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605. Abhilash.L.S. |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 8:31:19 PM
Sir,I''ve 1 more query related to bonus issue. If a co having face value of 10 & market value of 100 declares bonus in 1:1,post issue the fv would come to 5 (most probably)& MV of each share would be 50. The only benefit from this is that each shareholder gets the double no of shares that he hold.& when the MV becomes half the value of holding will be more or less the same. Then what is the benefit on bonus for shareholders? ??? Just the increase in the no of shares.... & for some co post bonus adjustment the face value remains the same..eg-Kothari products.. & some other fv will be half if issue is in 1:1 eg -kotak mahindra bank... & some others never give bonus or makes splits.ef-MRF .kindly please explain.....does it have any real impact?? I ve heard that thone who invested10000 in
Wiproin 1980s will get shares of 50cr or so after adjusting splits & bonus...is this true????
605.1. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 8:46:21 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
yes infosys 100 shares 1993 is 19200 plus split 1 38400 share today @ 1170 and with Div close to 5 crs value today from investment of 9000
604. Abhilash.L.S. |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 7:27:15 PM
Dear Septa/ Eagleye sir, I''m a newbie in markets. I'' ve been holding Indigo since IPO. Sir I''ve a genuine doubt.When I checked past corporate actions on Dividend, indigo has paid an avg dividend of 1550% for past 5yrs. @Current market price the dividend yield is 40%. Will I get atleast 20%dividend yield in coming yrs . .???? Please explain.Current EPS is 54.92 Can I accumulate it for mouthwatering dividend yield? ??????
604.5. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 8:31:55 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
indigo is a great company and very good business model growth... market leader in an entry barrier level to the zenith.... i was very bullish on this counter when in went on IPO and applied it in full force.... i also said earlier i have sold some portion when it my target still hold 40% of initial holding i wanted to add more this correction i think is very good entry point...which i will do soon however presently i have spice on my target after very good result and better then indigo seat ultization ratio which really surprised me if u compare apple to apple valuation spice is very attractive increase profit setting on old losses in balance sheet if next result is good we could see three figure price on spice.... With indigo i am going to buy on dips.... with regards to ur dividend i do not expect such high div any more
604.6. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 10:39:21 PM
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indigo crashed from high 1394 on 1 jan 16 to low of 857.85 on 29/1/16 and likely to touch it all time low of 849 of 10 nov 14

lost 38 % till today from high
however nobody can catch high or low it is sure all have lost 25 % and to earn 25 % in one year is next to impossible MUTUAL FUNDS who are masters cannot give more than 10 to 12 % average in 5 years
So remember to have stop loss on closing basic and act
603. sameer kasliwal |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 6:42:51 PM
GMP..of PCL start on tomorrow... After 2 pm
My view..15 to 20...
602. Fundamental Stock |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 6:19:55 PM
Gmp still 18
Listing approx 195-200
602.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 9:14:16 PM
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Wake up ... and smell the coffee
601. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 5:10:20 PM
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PCL GMP is now ... Sub-Zero !!!
601.13. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 9:15:18 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
GMP of monte carlo power mech also was such level..... so i will not take that seriously i just make of investment based on fundamental and future growth on both side it is very expensive.... but thank u for updating the GMP regularly..... I only hope this GMP is real based on demand then operator hand if this is operator hand it could be trap....
601.14. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 9:19:07 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
one way to judge is this premium real or operator hand is to see if the premium falls on issue nearing day and closing day.... power mech was 150 plus came down 40 by the time of listing monte was again 150 came down to 10 on close to listing......
600. Rajeev Kumar Singh |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 12:57:35 PM
A Reuters report on negative rate cut by ECB n BOJ. Eye opener for all those who think it as a good move. How can these people be so naive. Pl read all of u for knowledge sake.
600.3. Ou Ai |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 6:15:12 PM
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There is also a view that negative interest rate in Japan and lower rates in Europe will push the hedge funds to invest in emerging markets like South Asia including India. All the China related news emanates from western media and need to be taken with pinch of salt. China is rebalancing it''s economy. There is no deflation . GDP at 6.7% growth adds up one India GDP every year . Imagine the effect of India doubling its GDP every year ! Even earlier if 40% was exports, 60% was used in domestic consumption. China is going to collapse as the western media is makes it out to be. No one agency including the big names predicted China could grow continuously 24 years at above 8% and several years, above double digit many years. Similarly even this is not going to be crash landing. US also bounced in 2008 with in 18 months.
I am positive that will go down for short period, it will again recoup and move further up. It is a chance to pick up the gems in market at low process and even those form IPO that we did not apply due to high valuations.
600.4. Rajeev Kumar Singh |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 7:51:20 PM
Good analysis Ou Ai. But areas of concern remain. In last 10 years Chinese debt has increased 200%. There is excess inventory in manufacturing, housing and infra. Chinese labour is getting costly. Yuan has to be devalued to increase exports leading to currency war, etc etc. The economy was based on manufacturing but now rebalancing is taking place towards internal consumption. However, the wages are still low and cost of living in China very high. People can not afford to buy houses, they live in cramped rented accommodation and so on. Chinese transition is not going to be a smooth one. Its going to get rough n dirty. However, I m sure its not going to collapse. But at least it will take 2/3 years for its economy to stabilise.
599. CLD |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 12:53:04 PM
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I am not on this portal throughout day.

