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70. Anil g |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 7:22:35 PM
Hi SJ,

Thanks for all your support :)
69. Arunachalanadar ganesan |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 6:28:12 PM
Whether this Oberoi Realty ltd and BS telecom is worth to apply this month

When virgo engineers IPO will hit the market
68. IPOGARV |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 5:51:47 PM
Another Real Estate Player for raising the money.

There has been plenty of existing real estate players in market. and majoirty of them are quite discount from their peak levels in 2007-08. How this is different? Godrej Properties despite strong IPO with good management. I missed on past experience of real estate play.

This company player in Mumbai region quite visible. Demand Higher -Supply short.

Could someone put light on Management of Company?
67. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 5:30:58 PM
Oberoi Realty fixes IPO price band at Rs 253-260 per share

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/ipos/Oberoi-Realty-fixes-IPO-price-band-at-Rs-253-260-per-share/articleshow/6677248.cms
66. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 4:02:23 PM
oberoi reality ipo....
price band........253=260....source p.t.i. news
65. Nis |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 3:37:19 PM
Price Band 253-260

THX
64. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 3:02:45 PM (400+ Posts)
Anil G

You have to expand the chart in MC

You see on the top of price chart there option that says

Deatiled Technical Chart somrthing like that

Click it then you will get bigger full view price chart of your desired script

Then you will see on top of chart there are options 6 months 1 year 2 year

At the end of that there is Option called MAX

That means price chart for maximumm history

Then when you get that you will see the starting price at the starting of the chart left hand side

As you point your mouse pointer to the starting

On left hand side you will see changing dates and high low price on top........

So that way you will find listing price


There is nothing in this world...whoz info you cant get you just need more searching....lOl

Go and try that

If you dont get still

I will tell you

I would have told you in the meanwhile instead of typing such a long post

But i want you to do that on your own so that next time you dont require me and can do it on your own....!!

As the Chinese Proverb goes

Give a man a fishing rod he can fish. But teach him how to fish once and he will never ask you for a rope next time...." (this is my version of that chinese proverb,...;-)


Regards
63. Anil g |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 2:20:26 PM
HI SJ,

Can you please tell me when OMDC got listed? When I checked in MC its only showing data for last one year (only 2010) but it's not shoeing the date of listing and not shoeing any info about IPOP n all.

Thanks
62. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 2:14:28 PM
what is the price band of this ipo & kostak price and premium mujhe lagta hai yeh ek long term invesment acha hai yeh taj hotel wala group hai kya
61. Anil g |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 12:25:29 PM
Hi SJ,

Please tell me about Manapuran GOLD finance and Sundaram clayton.
I am already holding both the shares 200 shares each; and I want to but more shares. what you thing about the future of both the companies.

Thanks
60. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 11:02:12 AM (400+ Posts)
LOL.....!!


Saharanpurji Did Deepak parekh not tell you that India's Real estate market constitutes just 3% of its GDP

China's Real Estate Market is 30% of GDP

USA it's 45% of GDP...LOLLLLL..!!


DID DEEPAKH PAREKH tell you that HDFC is over bullish on affordable housing as well as luxury space more than 2009 crash in an interview to Lata Venketesh of CNBC TV 18


You tell me a simple answer why are real estate prices in Canought Place is so high

Can DEEPAK PArekh explain that....I am sure he can

That is demand and supply

Connuaght place has shortage of Space and demand for business space too high.

Now just because you may not want to buy costly Cannaught place space althugh you may have money for it

You will also not realise that by opening space in Cannought you will get 10 times more business than if you go to FARIDABAD OR GAZIABAD etc.


As far as FSI is concerned INDIABULLS REAL ESTATE IF YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE BOUGHT SOME KP MILLS OR SOMETHING AT 3 TIMES VALUE....

WHY....?

ARE THEY MAD...?

NO THEY ARE CLEVER....THEY KNWO REAL ESTATE IN MUMBAI WILL BE IN HEAVY SHORTAGE FROM CURRENT OVERSUPPLY TO HUGELY UNDERSUPLLY NEXT 5 YEARS


They also knwo they will get relaxed norms in their FSI so that they can make bigger buildings and earn more from same piece of costly land...and sell it at 4 times ACQUSITION costs of Land

Real Estate is a high margin business

Markets will be overvalued at 28000-30000

People like retail will keep on selling and when SENSEX CROSES 25000

THEY WILL START BUYING AND FIIS WILL SELL TO THEM

So once again retail missed rallly like fools

They are now selling like fools

And then they will panic and buy like fools at 25,000

Thats whay retail investors is callled retail coz they cannot become HNI investor....

They will remain retail throughout there life

Coz they are fools.....!!


ANyways lets wait for the pricing

As i said if not available with comfort in valuation for Oberoi

I will stick with INDIABULLS REAL ESTATE..Saharanpurji you can also buy

Even shreedhar told me he is holding I bulls and Unitech now...


The next two quarters are turnaround and excellent for real estate coz of solid comeback of demand and Exploding of EPS of real estate companies....

