All discussions and debates are useless and hypothetical, unless price band is OFFICIALLY announced. It happened in icici pru., discussions were going on the basis of 275 issue price, & what issue price turned out to be. Similiar fate is forseen in pnbhf. Without price band .. compare with what? Rumours can also be a ploy by rivals..
These details are dealt at highest level till the last moment and never known to employees so much in advance.Merchant bankers fo also play a role in working out the price band
PNB Housing with benefit a lot with low interest market condition this will improve it NIMs in big way. Also change in RBI norms with funding norms and having a Big Bank as its parent will also be helpful. If it comes at 425 then it is screaming buy compare to it peers also next 5 to 10 years sector will see big growth.
This will be good IPO to apply and also buy on listing
12.1. Nidhike| Link| Bookmark|
October 12, 2016 12:32:30 AM
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Atleast u agree with me on this a screaming buy @425 :) But million dollar question will merchant bankers n issuer obliged to do issue @425????
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October 12, 2016 12:43:34 AM
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Agrree with ur first part that declining rate will be improving NIM but disagree on the parent part ,a BIG BANK which is itself a liability rather than a asset. If pnb was not a promoter then the valuation would have been much much higher than what It could fetch now considering its return ratio, quality of asset n growth.
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October 12, 2016 11:12:24 AM
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having a big bank as parents helps in cross marketing. SO agree to disagree IMO PNB as a parent is more advantage then disadvantage
If employee''s quota is 10%, then net issue size will be 2250 crs, assuming 425 price, retail category can have around 5,29,000 lots, chances of 50% allotement in retail.
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October 11, 2016 3:39:27 PM
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@issue price 425 Total share outstanding would be 18.57 cr NAV post issue 247 P/BV 1.72 Expected EPS for FY 17-18 =>35 1yr Forward PE 12 No extra concern over NPA Screaming Buy
NAV March''14 => 142.20 NAV March''15 => 152.03 NAV March''16 => 168.96
Promoters are:
51% held by PNB = 64,730,700 Equity Shares (Average cost of acquisition is Rs.71.19) 49% held by DEL = 62,192,300 Equity Shares (Average cost of acquisition is Rs.113.60) Total 126,923,000 Equity Shares outstanding prior to the Issue
DEL = Destimoney Enterprises Limited (affiliate of the Carlyle Group)
(Note: Options Granted as on April 22, 2016 – 38,07,690 @338/-)
Valuation: LIC Housing Finance & Indiabulls Housing Finance are currently @3.25x of P/BVPS PNB Housing Finance @2.5x of P/BVPS = Rs.425/-
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October 11, 2016 9:48:14 AM
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Retail Discount to the Issue Price may be offered to the Retail Individual Investors and the Eligible Employees bidding in the Employee Reservation Portion.
Great job... i wanted to thank you for your recco on Advance enzyme that its a good business model stock and it will give good returns...so even after i had not been alloted Adv Enz, i purchased it (after it listed from 896 issue price to 1180 ) @ 1185..it gave great returns and trading at 1800...Unfortunately i sold it @ 1700 to compensate for ICICI...looking to re enter.. Nevermind the haters, Thanks and keep giving useful info as it helps so many people earn decent money .
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October 11, 2016 7:28:05 AM
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THOSE who have missed the bus of LIC housing finance should apply in this IPO FOR long term bet irrespective of the IPO price , 50 % smaller than icici pru life , hence do not worry till the BSE hold till 28000 A must in portfolio
NOTE If the IPO price is at higher side listing gains will be limited since link time is the REGISTER TO THE IPO you will not loose money