Plaza Wires Limited IPO Message Board (Page 15)

Wildcraft India to File for a 1200 cr IPO
No specific Timeline
But in later stages

Let say bhni is, 1 out of 5 will get allotment
1. Then in this case of 1 application at 120 lots, it will not be even considered in lottery
2. If there are 10 app, then 2 people will get allotment.
So increasing lots only makes sense if there are atleast that much application (= bhni subscription) present at that number of lots.
Hope this explains.

Thanks @UjwalG 

For some IPO's I have seen the ratio was 1:25 in B-Hni but 14 applications were also considered for allotment in bhni for higher lots

How the eligible application count is calculated for higher lots, if you can explain.

Thanks in advance

​@Earthking Ji,
we will discuss past IPOs and secondary market for learning purpose and exchange views and knowledge:)

My heart is saying that 2 IPO's to hit soon

Maybe Prorean E-gov tech is one of them

senior members @newgen consultancy @Jetha Lal Exibcash ipo can come in this months or not possiblity or next months and also shares eligible shareholders quota ipo
best wish
thanks adv

Atleast for next 2 months
Ebixcash ipo is not possible

It needs to file Addendum-2 or Corrigenum-1
It will take 15 days

But Very honestly big big issues regarding EBIXCASH IPO in Singapore and USA

Can expect a big delay

​@Jetha Lal  Sir pls reply jab bhi aap free ho

​@Sumitv Ji,
All information i post here are from RHP comprehended as per my understanding, knowledge and experience.
If you will read RHP then you will understand everything.

Same thought.
Itna bore ho raha tha aaj hi, ki maine plaza me apply kar diya bina kisi reason. 😆

@MVP ji, lol. Indeed, this is the very reason why many retailers have opted for Plaza, as they may not be sure how to effectively manage their parked funds.

What to do from tomorrow ?🤔

If any old members ( Who engaged in applying IPOs from last 10-12 years) are free then they can share their experience like

>>Pehle kese application ki jati thi
>> Monthly kitne IPOs aate the >> Allotment kese and kitne days me ho jata tha
>> Subscription kitna rehta tha.
.
.

I request that members(like @diwan kapoor  And many more)to share their experience if time permits 🙏

I hope many CG members are eagerly waiting for this (atleast me)

@IPO MIL JA.. I will definitely share my experience of old days IPO market conditions in detail.. as earliest as the time permit me.. till than wait.. Dear
And whenever there is no business in ipo market.. try to explore good shares in secondary market.. For Example in the peak of ipo market I bought medanta @680 around 15 days ago.. Today it was trading around 740..
I also bought VBL @810 in last month & exited at 915 just yesterday.. so keep watching & studing the fundamentally strong companies.. do study of the market more & more.. One day it will reward you.. It is my experience.. do not take it like a advice..
In the low ipo activity period.. I engaged myself more in secondary market activity.. I will share my more experience in freeness..
Thanks for remembering me.. Bandhu 🌻

​@diwan kapoor Sir,
Medanta is largest % of my portfolio which I accumulated during its IPO when it was undersubscribed and it's my favourite hospital stock along with Rainbow Children.

One person is common among VBL and Medanta is Ravi Jaipuria who is promoter of VBL & minority shareholder in Medanta.

He had stake in medanta pre-ipo which he increased further during IPO, it gave me a lot of confidence to subscribe Medanta IPO even it was undersubscribed.
I love Devyani foods as well and I recommended to all my friends when it was around 140-150 levels.

One can blindly trust Jaipuria ji business acumen.

Thanks 🙏

Thank you for your response @diwan kapoor Ji🙏

In current timeframe, applicants easily gets every information about IPOs and GMP, hence many retailers don't go deep into fundamentals and financials.
Many members of CG family also share their views on fundamentals and financials which will helps a lot.

