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410. Raghu |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 4:17:34 PM
OIL India IPO is fully priced at 1050/- People who are applying should apply at lower band else avoid this IPO.

One more fact is that, on the day of listing nobody is ready to buy and every body wants to sell at better price. If the valuations are not cheap who will buy on listing???

Holding long term by locking the money is not the solution. In that case better company shares can be bought at better price than buying in IPO.

Don't make the same mistake like Adani and NHPC. Let them learn to price it correctly before coming to IPO. Teach them a lesson. It is your hard earned money and they cannot take it for granted.
409. ashok saharia |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 4:05:17 PM
dear freinds, please avoid the ipo.priceband is more than worth
408. hitesh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 3:47:01 PM
apply not much risk

apply at 950 ..
407. RATAN |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 2:26:52 PM
every one says dont apply. but remeber-
"invest when others run away, run away when others invest".
406. Coachipo |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 2:03:54 PM
Hey 405 Jagdish Jalota,

dont be confused about applying for IPO.
Returns can be fixed if you apply and sell the application.
Returns to the tune of 20%.
Hence, apply for Oil India and sell the application.

Book Profits and beat the market.

CoachIPO
405. JAGDISH JALOTA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 1:11:32 PM
HEY IPO LOVERS ,
So What should we do ??? Still undecisive ???
404. VIKAS |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 12:17:17 PM
OIL is not going to give listing gain. If you are applying only for listing gain then please stay away. Leveraged application will face huge losses in OIL. NHPC is Renewable energy company. When crude oil will touch 200 doller and coal will touch all time high then we all come to know about NHPC valuation. Being a renewable energy source NHPC valuation is justified.
403. Coachipo |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 11:23:16 AM
Hey Guys,
Business Line says: Invest at Cut-Off

Oil India (OIL) may not be in the same league as Oil and Natural Gas Corporation (ONGC) in terms of its size of business, extent of reserves or scale of operations.

Where it scores over its big brother though is in its ability to show a growth trend in crude oil production and in adding to its reserves, more than what it produces every year.

OIL’s offer at Rs 950-1050, is at a fair valuation that compares favourably with its peers on most parameters. The offer band is at a price-earning multiple (PEM) of 9-10 times the 2008-09 earnings. ONGC has a valuation of 16. OIL also compares favourably on price-to-book value terms with a ratio of 2-2.2; ONGC’s is at 3.2.

Unlike other recent IPOs, OIL has left something on the table for investors. Investors can subscribe at the cut-off price and hold the stock for the medium-term.
Old oil

OIL owns and operates the first ever oil field discovered in India back in 1889 in Assam. All the oil that it now produces — 24.95 million barrels a year or about 68,000 barrels a day (10 per cent of domestic oil production) — comes from the Upper Assam oil field, parts of which are well into the decline phase.

In comparison, ONGC produces more than 5,50,000 barrels a day while Cairn India, which commenced production last week, will produce 1,75,000 barrels a day at its peak. OIL has ‘proved and probable’ reserves of 575 million barrels of oil, which will last 23 years at the current rate of production. The proven reserves alone will last 11 years at the current output level.

Besides this, OIL also has gas reserves of 63.41 billion cubic metres, more than 93 per cent of which is located in the Upper Assam Basin.

It produces 6.22 million cubic metres of gas a day, which was about 7 per cent of domestic gas output in 2008-09. In comparison, Reliance presently produces close to 40 million cubic metres of gas a day.

OIL has a small presence in Rajasthan where it produces about 0.56 million cubic metres of gas a day. It also owns reserves of heavy oil that it has yet to develop.

The company is also a 26 per cent shareholder in Numaligarh Refinery and holds 10 per cent in Brahmaputra Cracker and Polymer Ltd., which is planning to set up a petrochemical project in Assam.

Lagging in E&P

OIL has interests in 24 blocks that were acquired under various NELP (New Exploration Licensing Policy) rounds and it is the operator in 12 of them. The blocks where it holds majority interest are concentrated in the Upper Assam Basin and in Rajasthan.

Some of these date back to the first few rounds of NELP, which began in 1999. Yet, the activity is still in the initial stage of seismic studies in most of these blocks. In the last two years, it has managed to drill just 23 exploratory wells in all.

Despite this, the company has been regularly adding small discoveries to its reserves, mainly in the Assam region. A more aggressive pursuit of exploration is required if OIL is to scale up in terms of size.

The company has also acquired blocks for exploration abroad in consortium with partners such as Indian Oil, Reliance and GSPC.

What augurs well

Despite its only producing asset being a mature field, OIL has managed to grow its output in the last few years. In 2008-09, its production grew 11 per cent.

The company has effectively employed improved and enhanced oil recovery techniques to coax oil out of wells that are past their productive phase.

It may not have made big discoveries, but OIL has consistently managed to replace the oil that it produces every year through new, small discoveries. It boasts a reserve-replacement ratio of almost two thanks mainly to its conscious strategy of going in pursuit of small-sized reserves of up to 30 million barrels.

OIL is sitting on promising gas reserves in the Assam fields which it has been unable to monetise due to poor demand in the region.

A conscious attempt to link the region with the national grid will enable the company to exploit its gas reserves effectively.

The company discovered heavy oil in the Baghewala field in Rajasthan back in 1991 but it has not exploited the reserves due to technology constraints.

Pilot production has been started now and, hopefully, OIL, like Cairn, will be able to produce heavy oil from Rajasthan soon.