Regards
59. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 10:26:31 AM (200+ Posts)
DEEPAK PAREKH OF HDFC is very uncomfortable with extremely high prices in Mumbai.

To say 1.5 crore price for 1000 sq feet which mind you is not carpet area but super built up area ie actual area is around 700- 800 sq ft area is normal is MINDBOGGLING.How many of Mumbaikar can afford these prices is difficult to estimate.Volumes would not be there.

Applying for listing gain in Oberoi if valautions are correct is OK but a long term hold difficult to say.

FSI in Mumbai is useful tool for politicians n bureaucrates in GMMMC to play around with n build massive money.

Costliest real estate in the world.I am not comfortable n happy that I dont stay in Mumbai
58. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 9:39:54 AM
buy HAVELL INDIA IT MAY TOUCH 900 BEFORE EX BONUS 11 TH OCT
57. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 2:03:08 AM (400+ Posts)
Dear Saharanpurji at 54

LOL.....!!


Please define what do you mean by Cartel Of Mumbai developers..!!

Well it is pure demand supply and earning capacity of Mubaikars that is drawing more and more people to Mumbai...!!

It has nothing to do with Cartel...Shartel..!!....loll

Why do you think property price crashed in 2008 2009...?

Becasue there was oversupply..and demand dropped suddenly due to recession and Real estate developers who overleveraged overestimating demand took the hit and had to sell at record cheap prices to raise money to reduce debt.

But bear in mind that they had acquired lands many years ago even as late as 2001-2002.

So even if the property prices crash tommorow there land in Mumbai that they acquired long time ago will not be sold at a loss but huge gains ...even in a crash

Its the same thing naa

Like if you had bought unitech at 2-3 rupees in 2004 and then it went to 400 and came down to 22 in crash

Still you were sitting on 10 times return right..!!

Same is with Real Estate

Ill suggest you to start investing in debt free real estate companies in Mumbai.....like Indiabulls real estate


You know 1.5 crore for 1000 square feet today in Mumbai is not because of cartel. In fact still there is oversupply.

Why will real estate developers in Mumbai form a Cartel to jack up prices further when there exsisting inventory is not selling..?

Indian Real estate market is different from USA


In USA people bought real estate by mortgaging and they were in huge debts and had bad credit history in first place. hence property prices there tumbled as that property was bought with debt that is leverage.

In India people do not by property by taking loans. even if they do Banks do due diligence to give them loans and see wether they will able to pay loan in installments

Plus 30% is upfront rest 70% is financed by bank as you might be knowing

So people in India are not forced to sell their property when prices crash due to slowdown coz they do not take too much debt and have earning capacity to pay back loans.

So they will not sell their property in Crash and wait endlessly till they get their desired price even 10 years

HENCE TODAY PRICES AR BACK TO NORMAL FROM DEPRESSION LEVELS. DEMAND IS IMPROVING

So 1.5 crore for 1000 sq. ft. flat is not expensive considering demand and supply and Purchasing power of Mumbaikars


YES OBEROI REALITY IS GOOD. REAL ESTATE IS BACK IN VOUGE AND IS IN RECOVERY MODE

IF YOU EVER BEEN TO AMCHI MUMBAI OR WILL GO PLEASE SEE THE QUALITY OF THE MALL THEY BUILT CALLED OBEROI MALL. YOU WILL GET IDEA OF THEIR QUALITY


But there is no sense of Buying Good Company at bad price

So for now i will stick To Indiabulls Real Estate

ANd only after price band officaily announced can take decision to invest in a risky business like real estate at upcycle and highly bullish environment or not. Coz if there is no comfort in valuations compared to peers then it will be another NITESH ESTATES.


Regards




56. Anonymous |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2010 1:00:58 AM
47
Lower Price Band (Rs) : 100
Upper Price Band (Rs) : 120
39,562,000 Shares
Rs. 475 Crores

Issue Allocation
Institutional HNI Retail
23,737,200 3,956,200 11,868,600
Somwthing is wrong. please check it share and amount total
what is share for retail and total amount?
55. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | October 2, 2010 11:23:40 PM (200+ Posts)
the type of ipo deluge we had in last 10-12 days of september as un precedented.

now the ipo will come at a leisurely pace.

virgo engineers might be a good bet ofcourse on right pricing. cebbco does seems to be expensive lets wait for Raam BAAN
54. Sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 2, 2010 11:17:03 PM (900+ Posts)
Its not yet out
53. ABCLIKS |   Link |  Bookmark | October 2, 2010 11:15:24 PM
The kind of land bank they r having in Mumbai at prime locations, the NAV will certainly come more than 500Rs./share...!! Good IPO though i wont be able to subscribe for it.
52. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | October 2, 2010 11:11:28 PM (200+ Posts)
Is the price band out or only speculation going on.

personally speaking mumbai real estate is a cartel of corrupt builders ,politician n bureaucrats. India at its worst.

Imagine a decent size 1000 sq ft flat for not less than 2 cr in a decent locality.
51. Sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 2, 2010 11:10:42 PM (900+ Posts)
Lets see.Any more IPOs other than BS & Oberoi before the big one.