One special thanks to @Admin @ Chittorgarh.com  also for such wonderful forum with full of wonderful people ❤️

Hence experienced member keep sharing your experience and old memories

@Jetha Lal..Sir your fundamental study & reaserch are extremely benificial for this forum members.. I rarely comment but read the comments of this forum members regularely.. Your fundamental study & @ Newgan speedy informations are really commendable.
I Exited from devyani food near around @ 175..i also sold my 3 Bhni medanta allotments in average of around 575 to 600..
But i think that this is a perfect candidate of four figure value in near future
Thanks for this sharing Bandhu 🙏

* just give me suggetions from seniors.

i have below stocks and your all views are welcomed .
1.Synoptics
2.Itcons
3.Cosmic crf
4.Chavda
5.chaman
6.Globla pet
7.Shelter pharma
8.usfb
9.Tata motors.

​@diwan kapoor sir, please explain how you select script from secondary market for short term

​@Jetha Lal respected sir, which among medanta or rainbow children will you suggest to buy @ cmp for a holding period of 2-3 years considering its yoy sales and profit growth?
thanks

​@pRACE A good question but need not worry. Enjoy the profits earned during September. The Cricket World Cup is already in progress. Why Share Market only? Enjoy Cricket for now.
India is going to play on Sunday, tomorrow.
Hope your problem is solved.
Keep watching CG, any day any time. So, not going to miss anything.

If got allotment much in ipos, then keep confidence on luck. And try luck also on Playing online rumy., teen Patti etc. Mario video gamm. Try luck on live ball by ball batting during w.c. cricket match also.

​@Jetha Lal #Off-topic Sir, the Israel situation, can it cause short term or long term effects to our markets?

​@IPO MIL JA As far as I remember about this Forum, one of the most senior members is @diwan kapoor from Delhi. I also remember the old days. Modern time members will not prefer those days. Every thing need to be done so quickly. IPO used to take 3 months for allotment. Listing, selling and payment more days to wait. We used to wait for big size envelop in Regd. Post. If it is big one means Share Certificate and if small than refund order. Share premium was not so common. Tata shares at Par. Now loss making companies at huge premium.
More details will be shared by Mr. diwan kapoor. We both are from Delhi. But now I am not in Delhi.
One thing I always try to understand, why investors wants every thing two be completed in two days after the closer of the issue.
Why IPO is open for subscription for three days. SMEs, the very smaller are open for more days.
It should also be reduced to one day only. All system to be improved. Have a nice time.
Good Night.

PKRAJ JI,
Thank you very much for giving us an opportunity to recollect the sweet n sour memories of the past and also for your kind views. Yes Sir, our joy knew no bounds those days on receiving the big size envelopes containing the share certificates. Sir, we have to accept the evolutionary changes over the passage of time. Now a days most of the people are becoming intolerant n impatient as they are unable to accept n digest the realities. They are not even ready to wait n hear to the end. OK. We have to accept the people as they are n things as they happen. Sir, once again I thank you very much from the bottom of my heart for providing me an opportunity to share my thoughts. God blesses you with all the best throughout.

​@PKRAJ 
Ji

Purani Yaad dast taza kar di
Jahaan tak yaad hai BATA [ ₹15] , Glaxo [ ₹15 ] , Asta zeneca [ ₹10/= Old name ASTRA IDL ]
25 Share lot 1/4 th Application Money 1 st call 2nd Call Final Call .

25 Shares ki lot face value ₹10 Application Money ₹62.25 Wah kya din thei. Post office khulte hi sidhe post office jaakar baith jaate thei Allotment ka lifafa aaya ki nahin.

​@PKRAJ Sir, @KAMMA SIVA RAMA KRISHNA Sir and @B.M.SURANA Sir thank you for sharing your experience 🙏 ❤️

आप सबकी बातें सुन के तो ऐसा लग रहा है कि हमे तो सब सोने की थाली में पिरसा हुआ मिला है।

Then to Now:
1. No or minimal GMP to Good GMP
2. 3 Months or more for allotment to 3 days or less
3. Physical monotones application process to easy and fast application through one click
4. Big or small size envelope se allotment ka pata lagana to Debit or unblock se allotment ka pata lagana

Fir bhi big size envelope ✉️ ka wait karna, imagine karna bhi bilkul alag hi lag raha he, kya feeling rehti hogi aap sabki tab

And one small question: kya tab bhi sirf listing gain ke liye apply karne vale investors the?

