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Pipavav Shipyard Limited IPO Message Board (Page 9)

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137. Popcorn Investment |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 7:00:40 PM
Kya Investors ke pas paisa ka pade lega hei jo IPO me paise lagate hi jao return ke liye Long term sochete raho.
Bhiya itna hi pyar hai to secondary market se kharid lena .
136. IPO KING |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 5:40:49 PM
FRIENDS,
PLEASE SUBSCRIBE IN PIPAVAV SHIPYARD,
B'COZ THIS IS A GOOD IPO,
Q K,DIKHAVE PE MAT JAO APNI AQAL LAGAO,
THIS IPO LIST AFTER TRADE 65-75 EASILY.
SO FRIENDS,BE INVEST IN THIS GOOD IPO.................
135. ipo master |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 4:59:45 PM
I had applied 2 lots of Globus, and got ful allotment as rs 14000 debited from my account.
134. Ganesh smart in |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 4:52:16 PM
SP Tulsian has given this version at his website for subscribing to Pipavav IPO

The company has commenced its operations from 1st April 2009, with business of ship construction and repairs for a range of vessels of different sizes and types, including naval vessels and coast guard vessels as well as the fabrication and construction of offshore platforms, rigs, jackets and vessel for oil and gas companies. The company would be building assets, for the first time in the country, on modular concept, using its state of the art, 2 million sq. feet block making facilities, which would reduce building time considerably with saving in steel wastage by about 80%. Steel churning capacity for building offshore and warships is at 1,44,000 TPA, which is about 10 times bigger than the next largest shipyard in the country, being 14,000 TPA, of Cochin Shipyard. The facilities of the company are even capable to build super critical boilers, nuclear power equipments and is capable of handling multiple products such as Aircraft Carriers, Warship, FPSO, Rigs, Jack-ups, platforms, VLCC, and ULCC. It has capability to even dock 2 Naval Air Craft Carriers simultaneously, one each for building and one for repair.

The company has 2nd largest dock in the world, after Hyundai, with the company having 782 acres of land, of which 498 acres have been developed, with 662 meters in length and 65 meters in the width of dry dock, with waterfront length of 4.2 kms. As against this, Hyundai has 800 acres of land, at 7 locations, with length of 4.8 km. This has been confirmed by Hyundai by its letter of 03-06-09, comparing it with its latest and modern facilities in Ulsan at Korea. Thyssenkrupp Marine has called the shipyard of the company - “wow” and called its block making workshops and of shipyard with dry dock facilities, as best available in India, but comparable to western standards.

Presently, 85% of the country’s Defence needs are met from countries like Russia, France, Germany, UK and Italy, as world class facilities are not available, with Mazgaon Dock, Goa Shipyard and Kolkatta Dock, presently catering to Indian Navy and Ministry of Defence. Also, the company has largest dockyard infrastructure facilities between Singapore and Dubai, where about 16,000 ships pass trough annually and one of them can become an emergency candidate, of dry-docking. So, the company would be focusing on Navy, ONGC and global jobs, which has much higher margins, then the conventional ones. The company had seen visits of top officials and chiefs of Indian Navy, Mazgoan Dock, ONGC, BHEL, Indian Coast Guard and Naval Design who were highly impressed and satisfied with the infrastructure and facilities of the company.

Present equity of the company of Rs. 580 crores will rise to Rs. 666 crores, with its pre-issue net worth of Rs. 1,255 crores, with book value being placed at Rs. 21.63 as on 31-03-09. The total facilities and cost of the project is estimated at Rs. 2,995 crores, which is being financed by the term loan of Rs. 1,312 crores, present net worth of Rs. 1,260 crores and proposed IPO of Rs. 500 crores. This results in a debt equity ratio of 0:75:1 which can be considered quite reasonable and within the comfort levels. To replicate the similar facilities, it would take atleast 5 years, including obtaining all permissions, which would give a first mover advantage to the company.

