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600. ipoexpert |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:30:09 AM
DEAR FRIENDS,
YOU YOURSELF CAN SEE THIS FACT THAT THE EMPLOYEES OF PNBHFL ARE THEMSELVES NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PRICE OF IPO EVEN WHEN THEY ARE GETTING ALLOTMENT AT RS.75 DISCOUNT. THE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT EVEN CONVINCED WITH THE IPO PRICE OF 700/-. THE EMPLOYEE QUOTA IS UNDERSUBSCRIBED. IF SUPPOSE WE WOULD BELIEVE ON THIS FIGURE OF 80/- GMP PREMIUM, THEN THE EMPLOYEES WOULD HAVE SOLD THE SHARES AT 775+80=855/- AND COSTING FOR THEM WOULD HAVE BEEN 700/- HENCE THEY WOULD HAVE MADE A PROFIT OF 155*19=2500/- APPROX ON EVERY APPLICATION OF 14725/- BUT THEY ARE NOT CONVINCED WITH THE COMPANY, THEY ARE WORKING IN. HENCE, NOW IT''S UR CHOICE WHETHER U WILL GET LISTING GAINS OR SUFFER LOSS ON LISTING.
600.5. Tulsiyan |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 1:38:41 AM
Here is the answer of confusion raised today:-
1) Total employees of PNB is around 750( who are eligible for allotment)
2) Investment cap / emp is 2 lacs
3) Employee in higher cadre /middle management level:- around 40%
4) Lower cadre /average cadre around 60%
so 3rd cat employee subscribed in full as per their investment capacity and and rest 60% employees in 1/2 , 1/3. 1/4 of max investment as per their capacity

so it is little lower subscribed...
600.6. Prats |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 1:50:13 AM
Tulsiyan ji, how dare you question this fabulous analysis by ipo expert.
599. dipak |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:25:47 AM
Hello..cn anyone tell me application wise means what?????
598. Rajas |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:22:42 AM
Dear irrational...
Thanks for replying.
But 82,95,07,434 shares are not applied @ 775 .they applied at "price bid" means it is less than 175 and another 1,64,57,496 @Cut off price. So definitely final price will be less than 175 as I think
597. ANKUSH PATEL |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:17:54 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1600+ Posts, 5800+ Likes)
allotment chance for all retailers 100%
596. UnderRighter |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:14:45 AM
I understand GMP is Grey Market Premium, but what is Kostak? and what does Kostak of 1300 mean?
596.1. AY |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 4:55:23 PM
A Kostak rate is the premium one gets by selling his/her IPO application (in an off market transaction) to someone else before allotment or listing of the issue.

Rs. 1300 kostak means that you can sell your application at Rs. 1300/-.
595. VINOD JAIN NICKY |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:10:48 AM
DEAR MODULATOR , SINCE LONG,EVERY TIME YOUR SHARES ALLOCATION/ SHARES OFFERED/ SHARES RESERVED FIGURES ARE WRONG. IT SHOULD BE QIB 50%+HNI 15%+ RETAIL 35%. BUT YOUR ALLOCATION IS SOMETHING LIKE QIB+ HNI=RETAIL. IN MY OPINION IT IS WRONG. I MAY BE ON WRONG CALCULATION. PLEASE CLARIFY. MISS EAGLEYE, YOU PLEASE ALSO LOOK INTO THE MATTER FOR OUR INFOMATION AND KNOWLEDGE. THANKS-VINOD JAIN.
595.2. pcn |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:21:46 AM
Dear Mr.Jain,

Figures are correct, you can verify from NSE website Link
595.3. pcn |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:22:43 AM
https://www.nseindia.com/products/content/equities/ipos/ipo_current_pnbhf.htm
594. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:03:22 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
PNB Hsg Fin Ltd.

Day 3 at 10:45PM

QIB*: 38.59X (*Excluding Anchor)
NII : 89.06X
Ret : 1.40X
Emp : 0.46X
Total : 30.53X
Applns : 767,200 (approx)

Applicationwise = 1.08X ... or .. 17.55 / 19
593. red bull |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:52:15 PM
Dear Eagleye, Septa and all other distinguished members,
I feel privileged to learn from you all in each and every IPO. If you folks were unavailable, it would have been pretty difficult to take an informed decision. Applied for 114 shares and of course hoping for the best.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers!
592. Virat Karani |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:38:32 PM
My inner felling says that this IPO will not give money as expected.