Once again thank you for sharing your memorable memories with us🙏

Dear Mr. B M Surana, you are absolutely right. Glaxo came at a premium of Rs.5/. FV 10 apiece. That was my first ever IPO allotment in 1982.

Dear KSRK, those were great days. Transfer of shares, bad delivery and odd lots.
In my past posts I have shared many things.

How many members in this Forum are 70+? If possible please share.
I am 70+. Running 72 years.

I really enjoy this forum having young, highly educated and wealthy members.
All the best to the members. Always have a healthy future.

**NOBODY CAN TOUCH THE WORDS,
BUT WORDS CAN TOUCH EVERYONE**

​@PKRAJ Ji, as you said you got your first allotment in 1982;

Happy to hear that itne experienced members hamari forum me he

You are also an eye witness of market panicness during ' Harshad Mehta Scam '
And rally of stock market before this.
Is any experience available which you want to share regarding it?

Some senior members have shared their memories in respect of old system of IPO's allotments. I am doing IPO investment since 1985. I did active participation in 1988-1993 , when there was flood of IPO's. Refunds/ allotment was completed in 70 days, whereas now T+3 days is in Vogue. Many refund orders were misplaced and never received. Then a new instrument was made available which was known as stockinvest which was issued by banks. Allotment was liberal and normally on face value. In the time of gulf war probably all allotments were confirmed and gave handsome returns to investors. But some fraudulent companies cheated investors and paper certificates are still there. Now there is a sea change in whole process and now process is very investors friendly, thanks to our regulators. One interesting things I wish to share that postman of the beat expected/ paid Rs. 10/ per big envelop as it was carrying share certificate and he was more keen on allotments than refund orders.

​@IPO mil jaa  With opening of Economy by Narasimharao/ Manmohan there was sudden bull rush but it was fuelled n escalated artificially by gr8 Harshad who simply worked on principal of " demand and supply" . I was member of two clubs on Sat/ Sun in Chandigarh and TIPS used to flow so accurately. Any news of Harshad' s visit to some factory would jack up price unnecessarily. Most of the members who followed the greed had left forever after big losses only those who followed Warren Buffett 's principals could survive and are there in market. The losses were such that hotels , houses and valuables were sold out ....BAD 😞 indeed for the overall market sentiments aftermath . Though I earned good profit but some paper shares never got revived and have become only papers.

Let me verify humbly accept the fact that though experienced, the knowledge what many of experts share in this forum is so valuable to keep us updated regularly which would not have been possible otherwise. I have been following this forum silently since 2000 , though working in MNC and greatly benefited with analysis by experts as well as new members too. Sincere thanks to Chittorgarh.com team as well as all the members ... keep it alive forever 💖

We have also witnessed the two major disastrous situations due to Harshad Mehta event and attack on twin towers on 11/09/2001. I have incurred heavy losses due to panic selling of most of my holdings on these two occasions. In fact, it took so much time to come out of that disastrous blow on my financial situation. Of course, one has to be prepared for the unforeseen circumstances. Then only you can lead a peaceful life. Crying, on repeatedly recollecting the past bitter experiences, is of no use and further damages the physical n mental health. Accept the reality and proceed accordingly. That’s how one has to get on. Oh! Have I bothered you with my post? If so, I may be pardoned. Thank you n all the best to all of you.

Thanks a lot seniors for sharing such wonderful memories and experiences:)
It's really exciting for youngsters to envision those past days and come to know about past things how it worked.
Kindly keep sharing such nostalgic experiences from the past 🙏🙏

@Siva ...no one is crying here I think this is wrong interpretation of experiences shared. The experienced are there cas they became " learned "from experience and constant upgradation only . Only strong willed person can stay in market and believe me all of us are . Why would I start buying shares on first crash in March 20 upon COVID lockdown, cas of learnings and finally gained heavily. Pls take all this in a very positive way .