Considering all these, we recommend subscribe to the issue, even at the upper band of Rs. 60 per share.


but what is the fate at listing he has not written.
133. Vish |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 4:09:34 PM
When Govt of India is so greedy and does not leave anything what so ever on the table... this is a private issue.. they are not here to make u rich but to become rich...

So think twice.. be money wise..
If an issuer fools us once, its bad on the part of issuer...
But if they fool us over and over again...
we deserve to be fooled...

132. J.K |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 2:27:54 PM
Fair prise rs 12.70 ,it is third grade ipo, people should lose all money.
131. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 2:05:58 PM
It is worth Rs.22, priced stiffly.

AVOID

Merchant Bankers should understand that even long-term investors expect listing gain
130. gajesh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 1:50:35 PM
Avoid it

after the listing we will buy at 3 month DMA
129. rama |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 1:17:22 PM
STAY AWAY FROM PAPAYA COMPANY
128. K.K.Natarajan |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 8:12:41 AM
Majority of the analysts are of the opinion that under the present circumstances, this issue is highly priced and need to be avoided. Retail investors have already burnt their fingers in a few IPOs. So it is better to stay away.
127. Neil |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 8:05:31 AM
hey even when the IPO a avoid many of the investors are flocking to buy them at high prem. If the issues do not get subs decently may be they might think of pricing it some what cheaper & leaving something on the table for investors. Till then happy investing for those out there who r waiting their or investing it thinking that their money will double on listing
126. hydrocracker |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 7:40:26 AM
hi all the market will be rather tepid in the coming days, moving sideways & doining nothing.
125. boyoka |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2009 6:41:35 AM
Very Well Said "Mr. IPO Analyst" .... i absolutely agree with you ....... these ppl wants us to pay us the money for the company who has started their commecial operations on 1st April 09 n then wait for god knows how many years to get returns
124. chino |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2009 10:40:11 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
ipo analyst ,you r absolutely right v must do some charity to this vallabh fellow,so that he can stop his nonsense business.
123. IPO Analyst |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2009 10:14:33 PM
All those who have very good money please help Vallabh Bansal by putting 60 Rs now and getting your money back in 2012 (only for 3 years) as Pipavav needs money now.

122. IPO Analyst |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2009 10:12:31 PM
Pipavav Shipyard...Same lead manager (Enam Securities) who were there for NHPC and Adani and we know the fate now.

Even for Pipavav they thought of 65-70 levels but seeing NHPC listing, reduced the price a bit to 55-60 but still it is very very expensive.

Vallabh Bansal always repeats that this IPO does good and well in Long Term...which means that all fools should pay the high price now and wait for 3 years to make money....

Please teach this Lead Manager a lesson and let us not subscribe...

EPS is very high and though in long run it will be good but still very expensive...Even in 2011, it may make an EPS of 4 to 5 and when other ship yard companies are quoting at 5 to 6 PE, and even if we give 10 PE to this then the price in 2011 will be 50 Rs which is still below the IPO price.

Cheers,
IPO Analyst
121. Girish Shah |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2009 9:56:47 PM
PipavavShipyard IPO is over price and once again the lead Manager is Enam Security (Vallabh Bhansali)who has exploited and made fool to small Investers in NHPC and Adani power IPO,So be carefull in Pipavav Shipyard IPo, oterwise you will loose your money.Donot trust on Enam Securiy.
120. chino |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2009 7:24:34 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
here r words from capital market...pipavav shipyard,with largest and modern facility ,wiLL be ideally placed to capitalise on uptrend in the ship building industries,...AS AND WHEN IT COMES...HOWEVER AS OF NOW IT LOOK LIKE THE UP TREND IN THE SHIP BUILDING WILL TAKE....LONG TIME TO COME.....so one can easily say pipavav shipyard is long term story.
119. pipavav another nhpc |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2009 7:18:42 PM
pl do not put your hard earned money in this ipo.
the Enam is becoming & proving bigger cheater in ipo market
this share will make people cried.
below rs 35 valuations.
strick avoid
118. Shareking |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2009 3:44:40 PM
Avoid it.. and save your hard earned money...

This share should be valued below 35/-