Polycab India Limited IPO Message Board (Page 21)

106 now lets assume 110 then 110*0.7222=79.5rs
so 538+80 =618 below this listing price will be loss for NII

It's for retail category.
Overall it will easily cross 50 times.

It's for retail category.
Overall it will easily cross 50 times.

Retail only
Over all much higher

True

Thank you so much kind Seniors for all the inputs.. :-)

Btw market are bound to re test 11550 levels in my opinion

And there are news about Videocon going to file Bankruptcy.

And loans are about 90,000 cr. rs

We all know after dhfl, ilfs, yes bank how much market panicked.. :-(

So polycab ipo ka bich bhi esa kuch a sakta ha kya.. :'-(

Companies with higher debt
Are risky
To clean&clear financial system
NCLT, NCLAT r important
Aj tak loan pe loan deta gya (old government )without checking actual position of company
In vdocon
Icici & chanda kochar are culprits

Bate old ya new gov ki nahi ha..

Ya sab NPAs hua ha, just because of Demonitization ( circulation of money rook dia poora ) aur il&fs toh gov. company ha after all ( so blame game na chale yaha )

Nirav modi na p.m modi ka picha khada hokar pic khichvae thi, country chodna ka kuchi dino pehla.. aur kingfisher airlines ko Jetairways ki tarha bakki banks na support nahi kara crises ma..

Jesa abhi jet airways bhi defaulted hogaya ha, par run karna ka lia aur 2-3k loan sanction hua ha.. ( so please don't play game of old gov. N new gov. Every party is chor in india )

Chalo ek simple sa example deta hu

Jio aya Airtel, Idea, Vodafone aur dusra telecom companies ka dhandha khatam kar dia

Jio ka ata he sab kuch cheap rate ma milna lag gaya, aur iska chalta dusri companies ko margin ghata deni padhi

Ab apna india ma logg itna khush ho rahe ha ka 400 rs ma net + free calls

Par ya nahi samaj rahe ha ka ya jo telecom companies competition ma khadi nahi reh pa rahe, unka books ma 1 lacs crore++ ka loans ha ( majorly gov. banks ka )

Agar inka diwalia nikla toh 1 lacs crore++ ka bojj apna kar he ana ha ( tax payer money )

Ek bajju toh apna khush ha ka jio aya sab kuch de gaya..

Par ya nahi samaj rahe ka dusri companies survive bhi nahi kar pa rahe ( agar woh defaults ma gae toh 1 lacs crore++ ka dent aur ayega NPAs ka )

Thank you

Dear pradeep u r right anyway
No point to argue
Many listed peers in electronics
Goods
Everyone faced demone...
Then why videocon?
What do you know about videocon?
I m a dealer in this company since 1998
From 2009 quality & services of vdocon declined
Failed in mobile&telecom business
Bought oil fields in middle east
W/o any experience and suffered heavy losses
Cheat customers in D2h business

All above reasons, has nothing to do with demon...
For jet airways
Big games played by some of leading business house to takeover

Yes true that Videocon na bohot paisa barbad kia ha..

Aur demon sirf videocon ka lia nahi kaha tha.. overall industry ma and SME & MSME ma kitna NPAs agae ha, woh bhi toh dekhiya..

Liquidity cruch kyu aya DHFL ma ?

Ya IL&FS ma ??

Il&fs and dhfl toh esa ha jo paisa aage deta ha, toh aage sa paisa nahi aya toh ya logg dubna ka asar ma ayee na

Ear ko right hand sa pakdo ya left sa, bate ek he ha..

Aur videocon na toh poora paisa Hazam kar dia ha..

Economy ki sabse badi bate..

" Paisa natural chiz nahi ha.. 90,000 cr loan ka reference ma keh raha hu.. Paisa sirf hath badal ta ha, par paisa na he badh ta ha na he ghaat ta ha, articficial ha.. kisi ka bhi hath ma khel leva "

Politicians ka kaam kya hota ha, esa companies ma loan sanction karvao gov. banks sa, aur cash karlo ya company ka books ma sa paisa bahar nikal lo.

Dhood ki dhuli vi dono ma sa koi bhi government nahi ha.

Agar itni he saaf hoti current party

Toh raato raat RBI sa reserve ka paisa maang na ki nobat nahi ajati, aur fir Apna Governor nahi change hojata, aur na he koi Arts ka background wala RBI ka governer banta, aur ata he central gov. ka framework / policies ko ha kar deta, ka jaao le lo paisa reserve ma sa.. :-)

I hope you got what i wanna say..

And many others too can understand.. :-)

I understand ur points completly
Now 1 by 1
Money changes hands,,
Right thats why demon.. happened
Ton of rs. Locked in cupboards of neta, black marketors, business men and many more
After demo.. it came to system
IT returns filings rising 3x
Many other benefits which we will discuss later
RBI money,,
Rbi has paid dividand not gifted to government
RBI GOVERNOR
no written qualification in constitution and policies are framed by MPC not by gov. Only
Now NPA problems
2- ways to reduce it
1-give more money to repay earlier debts(w/o knowing why not repaying)
2-take certain steps to collect loans(IBC, NCLT)
let's say
If i took home loan and denying repayment, bank will declare my loan as NPA and sell my house
But in corporate level,, banks should chk if infusion of more funds can recovered company out of debts?
Only Banks who decides it(not political parties )but earlier banks were playing in hands of government..
If kingfisher vdocon jet Rcom will be given more money should thay be out of bankruptcy?
Ans is NO
so what else banks can do other then apply IBC,NCLT?
DHFL &IIFL are individual cases
Not to be clubbed with government policies

IL&FS not IIFL
sorry

Sir Ji if ITR 3x badh gae ha toh Direct Tax Income kyu nahi badh rahe itni .

2015 ma Direct Tax Income jo 7-7.5 lakh crore rs. thi ( india ma Direct tax income every year 10-20% sa badh ti ha, picha decade ka trend ha )

2018 ma sirf 10 lakh crore he kyu hui ??

( Rough Figure / Calculation )
I.e 2016 = 7.5 lakh + 10% = 8.25 lakh crore
2017 = 8.25 lakh + 10% = 9.075 lakh crore
2018 = 9.075 + 10% = 9.9825 lakh crore

Ab itna sab toh sab ko ata ha " Power of Compounding / 8th Wonder of World "

Mujha toh ya gov. ka har ek data pa doubt ha..

Anyways aapko aur mujha toh IPO ka listing gain sa matlab ha, ya sab ko dekhna dusro ka kaam ha, par under qualififers / achivers bhare padhe ha politicial parties ma..

And ya RBI ka regarded " https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/india/1553251/indias-central-bank-finally-toes-the-line-pays-4-billion-advance-to-government/amp/ "

Jo dividend RBI august ma deti ha central gov. ko, woh Feb. ma he de dia..

Why ??

BJP bhi CHOR ha, Congress bhi CHOR ha, are sab parties chor ha, aap aapka kaam karva na jaao na Gov. departments ma.. :-D

Jinka lia apna debate karta ha, unko apni batto sa 0.00001% bhi farak nahi padh jaana waala.. :-)

Forget
And think about this ipo
Its and endless argument which never concluded

Hanji.. :-)

Sab ka views alag hota ha..

Btw if market weekly 11700++ close nahi hua

Toh ane wala din ma 11200/300 dikha sakta ha..

Not good for IPOs

On the way to cross overall 50 times subscription.