@PKRAJ @B.M.SURANA.. @IPO MIL JA.. @pRace @KAMA SHIVA RAMA KRISHNA..
PKRAJ Sir & B M.SURANA JI.. You both are much more senior than me in share market..in the process of frequent visit of my friend's share Broker office in Delhi Stick Exchange in 1986-87..i became habitual of applying ipo's.. as on the entrance gate of stock exchange.. Many ipo form venders were site there & my friend collect these form from these vendors..one day my friend insist me to fill the ipo form.. so in this way..my journey of share marker was started.. My first ipo allotment was FINOLEX PIPE..
At that time there was --CCI (Controller of capital Issue) who control the pricing power of new listed companies.. & most of ipo's were came @at par value.. almost all companies have @10 Rs face value at that time..
Thank you very much you all for sharing your experience & best of luck to all of you for good health & wealth 🙏🙏

Rakcyt ji,
Let me, at the outset, express my sorry for my inability to present the matter in a better way. Thank you very much for your kind words n remarks. My English may be poor. I am neither an experienced one nor an intelligent one. I am a learner and will take note of your kind observations. God blesses you with all the best.

@Siva...pls don't have to say sorry as I always read your columns too and get good insight ....have many close friends and colleagues from South...now I add your name too . My love as well as respect to you 😍

One can read prospectus of already listed or coming to be list ipo it helps in building more business insight. I have started reading rhp of many recently listed companies.

Yaadon Ki Baraat...

Excuse me ! but let me also butt in.

My first two stocks were, Kalyani Sharp and Ruchi Soya (at par) which I received almost simultaneously. My immediate reaction was 'how to sell them?'.

One stock, Pharmasia, troubled us a lot as we didn't hear from the RTA for a long long time and would enquire with the broker (from whom we used to take the form). Then, one fine day we got the Share certificate.

Form se yaad aaya ki Tata Elexi ka form bhi milna na-mumkin tha.

Whenever the postman would hand over a big envelope to us, we would always give him some small tip. Nothing for the small envelope, of course!

I must mention two more stocks....

Herdillia Unimers : This one in particular took a very, very long time to show the result as to whether it was an allotment or a refund.
Every afternoon, from the balcony of my 6th floor house, I would look out for the postman who would be going from one building to another. I would wait and watch with bated breath when he would enter our building and wait for the bell to ring.....but alas! nothing would happen. This went on for MONTHS on end.

This also led to my suffering from anxiety disorder for which I had to take medications for nearly a year !!!

Michael Jackson Fashions : This was the only stock which came unannounced, that is, it came by ordinary post...I don't really remember whether it even got listed. I lost Rs 5000/- in that. (That time more than my one month's salary).

After which many allotments came, most of the company's don't even exist today. I sold, without any regret or remorse, most of those allotments @ 10/- for
50 paise or even 25 paise. Thinking that I can buy a day's vegetables with that.

But it all looks so funny now...spoiling health at the cost of just a few Rupees, etc. Since then lot of water has flown in Ganga and all those experiences have taught me good lessons in life, not only about the market but in general. I am grateful to the market for those invaluable teachings.

And yes....I did get the allotment of Herdillia Unimers.

World cup dekho

​@Old.Fox Very interesting and sad story. After knowing about the past ipo history I can say that this time is golden era for Ipo appliers.

Hahaha

​@Crow Allotment here would make you an eagle

​@ValueSeeker Which application is this sir?

IPO Premium

​@ValueSeeker Which applications allow us to apply in SH quota ( If available for particular IPO ) apart from Zerodha sir? 🙏

I think all major brokers and banks apps allow it.
In fact, those who don't allow will be quite less.

So applying through ASBA eliminates this problem @ValueSeeker  sir?