Paytm @ 2150/- around 131000 cr valuation (around $17-18B ) two year back when it raised fund it was valued at $16B In todays Digital / Ecommerce world it is valued around $19-20B.. (2340-2460)
Upper price band value company at 18 billion dollar as per your calculations but economic Times say it is at 20billion dollar. How it is please clarify
@BansalVijay approx 605930140 shares (Some other place saw 609669008) @2150/- it will come to 130275Cr - 131079cr and i took approx price of Dollar @ 75/-
Happy New year to all dear Friends. As per the latest reports the GMP of this Paytm is about Rs. 150 only. The issue price is 2150/ on which the rate of return is very very less and the lot size is also 5 only. Considering all these facts the return on 1 successful application is just Rs. 1000/ only. But the response of the anchor investors for Paytm is very encouraging. So one have to decide for go long term or short term . Please feel free to share your views on Paytm.
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November 5, 2021 11:22:25 PM
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English Please. People like me missed Guru''s advice and suggestion because of the language..
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November 5, 2021 11:58:13 PM
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@CSK...If you can read Hindi, you can actually understand few words in the message 😂. Diwali, parv, parivar, sukh, shanti, tarakki, shubecha, happy Diwali 😜 So she is wishing all happy Diwali 👍😄
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November 6, 2021 11:56:41 AM
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I am south Indian.. Typical chennaiwala.. Do i don''t know Hindi... I requested her for English since she communicates well in English also. No harm in requesting...
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November 6, 2021 12:15:58 PM
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No no even i don''t know Gujarati I just shared how i understand atleast the gist of messages if not full
Company Promoters: Paytm is a professionally managed company with no identifiable promoters.
Company Financials: Summary of financial Information (Restated Consolidated) Particulars For the year/period ended (Rs in million) 30-Jun-21 30-Jun-20 31-Mar-21 31-Mar-20 31-Mar-19 Total Assets 94,590 102,777 91,513 103,031 87,668 Total Revenue 9,480 6,494 31,868 35,407 35,797 Profit After Tax (3,819) (2,844) (17,010) (29,424) (42,309)
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November 6, 2021 11:27:18 AM
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This is professionally managed company only on paper and technically.
ટાટા સુપર એપ બનાવવા મથી રહ્યું છે જ્યારે Paytm સુપર એપ બનીનેજ જન્મ્યું છે એના પરથી એના ભવિષ્ય નો અંદાજ આવે છે.જીઓ પણ એવી જ કંઇક લ્હાય માં છે!
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November 5, 2021 12:12:36 AM
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Experts, why the company''s yearly revenue has been flat to falling in the preceeding 3 years. Can it be attributed to muted business as a result of lockdowns ?
What an anchor book! Muh me paani aa gaya. This is a definite green flag but other red flags such as low GMP, FV of Re 1, and a high asking price remain.
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November 4, 2021 4:18:11 PM
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Very Risky Bet. Capital Base is less than Rs. 61 crores, and even after the issue it may not exceed Rs. 70 Crores. If business clicks, returns would be mind boggling on account of low capital base and reasonably good net worth. Promoters deserves rich appreciations for the reason that they have not manipulated the issue price to low level, by issuance Bonus Shares in the ratios of 20:1, 10;1 etc., just before the issue, which was anticipated by many market experts. After Five years from now, this company will be either Big Hero or Big Zero. The returns, if any, in the short term, would be very marginal. I am holding 40 shares @2,425 as of now, and whether to apply or not would be decided during the issue period.
ભગવાન તમને નરેન્દ્ર મોદી જેવું નેતૃત્વ પ્રદાન કરે ✌️, મુકેશ અંબાણી જેવી સંપત્તિ પ્રદાન કરે 💸, હર્ષદ મેહતા જેવા market king બનાવે 📈, રતન ટાટા જેવા ઉદાર industrialist બનાવે ✈️, નીરજ ચોપરા જેવુ athlete body બનાવે 🏃, બાબા રામદેવ જેવું યોગ કરાવે 🤌, અમિતાભ બચ્ચન જેવા કલાકાર બનાવે🧔🏼 અને *સૌથી મહત્વ ની વાત* "બબીતા જેવી પાડોસી આપે" 💁🏻♀️💅🏻🤪
If you understand the business model of Paytm, you will know why it is called the Alibaba of India. Hope you all know jack ma and his business. There are dozens of companies which provides wallet service, upi payment, Online e-tailers, insurance, investment options, small financing etc. So technically 100s of competitors can be found. But name 1 company which offers all these under one umbrella.. none.. Such companies are going through cash burn phase and eventually they will turn big, provided they can cross sell their products. Speaking of cross selling, with so many facilities under one app, this will be the leader. GPay may have most of the upi transactions market share, but without cross selling, they earn 0 rs from it. This is where Paytm will stand out..
I bought 4 shares of Paytm in unlisted market at 26k a piece (later stock split happened so it''s 40 shares @ 2.6k now) I am still happy with the buying price because Paytm offers a long term arena which no one else can.
@aniruddha patil... Not just Amazon, Google and many other players will try to do the same thing. But that ain''t gonna affect Paytm a lot. Example, Paytm has financing service. In 5 years time, it will become Paytm bank when they apply for it as per rbi guidelines. Imagine the quantity of consumption data you can collect from consumers if you run a bank. I don''t think Google or Amazon would be involved in creating a bank.
Also, per se, cash burn is not a good option. Amazon may be strong but they ain''t gonna fight it all out. They will hold the market share they have and try to gain. Same with Paytm. since Paytm is an early entrant, it will have higher advantage. India is the world''s biggest market, with average age of the population below 30. there is huge space for everyone to grow for the next 60 years
It is highly priced ipo. Govt should stop this kind of players who are ready to rob the innocent(greedy) investors. I think the time has come that sebi or its experts panel must decide ipo price considering its balance sheet and profit & loss account of last three years. From our end, We should be ready to teach a lesson by not applying in its ipo.
Govt. has nothing to do in stock market. Sabi is a regulatory body who monitoring practices in market Priceband is decided by co. It''s their choice and valuation to be offered If you feel it''s expensive than let it go. Who find it profitable will apply "Apna maal kitne me bechna hai vo bechne vala tay karta hai,lena hai to lo varna chhod do" as simple as that Many Loss making co. Came with IPO recently and gave good returns to retailers