Adding a measure of comfort is the huge cash pile (Rs 6,568 crore) that the company is now sitting on. OIL is a zero-debt company and it can use the free cash and also leverage its equity to raise more funds to accelerate its exploration work.

The cash reserves could also come in handy if the company were to identify good acreages or discovered blocks for acquisition. Incidentally, the existing cash can comfortably cover the company’s exploration and production budget of Rs 4,560 crore for 2010 and 2011.

The risks

The biggest risk that OIL faces is government policy on sharing of subsidy on petroleum products. The company had paid a stiff price on this front in the last few years.

For instance, in 2007-08 and 2008-09, it provided discounts of $25.08 and $26.13 a barrel respectively. This was apart from the discount that it had to give on its LPG production.

The discount liability fell sharply in the first quarter of the current fiscal mainly because it has now been restricted to the subsidies provided on petrol and diesel only.

There is a risk that the government will revert to its old policy of sharing all subsidies, including on kerosene and LPG, with the upstream companies such as OIL bearing a third of the burden. This could have a significant impact on the earnings of OIL.

With almost all its productive assets, including the 1,157 km crude oil pipeline, located in Assam, there is a concentration risk because of the inherent political instability in the region.

The pipeline has been blasted by militants in the past severing a vital mode of reaching OIL’s crude to its buyers.

The company is viewed as not being an aggressive player on the E&P front. The large cash reserve that it has now parked in low-return government securities is proof of its inability to deploy funds for growth.

OIL will have to quickly find better uses in its business for the surplus cash that can be used to accelerate E&P activity in blocks outside Assam.

CoachIPO
402. RAKESH KAPOOR |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 7:04:22 AM
oil india ipo will open at950 and after listing would be available below rs 800 . one can make decision whether to buy from secondary market below 800 or to buy at 950 from primary market.
rakesh
401. raja |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 2:18:01 AM
dil k armaan aansuo main bah gay.....no return from adani & nhpc
400. TR |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 1:06:10 AM
It is good to see atleast retalers learnt some lesson for getting issue undesrubscribed in both retail and non instituition category.

If you see its shows subscription only from Govt own mutual fund which have been persuaded to buy even though they know they know it will list at discount
and also F11 which are the own lead managers which gets fixed amount from subscription like morgan stanley to get issue subscribed forcefully

Dont apply as this would be a flop show.rather buy something from secondary market.lot of stocks available in open market with good valuation.

This should not even be applied at 600 rs forget about asking price of 1050 rs
399. ravi |   Link |  Bookmark | September 9, 2009 12:05:03 AM
Plz dont apply for oil ipo. It is very expensive.
You wouldnt be able to make any money. Better to park money in a Fixed deposit.
398. Neil |   Link |  Bookmark | September 8, 2009 10:02:09 PM
hey i dont know why all brokerage housing a giving a buy call for this IPO. The internal information is that it is going to do very badly after NHPC & Adani. All the internal people all subscribing in the other categories to generate good response. Once done on last day they will withdraw their application
If all the broking houses were so confident then why the NHPC & Adani went the other way
397. CHETAK |   Link |  Bookmark | September 8, 2009 9:27:51 PM
IPO of OIL India Ltd. is Good. Do not miss it. Is it poor
responded IPO ? No. Do you know ASBA?
ASBA will change the picture at the end since ASBA applications are NOT TO UNDERGO BOOKBUILDING PROCESS.
Jago ane bharo nahi to rahi jasho bhai.....
Mafat salah chhe aa to.. lai lo bhai ...
396. anil kumar khunteta |   Link |  Bookmark | September 8, 2009 9:12:42 PM
flop show,wait for THE END,
395. Share Singh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 8, 2009 8:43:58 PM
Thanks Investors for not subscribing the OIL. This is the right way to teach a lesson to Govt. Next time Govt. will bring issues at right price for other PSUs.
394. hv |   Link |  Bookmark | September 8, 2009 8:43:56 PM
sikka uchlega to ek side hi giraga kaun si side vo kisikobhi nahi malum hota fir bhi jo trand ban raha he ki [under cutting ipo]shayad vahi ho shakata he
be careful dear friend!!!
393. Rajesh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 8, 2009 7:47:48 PM
hi friends 2day the grey market premium is 35 to 40 Rs & as u all know b4 closing the ipo of NHPC & Adani it was 10 & 15 but it got listed at discount so b careful b4 applying to this as if they give shares at lower band also & if the market gets correct (as right now the market is at top & i personally don't see chance of going up to 5000 in 1 month) then this will get listed at discount that is sure bcoz this is compared with ONGC & that will also come down with market. Then also if u r investing u r money the PLEASE BE CAREFUL & dont invest big money. NOW ITS UP 2 U TO Decide ( so I personally is not investing in this IPO & i have already blocked my money in NHPC & ADANI Power so i dont want 2 block any more money in this.)
392. Adarsha |   Link |  Bookmark | September 8, 2009 7:38:25 PM
No major subscription for the second day even after getting fully subscribed in first day....... guess why..... Its a trick played by Company ( GOVT!!!!) to attract(Fool) retail investors. Remember QIB's can withdraw their application any time they want to......

decide whether you are ready to pay 1050 for this forget about the subscription....

subscription figures do not have any effect on listing now a days......
391. jigar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 8, 2009 4:15:06 PM
apply at lower end of 950