and tax shields are not being taken and staying constant then I would not fret over lower PAT which could be due to timing / one time differences, etc!
195.10. NeoTrade| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2016 2:24:56 AM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
Also, H1FY15 PBT is about 42-43% of FY15 PBT and thus H2 being a more remunerative half for the business continues to hold in my view...
i just cut and pasted the article from business standard
191.3. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
January 26, 2016 2:04:08 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Dear Septa Sir,
I cannot understand why a respectable newspaper like Business Standard (owned By Uday Kotak) will say "Almost all" ... this is grossly Misleading Journalism ...
the fact is that ... The anchor investors were ONLY domestic mutual funds and there is NOT even a single FII investor !!
190. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
January 25, 2016 8:13:57 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
TEAMLEASE SERVICES LIMITED
BOOK RUNNING LEAD MANAGERS IDFC Securities Limited Credit Suisse Securities (India) Private Limited ICICI Securities Limited
REGISTRAR TO THE ISSUE Karvy Computershare Private Limited
SORRY SORRY for my last comments. subscription is bad , FII either dont believe in price or management . i will skip. will earn in other ipos , TEAMLEASE COMMING
188. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
January 25, 2016 7:52:28 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
The IPO Committee of the Board of Directors of the Company at its meeting held on January 25, 2016 and the Selling Shareholders pursuant to their respective letters each dated January 25, 2016, in consultation with the Book Running Lead Managers, have finalized allocation of 66,15,967 Equity Shares in aggregate, to Anchor ''.lnvestors at Rs- 186 per Equity Share (including share premium of Rs. 176 per Equity Share) in the following manner:
1 SBI Mutual Fund 17,74,240 Shares 2 IDFC Mutual Fqnd 17,74,240 Shares 3 lClCl Prudential Mutual Fund 13,44,160 Shares 4. HDFC Trustee Company Limited 8,06,480 Shares 5 Birla Sunlife Trustee Company Private Limited 2,71,647 Shares 6 Canara Robeco Mutual Fund 645,200 Shares
Guys, am I reading it correctly that anchor subscription is just 7% ??? That seems a very low figure. Plz could sb double check the figure?
If the anchors have been sold at 186/-, is there any chance final issue would be less than that? PCL had one last, albeit small, window to ease the investors on aggressive pricing by going for Floor rather than Cap, but now even that''s gone.
Where is govt of singapur ????.....from where he has become deciding factor in ipo.....investors mindnow volatile seems.....i firmly believe it may looot-koooot .....
Lets not be suspicious of DII participation in Anchor...most FII''s are staying away from EM''s as they see EM''s as one basket and yet do not have the exclusive mandate to invest in India only...most issues of FY15 have also seen higher DII participation than FII.
Also, to clarify...there is a regulatory limit to the extent of Anchor so there is basically no concept of Anchor over-subscription or under-subscription. Usually only so many anchors come as is enough to fulfill anchor portion of book.
I think some of us are unnecessarily viewing anchor book with suspicion!
PCL too I am a buyer...a STRONG BUYER at that...considering all that has already been said on the board and more.
As for your observation on salary of promoters, whilst I agree that the increase in recent fiscal is distracting and an irritant...I would rationalize by saying that now the incentive for promoter to suck cash out of Company in future years is so much lower...considering that we will all factor in such a high salary in our profitability assumptions. Even after factoring this high salary the issue looks attractively priced for FY16 / FY17 performance considering macro / micro factors for the Company.
I liked the conclusion of the above report... The profitability triggers are 2 yrs away- when the new EOU will be up & running- and hence invest with at least that long horizon.
Toying with this stock just for fun or ST (listing) gains may not be a good idea.