Please reply my post at 4062
599.1. starripo |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 3:33:38 PM
Chem cho , you cant apply 5 asba application from hdfc bank,maximum 2 application of ac holder only differently....other 3 are not account holder,you may join 2 more name in hdfc account then 4 asba can be applied....
598. Rajeev Kumar Singh |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 12:02:19 PM
Brothers, GMP doesn''t guarantee what it says. GMP is brokers play. PCL can still list in positive. All the best. Keep fingers crossed.
597. SAHIL GUPTA |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 11:47:42 AM
Don''t get induced by negative comments.
Premium is Rs.14-15 and listing is above Rs.200/- for sure.
Same negativity was spread in Narayana Hospitals IPO and see the result.
596. Santosh. |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 11:45:32 AM
Chem cho , Septa ....
Precision Camshafts Ltd IPO gives listing gain or not . what u think now.
595. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 10:37:32 AM
Few retailers want to sell shares at Rs. 3 Discount i.e. at Rs.183 per shares.
595.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 5:09:30 PM
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Yes, even at my end ... PCL GMP is -ve
594. Rajeev Kumar Singh |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 10:32:36 AM
Bhaiyon badhai. PCL GMP now less than 0. -ve 2 to be precise. In Mumbai.
594.1. starripo |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 11:21:43 AM
You seems most relieve now....when i told that discount of rs -8/10 , you laughed....
594.2. Rajeev Kumar Singh |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 11:30:00 AM
Ok u win.:-)
593. Koul |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 10:17:39 AM
How much time will it take for the money to be refunded if I don''t get the allotment in this new e-IPO process?
593.1. IPO fans ahmedabad |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 10:30:29 AM
As soon as the allotment comes ur block will b removed
593.2. Koul |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 10:32:17 AM
When is the expected date of allotment?
592. pranam |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 10:10:20 AM
Asaba ka payment block hua he ye kese pata chalega ?
592.1. Koul |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 10:18:09 AM
It should show the money as liened in your banking portal
591. IPO fans ahmedabad |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 9:39:39 AM
As correctly said by Davd, There are chances that the IPO of precision will list between Rs 14- 22. The fundamentals of the company are good and the company also had good customer base to sustain the returns.

My prediction state that it will list at Rs. 210. As the application of grey market are purchased at Rs400 and subscription is almost 2 times.. So 2:1 allotment will be there and that leads to premium at Rs .10 -11.
590. rjkanna |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 8:07:24 AM
hopefully will list with premium atleast 15 rs
589. CLD |   Link |  Bookmark | January 30, 2016 10:15:35 PM
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Can someone clarify following:

I wanted to apply in PCL but could not due to following:
I have 5 DP accounts in my family with A,B,C,D & E individual DPs PANs.

I am "A"

Previously, I was applying 5 applications through cheque in the names of
1. "A" from PNB saving bank A/C held jointly between A & D
2. "B" from PNB saving bank A/C held jointly between B & A
3. "C" from PNB saving bank A/C held jointly between C & A
4. "D" from HDFC saving bank A/C held jointly between D & A
5. "E" from Yes Bank A/C in which I am Karta of HUF

In PCL, only HDFC bank out of above banks was accepting ASBA applications

I want to know could I apply all my applications through HDFC bank with the signatures of "D" or "A" (Operation mandate being either or survivor) in ASBA field although names of all members of my family are not in the SB A/C of HDFC.
Signature in main application will of course be that of the individual whose DP & PAN details will be given in the application.

Only those may please reply who have clear knowledge about it after understanding above data
589.5. CLD |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 12:43:01 PM
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Shoud I conclude

A) That, it is not necessary that the applicant to the issue should be the account holder of the bank from which the amount is blocked

B) That, the bank is not concerned about the applicant to the issue & his signature & will block the amount on the basis of authorisation by way of signature(s) of the account holder(s) in ASBA field.

Only those to reply who have done it in their own case
589.6. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | January 31, 2016 12:57:25 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
Yes as long signed by account holder ur bank should not have a issue. However the forms need to signed by Demat holder
588. dkpatel |   Link |  Bookmark | January 30, 2016 9:49:09 PM
Pcl listing above 220 ...the big game play like narayan hospital.....be positive
587. sameer kasliwal |   Link |  Bookmark | January 30, 2016 8:38:38 PM
PCL list 195 to 205.....just my view....
586. Arup |   Link |  Bookmark | January 30, 2016 8:15:51 PM (900+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Mp sir, pcl list must be rs200 if that day mkt + otherwise it will 152 to 165 for few trd se''son.if 7days trd in this range then more pain waited for us like ccd.