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380. hbastawala |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 12:22:12 PM
thanks eagle eye..!! is PNB to be subscribed..???
380.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 12:57:07 PM
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is PNB to be subscribed..???

The most appropriate persons to respond to your question are ... the 2 acclaimed analysts of this forum ... Nidhike Sir & Septa Sir.
380.2. MA |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 5:09:55 PM
Dear Eagleye,

still we want to know your view on application. As you have already provided your view that you are applying, but based on the position of today, what you suggest ?

your opinion matters.
379. hbastawala |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 12:18:53 PM
can any body explain me what is GMP..? & is PNB to be subscribed..?
379.2. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 12:21:54 PM
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and 2nd your question ...

is PNB to be subscribed..?

The best persons to advise you for that are ... the 2 acclaimed analysts of this forum ... Nidhike Sir & Septa Sir.
379.3. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 12:32:27 PM
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The most appropriate persons to advise you for that are ... the 2 acclaimed analysts of this forum ... Nidhike Sir & Septa Sir.
378. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 12:16:12 PM
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PNB Hsg Fin Ltd.

Day 2 at 12:15 PM

QIB*: 0.36X (*Excluding Anchor)
NII : 0.09X
Ret : 0.34X
Emp : 0.03X
Total : 0.29X
Applns : 166,500 (approx)
377. AjayArora |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 10:56:42 AM
This is against the common feel and comments here and mainly my analysis. The company has a book value of around 300+ and is priced at P/BV of 2.5 at 775. Finance companies are never valued against PE and P/BV is better comparison. Compare this with Can home finance, current P/BV is 5.5. Gruh finance is 14.4, HDFC is 4.1 (though it is not pure home finance), Indiabull housing is 3.41 and LIC housing is 3.24. The management is competent and their last 5 year result is better than the industry. The industry PE is 27. With all valuations the issue has atleast 25% upside potential and a fair value of anywhere between 1000-1500. You should be able to get this counter at 1200+ in a years time. I am not sure any listing potential which may depend on the market variance but this should not disappoint in a long term.
377.1. Pandit Ji |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 12:29:57 PM
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Good info
376. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 10:50:59 AM
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PNB GMP 53-54
376.1. anand thakkar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 7:29:21 PM
Would u tell me GMP of varun beverages??
375. Anil vanparia |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 10:45:10 AM
I respect &follow egeleye''s advice for ipo
374. Mr. Reliable |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 10:28:25 AM
I think in retail category the issue will subscribe around 1.2 to 1.5 times only.
373. Madar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 10:25:58 AM
Apply both
PNB and VBL
IN WORST SCANARIO ONE WILL LIST AT DISCONT AND ONE AT PROFIT. SO NO LOSS.
IN MEDIUM CASE ONE AT PAR AND ONE AT PROFIT SO ONLY PROFIT
IN BEST CASE ONE AT PROFIT AND ONE AT PROFIT SO ONLY PROFIT
373.1. MarketObserver |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 11:36:21 AM
What if I dont get any allotment in PNB and get allogment in Varun and Varun opens at very discunt :( :( :(

Totally wrong calculation bro
372. OMNAMHSHIVAY |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 10:15:24 AM
PAT AROUND 3500 CR LAST YEAR
IT IS A HOUSING FINANCE COMPANY
FUNDAMENTALS LOOKS GOOD
APPLY...
371. Mech |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 10:05:07 AM
Can any one tell me which is better way to increase chances of getting allotted? Applying full quota (2 Lakhs worth of lots) ? or around half quota?...I am asking because I didn''t get allocation many times when I applied full quota but allotted most of the times when I applied around half quota.
371.2. Mech |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 11:01:35 AM
Thank you for the information. I have been applying many IPOs but didn''t know many facts listed in those FAQs answers. Great info :)
371.3. Pokemongo |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 5:46:57 PM
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Generally if it is subscribed by less than 3 times in retail investor category chances of you getting the lot are more if you apply only 1 lot against multiple lots. Same was case with Endurance.
370. AMRISHIPO |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 9:20:13 AM
ISSUE P RICE FIXED AT 28000 BSE SENSEX

SENSEX TODAY IS BELOW AT 27900

CAUTON IN LISTING IF IT REMAINS BELOW 28000
369. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 9:11:32 AM
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PNB Housing Finance IPO

GMP 57 - 58
368. Bullish |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 8:16:57 AM
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Avoid don''t subscribe
368.1. arun kumar sharma |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 9:30:19 AM
Your earlier positive recommendation proved fake
Who can believe your negative comments
367. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 7:59:03 AM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
IMO PNB is safe bet if u look at it balance sheet will give 10% listing pop at least. so 775+80 = 865 to 900 will be the listing price give the bull run seen in HFC however since it is big issue so liquidity will not be problem for demand from Fiis and Diis but if 30 times was the demand for anchor book then we can expect bumper listing. So all should put minimum lot application i have already put 7 application with minmum lot kept one application pending for HNI if the demand is less then 15 i will put an HNI application also
367.5. rvr |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 10:26:07 AM
Mr Mech . Apply one lot from one demat account that is called minimum
367.6. dev rai |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 4:37:56 PM
*****775+80=855
366. Nidhike |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 2:31:31 AM (300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Sebi warns against overpricing the issue

http://wap.business-standard.com/article/markets/regulator-warns-ibanks-against-overpricing-share-issues-116102500985_1.html
366.1. goutam |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 7:55:09 AM
valuable information....thanks
365. Dr Imran Thakur |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 12:18:09 AM
any want to buy applications of pnb im in mumbai
364. Silapathar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2016 11:21:40 PM
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This one has all the ingredients to become another ICICI PRU. Avoid.
363. Darshit |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2016 9:54:51 PM
What does 0.2 times means ? Can someone please explain by taking some scenario ?

Thanks in advance.
363.1. Mann Ki Baat |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2016 10:52:14 PM
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0.20 times means 20%
362. ARATII |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2016 8:51:24 PM
QIB HAS subscribed on first day and HNI have also applied

usually subscribtion is nil on first day

so 100% apply

they are not fools

if you do not apply you are fool
362.1. Silapathar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2016 11:17:47 PM
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Do not make sentimental / emotional /illogical statements. QIB also subscribed multiple times to ICICI PRU. No one can make money in the market just by following someone.
362.2. ARATII |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2016 5:31:05 AM
YOU LACK Experience.
in market
you are quite new to this forum
361. Sp jpr |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2016 7:26:36 PM
Totally confused this time , whether to apply or avoid.
361.1. SIPs |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2016 9:38:28 PM
for listing gains dont apply. There may not be listing gains.
for keeping as portfolio stock - apply and keep holding for couple of years.