It need at least 50 Lacs surplus buyer on listing day to open on positive price because firm allotement IPOs have lot of selling pressure except of company management did some effort to make listing good (example LTTS)
592.1. Arup jamshed |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 7:27:03 AM (900+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
50lacs buyer? how many buy by each buyers?19 or 100
60rs plus listing is 80%confarm
591. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:36:34 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Refer my earlier posting ....



Eagleye Oct 25, 2016 10:21:03 AM IST
PNB Housing Finance Ltd IPO

Expectations by Market Pundits ...

Price on 27th October >>> Rs.775/- (Issue Price)
Price on 07th November >>>Rs.850 – 900/- (Listing Date)

Price by Christmas >>> Target Rs.1000/-
Price by Holi >>> Target Rs.1250/-

SUNO SABKI ... KARO MANN KI
591.1. NarendraRajkot |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:44:35 AM
Par ye to bataiye ki Holi kab hogi? As like endurance or late?
591.2. Arup jamshed |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 8:46:32 AM (900+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Mam please share your view about varun
590. Anish |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:28:39 PM
To Admin , Eagle Eye Madam, Septa Sir and all the learned members of the Group.

I want to thank all of you for great service that you are providing to the investor community of India. Financial Literacy is small in India but people in the website are doing great job in giving right knowledge about financial markets esp IPO Markets.

Its indeed pleasure to be part of Chittorgarh community with experts like Eagle Eye , Septa and other knowledgeable members of the group.

Wish you all sucess to chittorgarh team:)
589. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:23:59 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
PNBHF IPO

GMP 75-77
Kostak 1300
589.2. M. K. Agarwal |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:39:28 PM
I am new here. Please tell me the meaning of GMP and what happen if it comes low or high please.
589.3. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:57:59 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
GMP = Grey Market Premium
588. IPO LEARNER |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:19:33 PM
Thanks Eagle Eye for your comments on PNB HOUSING FINANCE LTD. It''s our privilege to have your presence at times of IPO. your comments really help common man to invest in IPO.
587. Ipo tracker |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:18:38 PM (500+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Under-subscription, if any, in the Employee Reservation Portion will be added back to the Net Issue.
So as of now, 54% of 2,50,000 (emp quota) shares =1,35,000 remains unsubscribed, of which 35% ie 47,250 shares which is equal to nearly 2486 lots will spillover to retail category.
Further, any technical rejection in Emp quota will increase the above figure.
586. Stock tiger |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:13:32 PM
What is the prem of pnb and varun
585. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:09:37 PM
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585.1. Futurze Avenue |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:12:41 PM
No issues.. Thanks and keep sharing
585.2. GreeDisGood |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:43:11 AM
Hats off to you Mam,
Once again you have been bang on on predicting the number of times of subscriptions.
Keep up the good work, we are indebted to you.
Lot of respect to you, and wish you and your family a very happy and prosperous Diwali!!!
584. Paresh modi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 10:53:13 PM
Through which banks i can do five applications online other than sbi?
583. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 10:51:30 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
PNB Hsg Fin Ltd.

Day 3 at 9:40PM

QIB*: 38.59X (*Excluding Anchor)
NII : 89.06X
Ret : 1.40X
Emp : 0.46X
Total : 30.53X
Applns : 763,000 (approx)
583.4. Rajas |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:02:23 AM
Dear eagleye...
Pls reply my post 177
As per my calculation the final price which the company will decide should be less than 775. pls.. reply
583.5. Rajas |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2016 12:10:45 AM
Dear eagleye..
Pls read my post 576 instead of 177 n please reply
582. D. Nath |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 10:37:25 PM
What is the tentative date of allotment and listing of PNB Housing finance?
582.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 10:59:14 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 22000+ Likes)
Why are you asking for tentative date?

Here is the FINAL Date of Listing ... 07th November 2016
581. Paresh modi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 10:24:55 PM
i have applied 10 application of pnb housing of my family members name. Will i get 19 share in each application?
581.1. sujee |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2016 11:01:35 PM
Sabko milega